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How Many Permanent Jobs Does the Keystone Pipeline Create?

How many jobs will be created via the pipeline really isn't the whole picture is it? Very few jobs were created in each component of the space program as to providing direct and ongoing services or products for the space program, but the innovations that came from it have created hundreds of thousands of jobs. Ditto in the invention of the automobile or development of how to create plastics from petroleum, etc.

How many people will be needed to operate the pipeline itself is the tip of the iceberg.

The ultimate defining merit comes in how many overall benefit from the pipeline. In addition to the pipeline itself, there are those who receive, process, refine, transport, and market the products made from the oil. There are those who provide products and services to those who refine, transport, and market the products made from the oil. There are those who benefit from lower fuel costs who will be able to use the extra capital to hire another employee or increase benefits to those he/she has or to expand or grow a business that will need several more employees as well as folks to provide products and services for that business.

Those who fail to understand the rudimentary basics of macroeconomics will generally get it wrong re the benefits of something like the Keystone Pipeline.
 
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US Conservative said:
Its good to hear you were astute enough to plan ahead, and I hope its paying off.
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Well I'm only 46 and just told my employer that I'm officially retiring this year. How many people my age can do that? So yes, those investments, hard work and other investments, especially in real estate, have paid off very well.

US Conservative said:
I think in the end people can only take the hang wringing and shrieking so long before they figure out how important oil is to any advanced economy.
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I agree. I'm an environmentalist myself, but it seems that many people who call themselves environmentalists don't really give a **** about peoples' environment. They are all about typical left wing bullcrap. They don't care about the environment.
 
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It's very short-sighted to approve this project.
 
Muhammed said:
Well I'm only 46 and just told my employer that I'm officially retiring this year. How many people my age can do that? So yes, those investments, hard work and other investments, especially in real estate, have paid off very well.

I agree. I'm an environmentalist myself, but it seems that many people who call themselves environmentalists don't really give a **** about peoples' environment. They are all about typical left wing bullcrap. They don't care about the environment.
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Well done on the foresight, and imo what we call "environmentalists" :roll: are more about control than anything else.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
How many permanent jobs is this "great job creator" known as the Keystone Pipeline going to create? 1,000? 5,000? 42,000? 50,000? 500? 100? No its going to create 35. 35 jobs. Thats it.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...an-jones-says-keystone-pipeline-only-creates/

What a great "job creator" :roll:
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And how many jobs will be created during the construction of this project? And why is this infrastructure project not worth doing when every other taxpayer funded, Obama supporting infrastructure project is? And why do you only analyze the FULL TIME jobs on this project and not the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of stimulus projects that Obama and the dems pushed through? And are socialists just incapable of honest, straight forward discussion?
 
Henrin said:
Why is it that when liberals propose something that they claim will create jobs those jobs only have to be temporary, but when republicans support something that they claim will create jobs those jobs have to be permanent?
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I was going to ask the same thing. What the hell is wrong with high paying short term jobs?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
How many permanent jobs is this "great job creator" known as the Keystone Pipeline going to create? 1,000? 5,000? 42,000? 50,000? 500? 100? No its going to create 35. 35 jobs. Thats it.

CNN's Van Jones says Keystone pipeline only creates 35 permanent jobs | PunditFact

What a great "job creator" :roll:
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So based on your measure of "is it worth it?", I assume you and Van Jones also reject any infrastructure work, since the value is only based on the number of resulting permanent jobs.

I'm thinking you both haven't thought this out very well, since it crushes your own message.

I suppose the lesson is, when the foundation is made from soap suds, it's easy to understand why it won't support anything...
 
Henrin said:
Why is it that when liberals propose something that they claim will create jobs those jobs only have to be temporary, but when republicans support something that they claim will create jobs those jobs have to be permanent?
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any link to prove that?
 
What a strange idea to believe in the concept of a permanent job.
 
I do remember when women went to the hair stylist for a permanent job. That wasn't permanent either. I have to say that this coming from an administration that has managed to reduce full time employment to 30 hours a week, the notion of any permanent job is probably lost. I have no idea at all why they would be spouting such a metric in the face of their own policies.
 
Mason66 said:
I am sorry but just for the shear length of it I would think a lot more than 35 people will be hired just for maintenance.
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You would think, but several sources agree on that roughly 35 permanent jobs number--that would be the number of additional employees necessary to inspect and maintain the pipeline over and above what the owners already employ. The real benefit in jobs are the spin off jobs create because the pipeline exists, and that number is impossible to determine--anywhere from a few thousand to hundreds of thousands. But there is no good reason not to build the pipeline.

More information here:
Pipe Dreams: How Many Jobs Will Be Created By Keystone XL? - Forbes
 
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