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Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?[W:314]

Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

radcen said:
It's only been "proven" to those sycophants who so desperately need it to be true. Spinning it often and loud doesn't make it so.
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So disprove the facts presented in this thread. :shrug:
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
So disprove the facts presented in this thread. :shrug:
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One cannot disprove something to a closed mind.

Besides, "proof" re conclusion is literally impossible anyway. That is 100% subjective. Your continued need for "proof" simply demonstrates your irrational and dishonest conclusion. You can't support it, you (probably) know it, so you throw up a bar that you (probably) know is impossible for others to meet. That's dishonest. Just as you (probably) know that it is literally impossible for you to "prove" your assertions, as well, regardless the spin that you so desperately cling to.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

haymarket said:
Your first so called FACT is false on its face as Trump was trying to make those first two people look as stupid as he could and what better way to make them appear retarded or disabled - which to Trump is some sort of badge of disgrace?

Your second so called FACT do resemble the reporters disability enough to trigger the connection in millions of people who saw them. But again - should they believe their lying eyes or should they believe you?

Your third so called FACT does NOT absolve Trump from anything and I have no idea what you mean by its inclusion as all it does is condemn Trump and admit his connection to the same reporter.
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So you counter his fact with speculation and assumption, and due to your ego decide your speculation and assumption are greater and thus you treat them as facts.

About normal
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

radcen said:
One cannot disprove something to a closed mind.

Besides, "proof" re conclusion is literally impossible anyway. That is 100% subjective. Your continued need for "proof" simply demonstrates your irrational and dishonest conclusion. You can't support it, you (probably) know it, so you throw up a bar that you (probably) know is impossible for others to meet. That's dishonest. Just as you (probably) know that it is literally impossible for you to "prove" your assertions, as well, regardless the spin that you so desperately cling to.
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Facts can be and are proven all the time. Nothing I have stated here is speculation. And those that do not provide proof are often the ones that are being irrational and dishonest. Why? Because they base their case purely on speculation. Sorry but speculation does not work in the scientific community or in our courts of law. They might for you. But they don't for me.

And I and others HAVE supported every claim made here. With video and documented proof. You can ignore that proof all that you want. It won't change them. But it does reveal something about your stance.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
Facts can be and are proven all the time. Nothing I have stated here is speculation. And those that do not provide proof are often the ones that are being irrational and dishonest. Why? Because they base their case purely on speculation. Sorry but speculation does not work in the scientific community or in our courts of law. They might for you. But they don't for me.

And I and others HAVE supported every claim made here. With video and documented proof. You can ignore that proof all that you want. It won't change them. But it does reveal something about your stance.
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Of course not. You wouldn't allow yourself to be swayed by anything that contradicts your desired conclusion. I know it, and I bet that deep down you know it, but will never ever admit it publicly.

Shoot, you can't even grasp that another person's frame of mind (Trump's) is not something that can be measured by 'science', yet here you are flailing about in a debate trying to make that go. And we won't even touch on the difference between evidence and proof, which you are also conveniently ignoring.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

radcen said:
Of course not. You wouldn't allow yourself to be swayed by anything that contradicts your desired conclusion. I know it, and I bet that deep down you know it, but will never ever admit it publicly.

Shoot, you can't even grasp that another person's frame of mind (Trump's) is not something that can be measured by 'science', yet here you are flailing about in a debate trying to make that go. And we won't even touch on the difference between evidence and proof, which you are also conveniently ignoring.
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1: Not measuring Trumps mind. :shrug:

2: And yet you have yet to dispute anything that has been said. All that you've done is attack the poster.

Rest of your post isn't worth responding to.
 
MaggieD said:


Trump supporters may be interested. Those who don't support him won't believe it anyway.
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Of course not. This was a demonstration of his technique.


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See, you confuse the hell out of the woman with such a display. If she starts to feel sorry for you or try to support you in case you fall over, that's when you grab the *****.

Works every time.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
1: Not measuring Trumps mind. :shrug:

2: And yet you have yet to dispute anything that has been said. All that you've done is attack the poster.

Rest of your post isn't worth responding to.
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Film don't lie, Your boy is a POS, live with it.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

haymarket said:
Kal'Stang said:
Fact: Trump's mocking gestures does not in any way resemble the reporters disability.
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Your second so called FACT do resemble the reporters disability enough to trigger the connection in millions of people who saw them. But again - should they believe their lying eyes or should they believe you?
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Wrong.
And appeal to numbers? iLOL Doubly wrong.

His disability makes his arm immovable, which has nothing to do with spastic movements.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Excon said:
Wrong.
And appeal to numbers? iLOL Doubly wrong.

His disability makes his arm immovable, which has nothing to do with spastic movements.
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This is funny. But funny in a sad and sick sort of way. You are trying to analyze and intellectualize a mean spirited and bully boy tactic to see if it actually follows the real life details of the person being mocked. Trump no more cares about the medical details of what that reporter can do any more than a person really intends to prove that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is what she actually does.

In your excuse making, one could then say that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is not a slur nor an attack on ones mother because she really does not wear army boots. That is what you are doing making these lame excuses for Trump.

People saw it with their own eyes.
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes he made fun of him. No, I don't believe he made fun of his handicap.
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Your belief is in conflict with the available facts.

