Trump Didn't Win Because of Racism

The idea that Trump won because of racism falls apart with a little scrutiny.

Would you believe that Mitt Romney won a greater percentage of the white vote than Donald Trump? Mitt took 59 percent while Trump won 58 percent. Would you believe that Trump improved the GOP’s position with black and Hispanic voters? Obama won 93 percent of the black vote. Hillary won 88 percent. Obama won 71 percent of the Latino vote. Hillary won 65 percent.

Critically, millions of minority voters apparently stayed home. Trump’s total vote is likely to land somewhere between John McCain’s and Romney’s (and well short of George W. Bush’s 2004 total), while the Democrats have lost almost 10 million voters since 2008. And all this happened even as Democrats doubled-down on their own identity politics. Black Lives Matter went from a fringe movement to the Democratic mainstream in the blink of an eye. Radical sexual politics were mainstreamed even faster. White voters responded mainly by voting in the same or lesser numbers as the last three presidential elections. That’s not a “whitelash,” it’s consistency.

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Given the collapse of lower income support for Hillary maybe America's poor want better policies more than gay wedding cakes.

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Let's just say it didn't hurt. Ask the KKK and White Nationalists as they cheer him.

Manc Skipper said:

Let's just say it didn't hurt. Ask the KKK and White Nationalists as they cheer him.

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It wasn't White Nationalists what carried Trump to victory, it was common, everyday, racially tolerant, racially inclusive, often of mixed Race Marriages, Working Whites, who are fed up with the Democratic Party's Corruption, not the least of which is 45 years of Government Insitutionalized Anti-White Racial Discrimination!

Live by the Race Pandering, then DIE by the Race Pandering.

It is about RACISM, the Anti-White Racism of the Democratic Party!

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LowDown said:

The idea that Trump won because of racism falls apart with a little scrutiny.



Given the collapse of lower income support for Hillary maybe America's poor want better policies more than gay wedding cakes.

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Trump won by using the democrat playbook, he ran as a populist focusing on the economy and middle class, while hillary use the republican playbook, focusing on maintaining the status quo. The only thing that stayed the same were wedge issues, which apparently mattered little this election.

Trump sought the appeal of lower income, those affected by globalization and outsourcing. These voters are generally lower class white folks who were former middle and upper class, and apparently t was a big enough block of voters to carry trump, a block democrats used to cater to but have dismissed this election.

beerftw said:

Trump won by using the democrat playbook, he ran as a populist focusing on the economy and middle class, while hillary use the republican playbook, focusing on maintaining the status quo. The only thing that stayed the same were wedge issues, which apparently mattered little this election.

Trump sought the appeal of lower income, those affected by globalization and outsourcing. These voters are generally lower class white folks who were former middle and upper class, and apparently t was a big enough block of voters to carry trump, a block democrats used to cater to but have dismissed this election.

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And the now organized Working White Vote is going to be a huge force in every election for the the next 100 years!

Long Live the AWVSM!

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Lol, Trump won because most of white middle america felt that the Dems pander to minorities over the majority. I wouldn't call it full blown racism. More like Racism lite, like the Alllivesmattermovement, or people who complain about affirmative action a little to much. Most people who voted for Trump don't hate minorities, they just hate being second to minorities.

Kurmugeon said:

And the now organized Working White Vote is going to be a huge force in every election for the the next 100 years!

Long Live the AWVSM!

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no not really, it was a big turnout this election because they were ignored because their vote was taken as granted, trump just saw the disenfranchised voters and leaped on it. This only works though if they stay disenfranchised, much like the saying democrats keep people poor because the poor vote democrat.

saying they will vote this way for 100 years will imply the poor white collar voters will always stay poor and will never recover .

beerftw said:

no not really, it was a big turnout this election because they were ignored because their vote was taken as granted, trump just saw the disenfranchised voters and leaped on it. This only works though if they stay disenfranchised, much like the saying democrats keep people poor because the poor vote democrat.

saying they will vote this way for 100 years will imply the poor white collar voters will always stay poor and will never recover .

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Trump got more women vote than Romney
More black and Hispanic vote as well.

Black voters revolted in voting and simply didn't show up for Hillary same went with Hispanic voters.

Manc Skipper said:

Let's just say it didn't hurt. Ask the KKK and White Nationalists as they cheer him.

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BLM, the Black Panthers, and the Communist party backed Hillary. Not to mention CAIR, you know that inclusive:lamo Islamic group, tied to terrorism.

ludin said:

Trump got more women vote than Romney
More black and Hispanic vote as well.

Black voters revolted in voting and simply didn't show up for Hillary same went with Hispanic voters.

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Among the disenfranchised, white people were not the only ones who fit trumps demographic, the white voters just made up the majority of the former factory union workers now working dead end jobs.

But let's look at the black population, trumo by no means won the black vote, but he dd well compared to other republicans. But look at detroit, prior to detroit shutting down economically it was an economic powerhouse, had a heavy black population, and had the highest standard of living for blacks in the country, it is no stretch he appealed to enough voters there, especially thse who lived when detroit was a manufacturing powerhouse.

