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The first legal slave owner in America was a Black Man

truthatallcost said:
Some of the most prosperous slave traders were Jewish. That's rarely mentioned today.
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Oh jeez, the alt-right are really coming out of their homes now. Blacks are bad. Jews are bad. Anybody else you guys hate?
 
rocket88 said:
Oh jeez, the alt-right are really coming out of their homes now. Blacks are bad. Jews are bad. Anybody else you guys hate?
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Not really, just not interested in censoring history to appease any one specific group.
 
truthatallcost said:
Some of the most prosperous slave traders were Jewish. That's rarely mentioned today
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Slavery ended in the USA when the North kicked the South's butt in the Civil War.

Is anyone looking for a rematch?

If so,bring it on.

:lol:




"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
 
volsrock said:
you are right it dont matter that blacks owned slaves and still do

it don't matter that cops kill more whites than blacks

it don't matter that blacks commit 52 per cent of of all murders in this country yet they only make up 12-13 per cent of the population
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Ah, now we get to the heart of the matter. You are a racist. You should try posting at Stormfront. They would love you there.
 
truthatallcost said:
Some of the most prosperous slave traders were Jewish. That's rarely mentioned today.
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Some of the most prosperous were Jewish...................... And Dutch, and British, and Spanish, etc, etc. Why bring up only the Jews, or is that an old German tradition of yours?

And Jewish participation is mentioned a lot, BTW...... By the Jews themselves.

How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade? | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/slaves.html

How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade? | Articles | Jewish Journal

Project MUSE - Jews, Slaves, and the Slave Trade: Setting the Record Straight (review)

These articles are just for starters. I have hundreds more to post, if necessary.
 
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danarhea said:
Ah, now we get to the heart of the matter. You are a racist. You should try posting at Stormfront. They would love you there.
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LOL so FBI DOJ stats are racist?

I don't say blacks commit 52 per cent of of all murders in this country...crimes stats do

Blacks in Africa still trade slaves....FACT


Cops kill more whites....FACT


You are and IDIOT since u want to start name calling
 
shrubnose said:
Slavery ended in the USA when the North kicked the South's butt in the Civil War.


"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
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North didnt kick the South ass

Strength

North 698,000 (peak)
South 360,000 (peak)

Casualties

North 365,000+ total dead 282,000+ wounded
South 290,000+ total dead 137,000+ wounded



North had South out numbered 2 to 1 but the South whipped that ass killing and wounding 225k plus more men THAT'S AN ASS WHIPPING!!!!

The South just ran out of money and fighters
 
volsrock said:
North didnt kick the South ass

Strength

North 698,000 (peak)
South 360,000 (peak)

Casualties

North 365,000+ total dead 282,000+ wounded
South 290,000+ total dead 137,000+ wounded

North had South out numbered 2 to 1 but the South whipped that ass killing and wounding 225k plus more men THAT'S AN ASS WHIPPING!!!!

The South just ran out of money and fighters
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And food, and uniforms, and railroads, and ships....

They were asskicked fair and square...

Beaten like a rented mule.

Sherman's march was just a prelude to what would happen if the South chose to continue resistance.
 
volsrock said:
North didnt kick the South ass

Strength

North 698,000 (peak)
South 360,000 (peak)

Casualties

North 365,000+ total dead 282,000+ wounded
South 290,000+ total dead 137,000+ wounded



North had South out numbered 2 to 1 but the South whipped that ass killing and wounding 225k plus more men THAT'S AN ASS WHIPPING!!!!

The South just ran out of money and fighters
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I grew up loving the old Confederacy and the Stars and Bars...but now I can see clearly that the Confederacy should have known better than to try to take on the North - the Union was simply too strong by every measure. The individual soldiers of the South were generally better, and their generals were quite good, but as Napoleon said, "Quantity has a quality all its own." The South did indeed get its ass kicked.
 
danarhea said:
Some of the most prosperous were Jewish...................... And Dutch, and British, and Spanish, etc, etc. Why bring up only the Jews, or is that an old German tradition of yours?

And Jewish participation is mentioned a lot, BTW...... By the Jews themselves.

