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Time Magazine: Hillary voters should threaten to not pay taxes.

The Time Mark Weston is free to not pay taxes. He should lead by example. :mrgreen:

Wonder how not paying would sit with the IRS. H. Clinton won the popular vote by what, 2 to 3%? Hillary supporters should spend their time and energy finding ways to work with the incoming Administration. The more articles I see like the OP link, the more I am dissatisfied with the supporters.

(by the way I am a Republican and I voted for Hillary). She lost the election based on how are system works. Get over it. Try to work together people.
 
Harshaw said:
Talk about not accepting elections:

65 Million Americans Should Threaten to Not Pay Taxes



And:



Notes: the Electoral College has always been the Constitutional system, so America wouldn't be "resuming" anything if it were changed, and the President is not a "representative" of the people. That's what the House of Representatives is for.
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It is surprising how badly so many take it that Clinton managed to lose.
 
Harshaw said:
Talk about not accepting elections:

65 Million Americans Should Threaten to Not Pay Taxes



And:



Notes: the Electoral College has always been the Constitutional system, so America wouldn't be "resuming" anything if it were changed, and the President is not a "representative" of the people. That's what the House of Representatives is for.
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Loser nation :usflag2:

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mike2810 said:
The Time Mark Weston is free to not pay taxes. He should lead by example. :mrgreen:

Wonder how not paying would sit with the IRS. H. Clinton won the popular vote by what, 2 to 3%? Hillary supporters should spend their time and energy finding ways to work with the incoming Administration. The more articles I see like the OP link, the more I am dissatisfied with the supporters.

(by the way I am a Republican and I voted for Hillary). She lost the election based on how are system works. Get over it. Try to work together people.
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Despite what he seems to think, if all this actually happened, it would, in fact, be a criminal conspiracy, and he'd be liable.
 
Harshaw said:
Well, "Person of the Year" never meant "Coolest Dude of the Year." It meant the person most significant to events (however they determined it).

But in any case, Time isn't some crank blog, so this piece can't be dismissed as such.
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That's true, it's not crank blog, but then, as much of the other biased, ideologically bent media, I think cognitive dissonance, heck in some cases outright denial, is in fact present.
 
Praxas said:
It is still an opinion piece. I know you want to all of a sudden "elevate it" since it goes with your line of thought that the left are all whackos, but it is still an opinion piece not representative of the majority.

Do you really believe 65 million aren't going to pay their taxes?
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I wonder what percentage didn't pay taxes before Trump's win?
 
Well, I certainly agree that there is a debate worthy of having regarding taxation without representation. Common sense tells us all that it is fundamentally flawed when the majority of the populous is subjected by the minority. But that's another talk show.

If the democrats don't pay their taxes how we gonna continue to subsidize or support many of their members? :confused:
 
Harshaw said:
Talk about not accepting elections:

65 Million Americans Should Threaten to Not Pay Taxes

And:

Notes: the Electoral College has always been the Constitutional system, so America wouldn't be "resuming" anything if it were changed, and the President is not a "representative" of the people. That's what the House of Representatives is for.
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That's about the worst article I've read in quite some time. It tells you how far Time has fallen that they'd publish that kind of drivel. My favorite part was this:

The beauty of a no-taxation pledge is that it almost certainly won’t have to be carried out. The mere threat could be enough to propel a Constitutional amendment. If millions sign now, Republicans will know that a third modern Republican runner-up presidency is impossible; Democrats will not be cooperative again.
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Pure comedy gold. That's dumb enough to qualify as an example of Poe's Law in action, at a major publication.
 
JasperL said:
That's about the worst article I've read in quite some time. It tells you how far Time has fallen that they'd publish that kind of drivel. My favorite part was this:



Pure comedy gold. That's dumb enough to qualify as an example of Poe's Law in action, at a major publication.
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It's a commentary piece by an author. Time routinely publishes commentary from outside sources.
 
Harshaw said:
Talk about not accepting elections:

65 Million Americans Should Threaten to Not Pay Taxes



And:



Notes: the Electoral College has always been the Constitutional system, so America wouldn't be "resuming" anything if it were changed, and the President is not a "representative" of the people. That's what the House of Representatives is for.
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I would support their freedom to refuse to pay taxes. I would also support their subsequent arrest for tax evasion.
 
Kobie said:
It's a commentary piece by an author. Time routinely publishes commentary from outside sources.
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Yeah, I guess, but as much as I don't like the fact Trump won, the idea that it's a realistic threat to pay our taxes to some offshore escrow account is, to put it kindly, dumb as hell. It's just slightly less ridiculous to assume that a petition that merely threatens to do something stupid like that is what will force a change to the Constitution.

My second favorite part is this:

The pledge is not just a powerful protest; it is also effortless, requiring no legal or financial sacrifice at all for years, possibly decades.
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I'm sorry, but people who argue action that is 'effortless' and requires no sacrifice but to sit at your desk and put your name on a petition are idiots, and if anyone listens to them, any cause that person cares about is in deep f'ing crap because they're about to get their asses handed to them again and again by people who are actually willing to work for stuff they care about.

Plus it doesn't help much that I'm not at all sympathetic to the argument Trump didn't legitimately win because he lost the popular vote. He won the game as it was played and according to that game's rules. Saying he lost some OTHER game under a different set of rules is just after the fact whining and it does a disservice to everyone, and especially unhappy democrats, to focus on it. What the party and voters who didn't vote for Trump need to focus on like a laser is how to win under the EC rules, which means flipping Trump states back to democrats.

But obviously they can publish what they want - it's just my opinion that piece is terrible, and if the advice is followed, destructive to the aims the writer intends to advance.
 
Cool, then we shouldn't pay a penny of welfare or public assistance to anyone on the left.
 
Cephus said:
Cool, then we shouldn't pay a penny of welfare or public assistance to anyone on the left.
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LOL, that is sort of an obvious and potential downside of withholding taxes with the GOP in power. Not to mention that the IRS would levy punitive fines, then seize your bank accounts and/or paycheck, quickly padlock (literally) businesses that failed to make their payroll tax deposits, select some high profile individuals to charge with criminal tax evasion and send to prison, and more. But other than that, paying federal taxes to an offshore account is a fine idea. :roll:

In fact, I nominate the author as our volunteer to do a test run right now, in protest of this election. He can start with his 2017 taxes - pay his quarterly estimates to Bermuda, and then we can follow along on a blog as he starts getting assessments, then notices of intent to levy, then the levy notices, then the seizures, then the IRS CID investigation then trial and jail. Should be fun.
 
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Cephus said:
Cool, then we shouldn't pay a penny of welfare or public assistance to anyone on the left.
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OR...... to the fat cat energy industry, farm subsidies, foreign aid and all that other Republican style of welfare.

Not sure any party has the high ground when it comes to giving our tax dollars away.
 
Captain America said:
OR...... to the fat cat energy industry, farm subsidies, foreign aid and all that other Republican style of welfare.

Not sure any party has the high ground when it comes to giving our tax dollars away.
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I don't think anyone should get anything if they violate established law, that goes for individuals and businesses.
 
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