Hispanic vote is hard to pinpoint, they trend democrat but in reality from my experience they will vote whoever the hell they want, depite how hard you try to bribe them with goodies.

LowDown said:

The idea that Trump won because of racism falls apart with a little scrutiny.



Given the collapse of lower income support for Hillary maybe America's poor want better policies more than gay wedding cakes.

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This might ensure that Hillary could be the last white Democrat candidate for president

LowDown said:

The idea that Trump won because of racism falls apart with a little scrutiny.



Given the collapse of lower income support for Hillary maybe America's poor want better policies more than gay wedding cakes.

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Maybe America's poor finally figured out that opportunity comes easier with Conservatives in power.

jimbo said:

Maybe America's poor finally figured out that opportunity comes easier with Conservatives in power.

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I wouldn't exactly call Trump a conservative though, right? I thought the thing of him, was, he was neither. I don't think conservatives can see a Trump victory as any kind of vindication. More like a wake up call, he is swiggity swooty coming for that booty so to speak in regards to the establishment.

ThoughtEx. said:

I wouldn't exactly call Trump a conservative though, right? I thought the thing of him, was, he was neither. I don't think conservatives can see a Trump victory as any kind of vindication. More like a wake up call, he is swiggity swooty coming for that booty so to speak in regards to the establishment.

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You are correct. I don't think of Trump as a Conservative, but slightly on the conservative side of the aisle.

I think of Trump as the best hope we had to straighten out what's bent in the country.,

It's very clear to me why Trump won this election and it certainly wasn't racism. Yes, there were plenty of racist people that voted for Trump, but that doesn't win an election.

When you look at states Trump won...typically liberal lock-ins like Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and diverse states like Ohio and Florida...It becomes very obvious what happened, and it's not Trump was the lesser of two evils. Yes, at the end of the day - had a decent candidate on either side been present, it would've been a surefire victory for them, but the reality is they were both considered just as bad as each other, almost cancelling the whole fact that they were bad to begin with.

It came down to the fact, that people are not happy with the way the Democratic party has functioned recently. They aren't happy with the spiraling costs of healthcare. They aren't happy with how poorly foreign affairs have been handled under the Obama administration. They aren't happy with how the economy has stagnated when it should have bloomed, while jobs continue to leave and people's income continue to suffer with rising taxes and nothing to show for it from our government but more waste. They aren't happy with the trillions in debt we have and increasing. These are serious economic and defense issues that our country faces right now, and always has been and always will be the basis of how many people vote.

However, what I think they are most unhappy with, and I think this becomes very evident in the way many white, but typically very liberal states voted, is the way they've been treated by the Democratic party. I believe that was largely the deciding factor, that a party they've largely supported in a way has turned their backs on them, and ostracized them as public enemy number one, white male liberals especially. It's very similar to how Republicans alienated the latino vote. You can't preach hatred toward a group and expect every one of them to self-hate. Some will, most won't.

Until the Democratic party stops this whole white people are the evil of the world campaign they are on, their demographics in voting will be divided and give Republicans an equal playing field in demographic hate.

Crovax said:

This might ensure that Hillary could be the last white Democrat candidate for president

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You mean she isn't running in 2020?

Manc Skipper said:

Let's just say it didn't hurt. Ask the KKK and White Nationalists as they cheer him.

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Manc Skipper said:

Let's just say it didn't hurt. Ask the KKK and White Nationalists as they cheer him.

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So the people in the Blue Belt are racist, people of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are racist?


That's the people that put him over the top...it wasn't Alabama and Mississippi

I agree that racism wasn't the defining factor. It was a white working class revolt, but it had more to do with them being frustrated with the system than anything else. Racism played a part, as is obvious by the whole KKK fiasco, but it would be stupid to ignore the major factor of class.

KKK has around 6000 members or so


Yup that did it...LOL...idiots

LowDown said:

The idea that Trump won because of racism falls apart with a little scrutiny.

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Glad to see some articles actually getting on the argument I've been pointing out all over the place since Tuesday night when I first saw the numbers.

Whites made up less of the electorate than 2012, and a lower percentage voted for Trump. A higher percentage of blacks, Hispanics, and Asians voted for Trump than they did Romney. And younger people and minorities moved away from Clinton compared to Obama by nearly 5% points.

The notion this was a "whitelash" like the idiot Van Jones said on CNN is ridiculous fiction. Indeed, had the Democrats done as well and the Republicans as poorly with minorities as they did in 2012, Trump likely loses. It's only because democrats lost part of the minority vote and Republicans gained part of it that we likely have a Trump presidency; a far cry from the narrative going into the election.

But that won't stop people from the media networks to day time talk to social media droning on about the fault of "whites" without even taking the time to actually look at the data.

The whole idea of a "whitelash" is pretty preposterous, anyway.