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Silver Lining: Legal pot

TheGoverness said:
I really hope Donald Trump doesn't go after recreational marijuana.

What is even his position on weed? Nobody's asked him.
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Historically pro weed and anti war on drugs, his stance only changed after he ran for president, where it became lets see the research before we legalize it recreationally, but medical yes.
 
reinoe said:
Obama launched the initiative where he would address any concern that reached a certain number of e-signatures via White House petition. Literally the first petition to be addressed by Obama in a matter of days was taking a softer stance on marijuana laws. Obama's reaction was to say "lolno" and to hell with you. Obama is either wildly ignorant of why people want to end the unnecessary War On Drugs or he just doesn't care about the lives destroyed by it.

And let's not forget, the White House could very easily stop cracking down on federal enforcement of marijuana use but they Choose not to.

Obama Administration Vows To Crush State Efforts To Decriminalize Marijuana
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The white house literally can, the president can not legally end laws with eo, but he can use eo to direct how agencies enforce the law within the writing of the law.
 
Incisor said:
We'll take what we can get.

What's funny is that marijuana is one of the only issues where I think Conservatives and Liberals can find common ground. Maybe that's where we should start next year?
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Not conservatives. Republicans, many of who are really liberal or libertarian. I dont think we'll be finding much common ground between those who see govt as a solution, and those who see it as a problem.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...for-marijuana-legalization-continues-to-rise/

The Pew Research Center survey, conducted Aug. 23-Sept. 2 among 1,201 U.S. adults, also finds persistent partisan and ideological divides in public opinion on marijuana legalization.

By more than two-to-one, Democrats favor legalizing marijuana over having it be illegal (66% vs. 30%). Most Republicans (55%) oppose marijuana legalization, while 41% favor it.

Republicans are internally divided over marijuana legalization. By a wide margin (63% to 35%), moderate and liberal Republicans favor legalizing the use of marijuana. By contrast, 62% of conservative Republicans oppose legalizing marijuana use, while just 33% favor it.
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Cardinal said:
Yeah, Californians voted to keep the death penalty as well as to make the appeals process shorter and more difficult. But that's cool, because they gave themselves the right to get high.

Democracy gets an F this year.
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i voted to end the death penalty and try to save some money. I guess the right really does have nothing but social plans instead of capital plans.
 
TheGoverness said:
I really hope Donald Trump doesn't go after recreational marijuana.

What is even his position on weed? Nobody's asked him.
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Jeff Sessions is AG. Sessions prolly believes smoking herb makes you extra attracted to black guys. Under Session's direction the giant waste of money that is the War on Drugs will continue, unabated to ruin many more young lives, while doing nothing to combat use rates.
 
TheGoverness said:
I really hope Donald Trump doesn't go after recreational marijuana.

What is even his position on weed? Nobody's asked him.
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I don't think he gives a ****, but Sessions, his AG, is very much anti-pot. An anti-pot AG could make life hell for all manner of related businesses, whether or not "medicinal." Believe it's still treated like heroin federally.

I suspect the greatest limiting factors are:

(1) Votes. The fact that many conservatives actually do believe in small government, personal freedom, and federalism over modern demands, so they don't want the federal government (especially, but many also state) bothering with marijuana, and

(2) Resources. States have no duty to enforce federal law with their agents. Legitimate businesses are much easier to target, but it still takes a diversion of resources. States that allowed personal growing (ie, MA), will not be worth sending federal agents to unless they go completely insane with it.





However, my bet is this: Trump didn't say anything significant about weed on the trail, so he's not going to give much of a **** if Sessions tells him that federal law enforcement should be put on the trail. However, he might convince Trump to tell the IRS to approach state-legal businesses from a tax standpoint.

I hope Trump realizes that weed decriminalization/legalization does not have as much of a political divide as many other issues, therefore, chooses not to upset conservatives who also agree that the War on Drugs is a stupid, expensive, damaging, and utter failure. Especially as to the safest recreational substance on the planet.
 
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Incisor said:
Well, it wasn't a total loss. We got legal pot in CA, MA, and NV.
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legal pot = OK in my book; America WAS supposed to be about freedom, I thought ..................

I am 56 years old; when I was 15 years old in 1976 I was telling everyone I knew that pot should be legal & taxed

as far as I am aware, there has never been a single documented case in all of human history of a single human being that has ODed on pot

pot does not kill humans; alcohol kills people, prescriptions drugs kill people, war kills people
 
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