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Trump: "Conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman"

Casper said:
ACTUALLY, it started before Obama and Hillary, let's not leave out Dubya, they all own guilt. Yes, trump has rattled that saber more than once and he has not even been sworn in. Did you miss what the right thinks the Donald is going to do concerning Iran and ISIS, nukes and carpet bombing, me thinks we do Not have a President that will be shy to use the military as he sees fit.
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Weird. All the news I've been seeing is people seemingly freaking out because they are scared Trump won't jump into some theoretical future conflict.
 
Fishking said:
Weird. All the news I've been seeing is people seemingly freaking out because they are scared Trump won't jump into some theoretical future conflict.
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His Neo-Con masters will be pushing him to destroy Iran.
 
Sietske22 said:
Pelosi is a Nazi, but trump talks about banning all Muslims, stripping Americans of their citizenship of they burn a US flag, stealing Iraq's oil, and nominates white supremacist bigots to his cabinet?

Oh the hypocrisy is thick.
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Oh the hyperbole is thick....
 
Fishking said:
Weird. All the news I've been seeing is people seemingly freaking out because they are scared Trump won't jump into some theoretical future conflict.
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Strange I have seen none of that, I go by what trump has said and what his people say he is going to do. Maybe I should watch more media?
 
Sietske22 said:
His Neo-Con masters will be pushing him to destroy Iran.
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Agreed. I just hope that this is one area where he does the Trump thing and ignores everyone else.
 
Casper said:
Strange I have seen none of that, I go by what trump has said and what his people say he is going to do. Maybe I should watch more media?
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Maybe? I dunno. I know everyone freaked out when he said some negative stuff about NATO and cowered in fear from the big bad Russian bear.
 
Fishking said:
Maybe? I dunno. I know everyone freaked out when he said some negative stuff about NATO and cowered in fear from the big bad Russian bear.
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Ummm, you just supported us getting into another war, and hence proved what I was getting at. Think that is a wrap.
 
Casper said:
Ummm, you just supported us getting into another war, and hence proved what I was getting at. Think that is a wrap.
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Huh? Nope. That's the opposite of getting into another war. That's staying out of it. Not sure what you're reading.
 
Fledermaus said:
A pathetic thing to say about someone who volunteered to stay a prisoner of war even after he was offered freedom.
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Yes, often when the truth is mentioned some see it as threatening or 'pathetic'. I didn't do the wet start on the Forrestal, he did.
 
Fishking said:
Huh? Nope. That's the opposite of getting into another war. That's staying out of it. Not sure what you're reading.
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My bad, I misread post #58. Apology offered.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Yes, often when the truth is mentioned some see it as threatening or 'pathetic'. I didn't do the wet start on the Forrestal, he did.
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What truth have you presented?

And WTF?

A wet start somehow negates his actions as a POW?

I worked on A-4s much of my Marine service. Wet starts happened. It was nothing that negates what a man does in his career.

Ask a real pilot. Preferably one that served.
 
Fledermaus said:
What truth have you presented?

And WTF?

A wet start somehow negates his actions as a POW?

I worked on A-4s much of my Marine service. Wet starts happened. It was nothing that negates what a man does in his career.

Ask a real pilot. Preferably one that served.
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There are several on record who were also in the Hanoi Hilton when McCain was, and they say he cooperated. A few years back, one of them was some kind of retired cop in Arizona somewhere.

On the wet start, his actions caused the biggest carrier fire since WWII, and he got off with a reprimand because his daddy was an admiral. He is no hero in my book, but you are certainly entitled to your adulation.
 
Thoreau72 said:
There are several on record who were also in the Hanoi Hilton when McCain was, and they say he cooperated. A few years back, one of them was some kind of retired cop in Arizona somewhere.

On the wet start, his actions caused the biggest carrier fire since WWII, and he got off with a reprimand because his daddy was an admiral. He is no hero in my book, but you are certainly entitled to your adulation.
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As to the accusation of collusion, CITATION?

As to the wet start....

Ummmmm

No.

An aircraft BEHIND McCain's fired a rocket.

My God. You don't know the details?

It was required reading for most military pilots and ordnance ground crew.
 
Fledermaus said:
As to the accusation of collusion, CITATION?

As to the wet start....

Ummmmm

No.

An aircraft BEHIND McCain's fired a rocket.

My God. You don't know the details?

It was required reading for most military pilots and ordnance ground crew.
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It fired the rocket after McCain's wet start. Yes, I know the details, and I know how RHIP. Rank and nepotism.
 
Thoreau72 said:
It fired the rocket after McCain's wet start. Yes, I know the details, and I know how RHIP. Rank and nepotism.
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No, you don't know the details.

I just double checked. McCain's aircraft exhaust WAS NOT pointed at the F4 that launched the 5inch rocket.

As usual, you are making "stuff" up.

Why don't you spend a couple of minutes fact checking?

It would save you much embarrassment.
 
Fledermaus said:
No, you don't know the details.

I just double checked. McCain's aircraft exhaust WAS NOT pointed at the F4 that launched the 5inch rocket.

As usual, you are making "stuff" up.

Why don't you spend a couple of minutes fact checking?

It would save you much embarrassment.
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I am embarrassed only for you Maus. Happy Holidays!
 
Sietske22 said:
His Neo-Con masters will be pushing him to destroy Iran.
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Fishking said:
Agreed. I just hope that this is one area where he does the Trump thing and ignores everyone else.
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1. WHO are Trump's "Neocon Masters"?
2. It's Trump himself who demonizes Iran -and the deal with it - more than anyone.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I am embarrassed only for you Maus. Happy Holidays!
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You should have stopped at embarrassed.

Have you looked into the USS Forrestal fire yet?

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CLUE: McCain's aircraft is 416. How did his supposed "wet start" have any effect on the F-4B #110?

At about 10:50 (local time) on 29 July, while preparing for the second strike of the day, an unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in an LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on an F-4B Phantom II (believed to be aircraft No. 110 from VF-11[1]), accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external to internal power. The surge, and a missing rocket safety pin, which would have prevented the fail surge, as well as a decision to plug in the "pigtail" system early to increase the number of takeoffs from the carrier, allowed the rocket to launch.
 
mbig said:
Sietske22 said:
His Neo-Con masters will be pushing him to destroy Iran.
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Fishking said:
Agreed. I just hope that this is one area where he does the Trump thing and ignores everyone else.
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1. WHO are Trump's "Neocon Masters"?
2. It's Trump himself who demonizes Iran -and the deal with it - more than anyone.
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You guys were Funny, and of course had No answers for your BS allegations.
Now this re "Mad Dog" Mattis:

Trump's breezy calls to leaders stun diplomats | Mattis appointment signals wartime posture - MarketWatch

[..]What Mattis means: Trump’s decision to name retired Gen. James Mattis to head the Pentagon is a strong signal that the president-elect wants a wartime leader at the Defense Department and not someone to just manage budgets, writes USA Today. If confirmed by the Senate, Mattis would be a departure from previous defense secretaries who have come from the ranks of civilian government or politics. The current defense secretary, Ash Carter, is a physicist who rose through the ranks of the department.[..]​


Right, his "neo-con Masters"!
 
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