“Now that I saw it myself, I want to go home and see how it looks on CNN

ocean515 said:

Why does reality not bother you?

10's of millions of people are concerned with the confirmed bias, collusion, fraud, and corruption of the Democratic Party candidate for President of the United States.

I guess some see those as attributes.

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In an election there is one reality which trumps all - who wins and who loses. Trump will lose. And so then do his supporters and apologists.

haymarket said:

In an election there is one reality which trumps all - who wins and who loses. Trump will lose. And so then do his supporters and apologists.

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In other words, I can't defend the facts so I'm just going to write something about the future.

:sinking:

ocean515 said:

In other words, I can't defend the facts so I'm just going to write something about the future.

:sinking:

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No - its a fact that in an election the only reality that counts is the winner. And Trump will lose. But feel free to return here in three weeks and tell me I was wrong.

btw - anytime you have to begin your post with "in other words" you know you have already lost.

haymarket said:

And both Hitler and Trump tell the world that only they can fix the problems.

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Given the massive corruption of Globalist Granny, DJT is right. Granny can't fix the problems in Washington, she's corrupt as hell and leftists want more of it. Unbelievable.

haymarket said:

No - its a fact that in an election the only reality that counts is the winner. And Trump will lose. But feel free to return here in three weeks and tell me I was wrong.

btw - anytime you have to begin your post with "in other words" you know you have already lost.

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LOL

Sure thing haymarket.

RetiredUSN said:

Hillary will pardon herself once in office.

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And, if she is elected, she'll be the first president to leave office a billionaire.

DamnYankee said:

Given the massive corruption of Globalist Granny, DJT is right. Granny can't fix the problems in Washington, she's corrupt as hell and leftists want more of it. Unbelievable.

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I know of no person who is progressive who supports corruption. But I would be happy to examine your verifiable evidence if you have it to present.

ocean515 said:

LOL

Sure thing haymarket.

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It is a sure thing. The reality that counts in an election is who wins. And that will not be your boy Trump.

But feel free to come back here in three weeks and tell me I was wrong and your alternate reality triumphed. I look forward to it.

haymarket said:

I know of no person who is progressive who supports corruption. But I would be happy to examine your verifiable evidence if you have it to present.

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ROTFLMAO

The left in this country IS corrupt, look who they are hoping gets elected. LMAO

DamnYankee said:

ROTFLMAO

The left in this country IS corrupt, look who they are hoping gets elected. LMAO

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As I said and as you ignored - I would be happy to examine your verifiable evidence if you have it to present.

haymarket said:

It is a sure thing. The reality that counts in an election is who wins. And that will not be your boy Trump.

But feel free to come back here in three weeks and tell me I was wrong and your alternate reality triumphed. I look forward to it.

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Why are you repeating yourself? I laughed off your crystal ball duck and cover the first time.

I have no idea who is going to be the next President. Obviously I have my preference.

If Trump is not the one, I will enjoy taking on Hillary The Corrupt, and the little people she gathers around her, for the next four years.

haymarket said:

As I said and as you ignored - I would be happy to examine your verifiable evidence if you have it to present.

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Does it matter? Any amount of evidence is never enough for a leftist. If you can't find it by now, you never will. Keep your head buried in the sand if you want. That's not my problem.

And for the record, the election isn't over. It's a horse race and that's what scares the living be-jeebers out of the globalists, especially the left. The corporate media sure is working overtime pushing a candidate that supposedly already won. Curious, isn't it?

ocean515 said:

I have no idea who is going to be the next President.

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But I do and told you so. And the reality of a Clinton win trumps anything else in a Presidential election.

DamnYankee said:

Does it matter? Any amount of evidence is never enough for a leftist. If you can't find it by now, you never will.

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As this is a DEBATE site - by virtue of its very name - yes, it does matter for you to be able to support your views. And as of yet, you have presented no evidence. And it is always incumbent upon the person making a claim of fact to provide their evidence of that same fact. It is not mine nor anyone else responsibility to "FIND IT".

haymarket said:

As this is a DEBATE site - by virtue of its very name - yes, it does matter for you to be able to support your views. And as of yet, you have presented no evidence. And it is always incumbent upon the person making a claim of fact to provide their evidence of that same fact. It is not mine nor anyone else responsibility to "FIND IT".

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Nice try. You're not listening.

For someone who has already won this election, why is Globalist Granny in hiding? And why is the corporate media not reporting on Granny's corruption?

DamnYankee said:

Nice try. You're not listening.

For someone who has already won this election, why is Globalist Granny in hiding? And why is the corporate media not reporting on Granny's corruption?

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What you call hiding is what professionals call debate prep. Your guy should try it and maybe he would not be ten points behind.

As far as corruption, I have seen lots of reports on it. Perhaps you are not watching closely enough.

