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Stein: We want recounts because the polls said Hillary would win

poweRob said:
Republicans like to brag about how overrepresented they are all the time. They like that county by county map showing all those blood red counites that are 100 square miles with three people living in it.
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I hear all of Joshua Tree National Forest voted for Trump.

So did Yosemite.

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Re: ****ing hypocrite

poweRob said:
Riiiiight. Funny watching you say this at this point in time when AAAAALLLLLL these never trumpettes are lining up to kiss Trump's ring now that he got the seat.

What was Ted Cruz & even Romney doing under Trumps desk after he called trump a con-man and a fraud? :lol:
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I suspect Cruz was auditioning for a Supreme Court nomination. A lifetime appointment. Pretty savvy to go in and have a sit-down.

Do you recall the 2008 election? B-rock and MO BOTH called Hillary a liar and said she couldn't be trusted. MO took it to the house by calling her out for not being able to take care of biz in her own home. Sure enough...election was settled and Hilz became sec of state. You KNOW this stuff happens...right?


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Sietske22 said:
Land doesn't get a right to vote.

California is a state of our union.

I've never seen such sore winners in my entire life.
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Seriously? This thread is about a RECOUNT called by two complete losers. You want Win? Take the H out of Whining.


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VanceMack said:
Seriously? This thread is about a RECOUNT called by two complete losers. You want Win? Take the H out of Whining.


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trump has implied there is extreme fraud and illegality in our election process.

Logic dictates the first thing to do is have a comprehensive recount of the vote, see how that compares to the initial count, and decide what steps are required next.

Ranting about millions of illegal votes but condemning a recount, is total hypocrisy and counter intuitive.

AKA Trump
 
Sietske22 said:
Land doesn't get a right to vote.

California is a state of our union.

I've never seen such sore winners in my entire life.
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The arrogant certainty that the lying bitch would win combined with the sore loserman lamentations of these same Hillary fluffers after the election perhaps has caused some of us who voted for Trump to be less than humble after watching the Bad Ship Hillary hit the Trumpberg and sink with all hands on board
 
Sietske22 said:
trump has implied there is extreme fraud and illegality in our election process.

Logic dictates the first thing to do is have a comprehensive recount of the vote, see how that compares to the initial count, and decide what steps are required next.

Ranting about millions of illegal votes but condemning a recount, is total hypocrisy and counter intuitive.

AKA Trump
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What do you call it when you first claim that challenging election results is hoorifying...then you join in the effort to challenge the election results?

Hey...Im with you. Since the recounts are happening...great. let it rain. Trump will be the next president and when he does I think he should appoint a commission and check every vote and voter role from coast go coast and anyone found to have voted illegally should be arrested tried and sent to prison.

Should solve all the problems...right?
 
TurtleDude said:
The arrogant certainty that the lying bitch would win combined with the sore loserman lamentations of these same Hillary fluffers after the election perhaps has caused some of us who voted for Trump to be less than humble after watching the Bad Ship Hillary hit the Trumpberg and sink with all hands on board
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That's a fine excuse.

You won. Be happy about it.

Fantasies about disregarding the votes of California and talking about how trump won the majority of America's landmass, is laughable beyond belief.

You know what it is? Its extreme insecurity in trump's win. Why is that? Why are you guys not confident about trump's win? Something you're not letting on?
 
VanceMack said:
What do you call it when you first claim that challenging election results is hoorifying...then you join in the effort to challenge the election results?

Hey...Im with you. Since the recounts are happening...great. let it rain. Trump will be the next president and when he does I think he should appoint a commission and check every vote and voter role from coast go coast and anyone found to have voted illegally should be arrested tried and sent to prison.

Should solve all the problems...right?
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trump didn't say he would consider a recount if the vote was very close. He said he would only accept the results if he won.

Only after a few days of criticism by folks on both side of the spectrum did trump say he means that if the vote was close, as it was in 2000, would he consider not conceding right away and would want a recount.

Trump is a victim of his own mindless statements and his infliction with a horrible lack of eloquence and sophistication.
 
Sietske22 said:
That's a fine excuse.

You won. Be happy about it.

Fantasies about disregarding the votes of California and talking about how trump won the majority of America's landmass, is laughable beyond belief.

You know what it is? Its extreme insecurity in trump's win. Why is that? Why are you guys not confident about trump's win? Something you're not letting on?
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I used to play squash professionally. I also was collegiate doubles champion in table tennis. When I went into a match I knew in squash and table tennis, that I had to win three games. My style of play was what is called a shotmaker. and in many cases, it took me a game or a game in a half to get my shots to fall. So I often lost the first game pretty badly as I missed. and often the second game was close but in many cases, I would win the match despite losing more points but I never ever heard anyone-on the squash tour or the table tennis circuit say they deserved the win because they won more points.

because we all knew what the rules were.

and Trump and the lying bitch both knew what the rules were. So Trump didn't waste any time campaigning or running ads in expensive blue state markets like DC or San Francisco. And Hillary wasn't running ads or appearing in places like Texas or Wyoming, Kentucky or Indiana.

so ypou all braying about the Popular vote is really pretty stupid
 
TurtleDude said:
I used to play squash professionally. I also was collegiate doubles champion in table tennis. When I went into a match I knew in squash and table tennis, that I had to win three games. My style of play was what is called a shotmaker. and in many cases, it took me a game or a game in a half to get my shots to fall. So I often lost the first game pretty badly as I missed. and often the second game was close but in many cases, I would win the match despite losing more points but I never ever heard anyone-on the squash tour or the table tennis circuit say they deserved the win because they won more points.

because we all knew what the rules were.

and Trump and the lying bitch both knew what the rules were. So Trump didn't waste any time campaigning or running ads in expensive blue state markets like DC or San Francisco. And Hillary wasn't running ads or appearing in places like Texas or Wyoming, Kentucky or Indiana.

so ypou all braying about the Popular vote is really pretty stupid
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You all braying about ignoring the votes of California or talking about how much land mass trump won, suggests extreme insecurity with his win.