"Now, the poor guy, you’ve got to see this guy: 'Uhh, I don't know what I said. Uhh, I don't remember,' he's going like 'I don't remember. Maybe that's what I said'"
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
1: Not measuring Trumps mind. :shrug:

2: And yet you have yet to dispute anything that has been said. All that you've done is attack the poster.

Rest of your post isn't worth responding to.
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You're just kidding yourself. Why can't you be honest and admit he was mocking the disabled reporter as though he was retarded?
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

radcen said:
Of course not. You wouldn't allow yourself to be swayed by anything that contradicts your desired conclusion. I know it, and I bet that deep down you know it, but will never ever admit it publicly.

Shoot, you can't even grasp that another person's frame of mind (Trump's) is not something that can be measured by 'science', yet here you are flailing about in a debate trying to make that go. And we won't even touch on the difference between evidence and proof, which you are also conveniently ignoring.
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I'm really hoping the bold is true. This whole ridiculous theory is shocking.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Absentglare said:
You're just kidding yourself. Why can't you be honest and admit he was mocking the disabled reporter as though he was retarded?
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I am being honest. The evidence shows that he wasn't. Why won't you be honest with yourself and acknowledge the facts? If you have evidence otherwise then feel free to present it.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

haymarket said:
This is funny. But funny in a sad and sick sort of way. You are trying to analyze and intellectualize a mean spirited and bully boy tactic to see if it actually follows the real life details of the person being mocked. Trump no more cares about the medical details of what that reporter can do any more than a person really intends to prove that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is what she actually does.

In your excuse making, one could then say that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is not a slur nor an attack on ones mother because she really does not wear army boots. That is what you are doing making these lame excuses for Trump.

People saw it with their own eyes.
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And no one would have given a damn about Trumps mocking if the reporter hadn't been disabled. Oh they'd have mocked him back. But we would never have heard the excuse being touted by lefties in this situation. Evidence for that is that the other times that Trump made the same mocking rhetoric nothing was made of it.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
I am being honest. The evidence shows that he wasn't. Why won't you be honest with yourself and acknowledge the facts? If you have evidence otherwise then feel free to present it.
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You don't think he was doing his impression of a mentally retarded person?

I can buy that President-Elect Trump was not mocking the specific joint disability that the reporter suffered from if, instead, he was mocking him as though he was mentally retarded.

I saw the video. The interpretation of that gesture is subjective, but in my mind, it is undoubtedly a retard-mocking gesture.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Absentglare said:
You don't think he was doing his impression of a mentally retarded person?

I can buy that President-Elect Trump was not mocking the specific joint disability that the reporter suffered from if, instead, he was mocking him as though he was mentally retarded.

I saw the video. The interpretation of that gesture is subjective, but in my mind, it is undoubtedly a retard-mocking gesture.
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Thank you for admitting that he wasn't mocking the reporter for his disability as has been claimed by so many.

As for him making a retarded gesture... so what. The last times he did it barely a word was said. The only reason that it was blown so out of proportion this time was because the person he did it to was disabled. Was it stupid? Emphatic YES. Was it idiotic? Another emphatic YES. But the degree that it was blown out of proportion tells me that it wasn't really about the reporter, but because it was a rival and no other valid reason.
 
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At this point it is transparently obvious who isn't even reading or watching but just wants to drive by rant about the evil other without regard for the veracity of anything they are ranting about.
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

Kal'Stang said:
Thank you for admitting that he wasn't mocking the reporter for his disability as has been claimed by so many.

As for him making a retarded gesture... so what. The last times he did it barely a word was said. The only reason that it was blown so out of proportion this time was because the person he did it to was disabled. Was it stupid? Emphatic YES. Was it idiotic? Another emphatic YES. But the degree that it was blown out of proportion tells me that it wasn't really about the reporter, but because it was a rival and no other valid reason.
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Well that sounds honest to me.

I can see how people make jokes like that, in private, as i certainly have before, but it's upsetting for me to consider that our sitting president will have done that, on his campaign, without really apologizing for it.
 
Watch: President Obama Mocks Handicapped Children

In 2008, for example,*Obama's campaign*released an ad*that mocked Senator John McCain's inability to send emails. What they neglected to mention is that McCain's*inability to send emails was*the result of*physical limitations caused by the torture he underwent while a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

On another occasion, President Obama made a terrible joke at the expense of physically and mentally handicapped children. During a March 2009 appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, the president joked that*bowling a 129 was*"like being in the Special Olympics."

Watch: President Obama Mocks Handicapped Children | The Sean Hannity Show
 
Re: Did Trump make fun of a disabled reporter?

haymarket said:
This is funny. But funny in a sad and sick sort of way. You are trying to analyze and intellectualize a mean spirited and bully boy tactic to see if it actually follows the real life details of the person being mocked. Trump no more cares about the medical details of what that reporter can do any more than a person really intends to prove that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is what she actually does.

In your excuse making, one could then say that YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS is not a slur nor an attack on ones mother because she really does not wear army boots. That is what you are doing making these lame excuses for Trump.
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What is sad is you continually argue that of imagination and not reality.
He did not mock a person for their disability, because of their disability or the disability itself.


haymarket said:
People saw it with their own eyes.
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iLOL These people, like you, saw what they wanted to see. Which is why an appeal to the numbers/masses is wrong.
He was not mocked because of his disability.
What is truly sad is though we have actual evidence of why the reporter was mocked, you want to make up something else to believe which is unsupported by the evidence simply because you do not like the guy doing the mocking.
Too bad, you are wrong.
Get over it.
 
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