And it is STILL incumbent upon YOU to present evidence for your own claims. I do not have to find anything.

haymarket said:

But I do and told you so. And the reality of a Clinton win trumps anything else in a Presidential election.

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What will a corrupt president do for you anyway? She's in it to enrich herself. I thought you leftists hated the rich?

haymarket said:

What you call hiding is what professionals call debate prep. Your guy should try it and maybe he would not be ten points behind.

As far as corruption, I have seen lots of reports on it. Perhaps you are not watching closely enough.

And it is STILL incumbent upon YOU to present evidence for your own claims. I do not have to find anything.

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I don't read polls as a rule.

DamnYankee said:

Does it matter? Any amount of evidence is never enough for a leftist. If you can't find it by now, you never will. Keep your head buried in the sand if you want. That's not my problem.

And for the record, the election isn't over. It's a horse race and that's what scares the living be-jeebers out of the globalists, especially the left. The corporate media sure is working overtime pushing a candidate that supposedly already won. Curious, isn't it?

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Projection is a powerful thing...

DamnYankee said:

What will a corrupt president do for you anyway? She's in it to enrich herself. I thought you leftists hated the rich?

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I suspect she will be fair to mediocre at best. And I expect Clinton to do precious little for me outside of Supreme Court appoints and other judicial appointments which I would suspect I will support. I do not hate the rich and admire many rich Americans who worked hard to earn their wealth.

DamnYankee said:

I don't read polls as a rule.

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Which is your right. Just as it is Trumps right not to prep for debate and get by on insults and a scorched earth policy. And just how it is the right of the American to vote and express their disapproval of that same candidate.

haymarket said:

Which is your right. Just as it is Trumps right not to prep for debate and get by on insults and a scorched earth policy. And just how it is the right of the American to vote and express their disapproval of that same candidate.

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Yep.

Mr Person said:

That's an opinion piece from some obscure rag. Here's another opinion piece from the same obscure rag.

Donald Trump thinks he?s running in a different nation | Newsday

It says things like this:


Give Donald Trump credit: His boasts of egregious behavior in forcing himself on women, and the growing number who say he forced himself on them, is forcing America to confront uncomfortable facts about how women are sexually abused, sexually assaulted and sexually objectified, and not only by men in power. But as necessary as this conversation is, another pernicious threat related to Trump’s views on power is getting shorter shrift: his alarming willingness to use the presidency to erode the very principles upon which this country was founded.Consider the election itself. It’s rigged, Trump says incessantly, like so many other things are rigged. He talks of it being “stolen,” mentioning places that just coincidentally have large African American populations, most recently Philadelphia, in warning: “We have to make sure we’re protected.” A study by a Loyola Law School professor found 31 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 1 billion votes cast from 2000 to 2014. In other words, this doesn’t happen.

But by invoking a many-tentacled plot by the media, Democratic officials, some states and who knows who else to deliver a victory to Clinton, Trump undermines the legitimacy of that potential win. If you hear an echo of his birther attempt to undermine the legitimacy of President Barack Obama, you’re right. Where does this baseless casting of shadows lead? To a Mike Pence rally last week in Iowa, where a woman expressed the refusal of Trump fans to accept a Clinton win. “If Hillary Clinton gets in, I myself, I’m ready for a revolution because we can’t have her in,” she said. Pence knows better, and replied, “Don’t say that.”

Donald Trump thinks he?s running in a different nation | Newsday





Hrrmmmm...

It's almost like the OP reflected only that which it was intended to reflect.

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We know a little bit after all the campaigning:

Hillary:

1. Thinks her base is a bunch of idiots. Thanks Wikipedia. And, she finds the mass of Republicans Deplorable and Irredeemable.

2. Lied about her server.

3. Lied about her emails.

4. Lied about Benghazi.

5. Is tight with Wall Street.

6. Has public and private positions on most everything. In other words... she lies.

7. Lied about the Clinton Foundation/Criminal Enterprise and the pay-to-play scam she ran at the State Department.

Compared to Criminal Hillary, Nixon was a saint. Nixon made the mistake of trying to cover actions he initially didn't know about. Hillary architected her criminalities.

Lock Her Up.


Trump:

1. Like Hillary... loves *****.

2. Has actually accomplished something with his life.

3. Isn't a bought off political hack.

4. Didn't spend his whole life crafting an image for a life in politics. Hillary did, and she is still corrupt to the core.

Trump does what everyone claims they want from a politician. Unvarnished honesty. The Libs can't take it... and Libs can never tell Americans what they really want to do... because almost nobody would vote for them.

And with the support of the Goebbels inspired Press Corpse, Hillary is having difficulties. If the press were honest, she'd never have been nominated, she'd be disgraced into hiding, and likely be in a court room somewhere answering for her crimes... if not locked up already.