What's that about? Why so unconfident about his win?

Nevermind the fact that a comprehensive recount is the logical step you take when extreme fraud and illegal activity are alleged in an election. trump would be demanding it if he lost in a close race.
 
Re: ****ing hypocrite

VanceMack said:
I suspect Cruz was auditioning for a Supreme Court nomination. A lifetime appointment. Pretty savvy to go in and have a sit-down.

Do you recall the 2008 election? B-rock and MO BOTH called Hillary a liar and said she couldn't be trusted. MO took it to the house by calling her out for not being able to take care of biz in her own home. Sure enough...election was settled and Hilz became sec of state. You KNOW this stuff happens...right?


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Yes. Tell that to who I was quoting when I said that.
 
Sietske22 said:
You all braying about ignoring the votes of California or talking about how much land mass trump won, suggests extreme insecurity with his win.

What's that about? Why so unconfident about his win?

Nevermind the fact that a comprehensive recount is the logical step you take when extreme fraud and illegal activity are alleged in an election. trump would be demanding it if he lost in a close race.
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you have confused me for someone else. I completely ignore the popular vote braying or the significance of a nuts and fruitcake state like California that is full of people who are always going to vote Democrat including lots of Mexican-Americans who think that California actually belongs to Mexico. California's slide into a third world state is hilarious but it really isn't relevant to most of us in the rest of America
 
Deuce said:
You will have to elaborate on why "land area" is a metric for elections, yes.
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Because it represents a greater diversities of interests and political thought, hence every state recieve said two senators irrespective of population and the electoral college
 
NIMBY said:
naderite stein does not want to become another 2000 footnote in history--too late.

stein had 50,000 votes in MI, trump won MI by 11,000.

stein had 30,000 votes in WI, trump won WI by 22,000.

stein had 64,000 votes in FL, trump won FL by 119,000.

stein had 48,000 votes in PA, trump won PA by 68,000.

stein's scathing criticism of Clinton caused a multiple effect on the typical DEM coalition voter.

Some non-trump/non-Clinton typical DEM votes went to a fifth candidate, some went to Johnson, many stayed home, many Sanders voters did not vote Clinton based on stein's criticism.

Staying home was clearest in WI, where Sanders won the primary--as he did in MI.

Finegold led the polls and Bernie's folks loved him. In the end, Johnson won WI by 3.4%, trump by 0.8%.

Sanders people stayed home--reminds me of the disastrous 2010 and 2014 mid-terms--when minorities also stayed home.

The R/D results in swing states are just as bad when you look at the House and state legislatures.

I should add that incumbent GOP Senators in IA, FL, OH, PA, WI all won by more than trump did--reverse coattails--all states that flipped for trump .
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She's not a Nader though, because even if 100 percent of her vote total in those states went to Hillary, Trump still takes Florida and Pennsyvania winning the election. Michigan and Wisconsin are gravy, PA was the biscuit
 
Sietske22 said:
trump didn't say he would consider a recount if the vote was very close. He said he would only accept the results if he won.

Only after a few days of criticism by folks on both side of the spectrum did trump say he means that if the vote was close, as it was in 2000, would he consider not conceding right away and would want a recount.

Trump is a victim of his own mindless statements and his infliction with a horrible lack of eloquence and sophistication.
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Actually...what he said was that he would consider it after the vote happened.

So...you are one of those people that will willfully adopt someone elses immoral behavior when they arent using it?
 
VanceMack said:
Actually...what he said was that he would consider it after the vote happened.

So...you are one of those people that will willfully adopt someone elses immoral behavior when they arent using it?
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Recounts after a very close race, are moral, logical and common sense.
 
Sietske22 said:
Recounts after a very close race, are moral, logical and common sense.
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So, thats a snappy tap dance number you did there, but it doesnt change the facts.


 
Sietske22 said:
You all braying about ignoring the votes of California or talking about how much land mass trump won, suggests extreme insecurity with his win.

What's that about? Why so unconfident about his win?

Nevermind the fact that a comprehensive recount is the logical step you take when extreme fraud and illegal activity are alleged in an election. trump would be demanding it if he lost in a close race.
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So in your mind allegations are all that is needed for a comprehensive recount. Even when those people making those allegations admit that they have zero evidence of the fraud they are claiming. Interesting.
 
braindrain said:
So in your mind allegations are all that is needed for a comprehensive recount. Even when those people making those allegations admit that they have zero evidence of the fraud they are claiming. Interesting.
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Waiting for you to condemn the recount efforts in North Carolina, where the GOP Governor lost the race to a Democrat, his loss keeps increasing, yet he refuses to concede and has alleged massive fraud. No evidence provided for his claims.
 
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