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Make America Great Again. Deffine when America was great and why.

Militant_Vegan_ said:
according to your logic, the Jewish Holocaust didn't occur because some Jews escaped the death camps.

We stole land from Indians and nearly killed them all.

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No, the Germans were, indeed, systematically trying to destroy an entire people. We were the ONES that came in and rescued the Jewish peoples from the concentration camps, for god's sake.

Genocide was never the plan in the US. In fact we established special areas for our Indians, of their own domain, where they were, and are still, sovereign. Was it all peaches and cream, hardly, but it was not genocide. The Indians had, at the same time, a warrior culture, the two cultures, while it was many times attempted, could not seem to coexist. In situations like that in history, where wrongs were perpetrated on one another from both sides, wars have been fought and the dominant culture wins. History, know your history and then analyze it properly. We fought with Indians, they fought us, we had wars and peaces, just like every other history in the world where there were natives and others migrated in. As stated earlier, Indians were fighting with other Indians when Europeans arrived on the scene. Depending on the tribe and the war, some Indians fought with us and others against us.

I know this means nothing to you, you will just forget it and go on, but some folks actually understand a bit of history here, its those to who I speak... I already know its wasted on some.

By the way, when are you giving your part back to the Indians... plans on moving back to Europe, do you? I mean, if you feel so deeply about it, you have little choice, right? Or are you not only unaware of planetary history, but a hypocrite as well?
 
year2late said:
Perhaps this was asked before, if so, I apologize.

When was America great in the past and why.
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I look back to the 70's and 80's when manufacturing was about 30% of the economy and a guy could quit his job at the tool shop and get another one the same day. Back then, a good blue collar job, with overtime, paid about as much or more than management jobs. You know, back when CEO's made about 10X more than their employees intead of 1000X more.

In other words, not something I expect Trump will bring back. :)
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
not fighting battles is a good thing in the real world. Look at Iceland's economy, education and quality of life. it eclipses ours. You should be embarrassed you even have to ask.
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They have less than 350 thousand people on the entire island that, if it had something similar to a heart rate monitor of world achievement, it would be flat lining right now.

Also, If it didn't get help from us with the Marshall Plan after WW2 and after which their prosperity increased [ another great, among many many others just with this one plan, achievement by the US], if we didn't protect their freedoms, as well as the rest of the world's, for them they would no doubt have been occupied by one of the truly evil nations desiring world empire by now. While its nice to have no standing army, its even nicer that we have ours to stand in for them.

How great are we, huh? ;)

Not taking anything away from them, besides it being too damned cold much of the time, I am sure its a sweet little place for some few... however, not great by ANY standard. By the way, how many black presidents have they elected, what are their minority Indian, or Black or Hispanic or Asian populations? Wouldn't you characterize them as racist then... or what? Its silly, but its what your side does, so right back at-cha.

El KaBoooooong.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
They have less than 350 thousand people on the entire island that, if it had something similar to a heart rate monitor of world achievement, it would be flat lining right now.

Also, If it didn't get help from us with the Marshall Plan after WW2 and after which their prosperity increased [ another great, among many many others just with this one plan, achievement by the US], if we didn't protect their freedoms, as well as the rest of the world's, for them they would no doubt have been occupied by one of the truly evil nations desiring world empire by now. While its nice to have no standing army, its even nicer that we have ours to stand in for them.

How great are we, huh? ;)

Not taking anything away from them, besides it being too damned cold much of the time, I am sure its a sweet little place for some few... however, not great by ANY standard. By the way, how many black presidents have they elected, what are their minority Indian, or Black or Hispanic or Asian populations? Wouldn't you characterize them as racist then... or what? Its silly, but its what your side does, so right back at-cha.

El KaBoooooong.
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To wit:

Iceland, which doesn't have its own army, spends just 0.1% of its GDP on defense, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.
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Which NATO members are falling short on military spending? - Apr. 15, 2016
 
calamity said:
I look back to the 70's and 80's when manufacturing was about 30% of the economy and a guy could quit his job at the tool shop and get another one the same day. Back then, a good blue collar job, with overtime, paid about as much or more than management jobs. You know, back when CEO's made about 10X more than their employees intead of 1000X more.