How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade? | Jewish Telegraphic Agency

http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/slaves.html

How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade? | Articles | Jewish Journal

Project MUSE - Jews, Slaves, and the Slave Trade: Setting the Record Straight (review)

These articles are just for starters. I have hundreds more to post, if necessary.
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Thanks man, good post. Of course I know that Jews weren't the only slave traders. I just don't think they get credit. I'll check out your links. Big ups playa.
 
volsrock said:
North didnt kick the South ass
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Strength

North 698,000 (peak)
South 360,000 (peak)

Casualties

North 365,000+ total dead 282,000+ wounded
South 290,000+ total dead 137,000+ wounded



North had South out numbered 2 to 1 but the South whipped that ass killing and wounding 225k plus more men THAT'S AN ASS WHIPPING!!!!

The South just ran out of money and fighters
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Believe whatever you want to believe but slavery came to an end in the USA because the Union Army defeated the Confederate Army.

The South will not rise again.
 
volsrock said:
North didnt kick the South ass

Strength

North 698,000 (peak)
South 360,000 (peak)

Casualties

North 365,000+ total dead 282,000+ wounded
South 290,000+ total dead 137,000+ wounded



North had South out numbered 2 to 1 but the South whipped that ass killing and wounding 225k plus more men THAT'S AN ASS WHIPPING!!!!

The South just ran out of money and fighters
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you need a history lesson. the N did indeed kick the souths ass.
 
Stormfront must be down for maintenance.
 
Paperview said:
Hey, bucko - Slavery was legalized in Massachusetts in 1641.

There were laws regarding fugitive slaves there in the 1630's.

Do the math. 1630's is earlier than 1655.

Johnson's 1656 case "was the first instance of a judicial determination in the Thirteen Colonies holding that a person who had committed no crime could be held in servitude for life."

John Punch is considered by historians to be the very first official slave.

"In July 1640, the Virginia Governor's Council sentenced him to serve for the remainder of his life as punishment for running away to Maryland."

Hugh Gwyn was his master.

John Punch (slave) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://blackamericaweb.com/2012/07/3...ct-john-punch/

And curiously enough -- Obama descends from this very first slave in America!

Howzaboutthat?
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Your own sources contradict your arguments. Thats probably because you are desperate to make an argument.
 
shrubnose said:
Believe whatever you want to believe but slavery came to an end in the USA because the Union Army defeated the Confederate Army.

The South will not rise again.
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Right. Slavery now is really just practiced in...well...Africa. Still.
 
I guess by way of title the OP is correct. It WAS the first colonial case legally ordered. However...slavery existed on this continent long before the Europeans came here. Native tribes on the northern continent practced slavery. Native tribes throughout the southern continent practiced slavery. I guess since there wasnt a justice system and order by a court those dont officially count...but slavery in America began long ago here and without Euro influence.
 
Paperview said:
Only for those unable to comprehend. Or understand chronological time.
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YOUR sources...was John Punch the 'first slave' or not? And did Hugh Gwynn sue for a right to own a slave or was Punch sentenced as a punishment?

The fact is that Anthony Johnson was indeed the first person in the Commonwealth that applied for and was awarded the rights of ownership of John Casor.
 
He was legally his slave dude.

John Punch is considered by historians to be the very first official slave.

Slavery was legalized in Massachusetts in 1641. <--- Meaning slaveowners had a legal right to their slaves

There were laws regarding fugitive slaves there in the 1630's. <--- Meaning slaveowners had a legal right to have their slaves returned.
 
Paperview said:
He was legally his slave dude.

John Punch is considered by historians to be the very first official slave.

Slavery was legalized in Massachusetts in 1641. <--- Meaning slaveowners had a legal right to their slaves

There were laws regarding fugitive slaves there in the 1630's. <--- Meaning slaveowners had a legal right to have their slaves returned.
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So...not ACTUALLY, because thats not the case, but CONSIDERED to be..right? So if you back that position then all your other bull**** links about slaves from 1610 well...thats out the window. Like I said...you look pretty silly when you post contradictory sources...but you were doing a good job of kicking your own ass.

So now we just have to decide whether or not there is a difference between a prison sentence and a judge granting slave ownership, none of which negates the FACT that the first man in the colonies to file for and be awarded the right of slave ownership was a black man. Thats not going to change, no matter how desperately you want it to.
 
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