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Were Nazis Socialists?

rabbitcaebannog said:
The Affordable Care Act is also part of many Republican ideas. It is market oriented as in private business, private insurance companies etc....Now if a Obama went with a single payer system, he would be far more socialist.
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yes it originated in the smoke filled republican board meetings,and yep market oriented but socialist as far as gov enforcement. the gumment controls the means of production (sort of) and by aca being a tax and with a penalty for noncompliance makes it sumthin akin to tyranny/hitleresqueness.
 
hado117 said:
yes it originated in the smoke filled republican board meetings,and yep market oriented but socialist as far as gov enforcement. the gumment controls the means of production (sort of) and by aca being a tax and with a penalty for noncompliance makes it sumthin akin to tyranny/hitleresqueness.
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Since when is government force socialism? Proof please. Also, the government does not own the means of production for ACA. At the very least get your facts straight.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
Since when is government force socialism? Proof please. Also, the government does not own the means of production for ACA. At the very least get your facts straight.
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since when is gov. ? the gov itself is not socialism but forcing the american people to accept a policy is. when aca was introduced it was not a tax. the supreme court couldnt legally and constitutionally pass aca as it was introduced, because it is illegal for the gov. to force the americanpeople to purchase a product/commodity. so it had to become a tax to be legal. aca is nothing but a huge tax increase for the middle class. in a way the gov does control the means of production because they will not allow legislation which will allow prescription drugs from different sources. the whole medical system is designed to make congress, stockholders, and bankers rich.
 
hado117 said:
since when is gov. ? the gov itself is not socialism but forcing the american people to accept a policy is. when aca was introduced it was not a tax. the supreme court couldnt legally and constitutionally pass aca as it was introduced, because it is illegal for the gov. to force the americanpeople to purchase a product/commodity. so it had to become a tax to be legal. aca is nothing but a huge tax increase for the middle class. in a way the gov does control the means of production because they will not allow legislation which will allow prescription drugs from different sources. the whole medical system is designed to make congress, stockholders, and bankers rich.
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this is why the dorgan snow drug importation act didnt pass. congress doesnt want to help the american people, they want to socialize healthcare. for profits.
 
hado117 said:
since when is gov. ? the gov itself is not socialism but forcing the american people to accept a policy is. when aca was introduced it was not a tax. the supreme court couldnt legally and constitutionally pass aca as it was introduced, because it is illegal for the gov. to force the americanpeople to purchase a product/commodity. so it had to become a tax to be legal. aca is nothing but a huge tax increase for the middle class. in a way the gov does control the means of production because they will not allow legislation which will allow prescription drugs from different sources. the whole medical system is designed to make congress, stockholders, and bankers rich.
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None of that is socialism.
 
Kobie said:
you just blew my mind
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it seemed like whatever message i posted the answer was going to be '' thats not socialism'' so i thought the responders werent to be taken seriously. so i just through sumthin out there. pero sabes que? it does matter! not that my messages make any damned difference. truth is ill be lookinn for a new country to call home soon . ifn the things continue down the path to gov. control and dependance.
 
hado117 said:
it seemed like whatever message i posted the answer was going to be '' thats not socialism'' so i thought the responders werent to be taken seriously. so i just through sumthin out there. pero sabes que? it does matter! not that my messages make any damned difference. truth is ill be lookinn for a new country to call home soon . ifn the things continue down the path to gov. control and dependance.
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Somalia's nice.
 
Kobie said:
Somalia's nice.
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I havnt been there. but i prob wouldnt choose somalia, not bcus of the political unrest, but mostly my unfamiliarity with it. i would be completely lost plus the language barrier. i think ill stick to the western hemisphere.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
Um, perhaps you should read a book and learn what socialism is before you decide to assign labels to everything. At least get your facts straight.
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I havent read a book in which the entire subject matter concerned socialism, and i probably never will. it is easy to find the definition of socialism. some european countries have soacialist govs. the word can be applied in many situations regarding government. in this situation as was posted ealier it refers to socialized medicine and gov. control of the means of production. it seems you dont have a basis for argument so you try to tear down anyone who differs from your point of view. if you even have one. are you a nazi too?
 
hado117 said:
I havent read a book in which the entire subject matter concerned socialism, and i probably never will. it is easy to find the definition of socialism. some european countries have soacialist govs. the word can be applied in many situations regarding government. in this situation as was posted ealier it refers to socialized medicine and gov. control of the means of production. it seems you dont have a basis for argument so you try to tear down anyone who differs from your point of view. if you even have one. are you a nazi too?
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I would suggest you educate yourself before applying labels, otherwise you run the risks of looking foolish but foolish is your right.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
I would suggest you educate yourself before applying labels, otherwise you run the risks of looking foolish but foolish is your right.
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are you capable of posting something constructive? is it that time of the month?
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
The irony:lol:
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please accept my apology if my post offended you. it seemed as though instead of responding to my post.,you attacked me personally, and my intelligence. i responded with prideful statements. please forgive me
 
The 25 Points of National Socialism are very socialist.
 
Hitler was good in the beginning. He built the roads and got the economy running. He just went to far (Stalingrad).
 
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