In other words, not something I expect Trump will bring back. :)
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Wish he would....at least that atmosphere.
 
America was Great 1929-1938. Before income tax.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
1945-1965 was the last time.
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Which, incidentally, happens to be the two decades after WWII.

European infrastructure was ravaged. Russia and China took a beating.

We lost a lot of young men, but the rest of the world powers lost a lot more. Our infrastructure was not damaged and in fact, our manufacturing capabilities were on steroids owing to the war effort.



Same deal for WWI.



In other words, the thing that made America "great" had nothing to do with policy, morals, ethics, or any other some such factor. What made America "great" was that WWI and WWII happened on somebody else's soil.
 
d0gbreath said:
America was Great 1929-1938. Before income tax.
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Great as in the Great Depression, maybe. But I don't think that's the sense of the word "great" the OP inquires about.

:doh
 
Casper said:
I was around before 1968, silly. I am not claiming to be their spokesman, but the many people that fought in the civil rights marches for equality, and the Latinos that fought for equal pay, the gays and lesbians wanting to live their lives as who they are, not to mention women who fought for equal rights and pay would have more of say than me, they on the most part would not want to go back to the world you want, ask them yourself.
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SO.... you got nothing..... LOL
 
Mr Person said:
Which, incidentally, happens to be the two decades after WWII.

European infrastructure was ravaged. Russia and China took a beating.
We lost a lot of young men, but the rest of the world powers lost a lot more. Our infrastructure was not damaged and in fact, our manufacturing capabilities were on steroids owing to the war effort.
Same deal for WWI.



In other words, the thing that made America "great" had nothing to do with policy, morals, ethics, or any other some such factor. What made America "great" was that WWI and WWII happened on somebody else's soil.
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I'll tell you what DIDN'T make America great...people who detest the nation and it's freedoms and berate those who seized opportunity while they instead followed the lemmings and tried to find comfort in mediocrity or a government handout. If I fail, I have only myself to blame...likewise for success to a large degree...even though Obamanites will tell you you "didn't build that".

America is not unique in wrongs that have occurred to others. History is FULL of nations and states dating back to the beginnings of human history. Calling America uniquely faulty is indeed faulty thinking.

There are a lot of people who find America "less than Great". I often wonder what keeps them so "faithfully, desperately" glued here. :thinking

So essentially, America was Great, until a bunch of losers were allowed to set up shop under false pretenses of Constitutional protections.
 
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Casper said:
I was around before 1968, silly. I am not claiming to be their spokesman, but the many people that fought in the civil rights marches for equality, and the Latinos that fought for equal pay, the gays and lesbians wanting to live their lives as who they are, not to mention women who fought for equal rights and pay would have more of say than me, they on the most part would not want to go back to the world you want, ask them yourself.
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I thought you were going to say people sent of to war In Vietnam by force.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Sure, they couldn't apply to jobs they wanted, couldn't buy houses anywhere they wished. Couldnt sit anywhere on a bus or in a restaurant. Couldn't attend any school, but yeah they knew their place, right? All you're doing is basking in the nostalgia of your youth dude.
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Are you trying to tell us that Jim Crow laws were the law all over the country.

Please tell us you don't believe that.
 
America was once great because life span kept increasing. We now know that liberalism is a system that destroys. ///////////(CNN)For the first time since 1993, life expectancy in the United States has dropped significantly for the entire population, not just certain groups.
 
Liberalism has brought Americans life span to start dropping for the first time and compare that to conservative China doing the opposite. “Between 1990 and 2010, life expectancy at birth in China increased from 69.3 years to 75.7 years.
 
I suppose when people thoughtlessly plead for this, they are thinking of the "great" 99.5% of the country's history when lgbt for instance had no rights to speak of

Or the 77% of its history when black people had no rights

Or the 58% when women couldn't vote

Maybe when Natives were getting slaughtered?

Sometime in there i bet
 
America was great when people valued personal responsibility and freedom. I'll go with the poster who liked 1945 to 1965.
 
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