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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    Barr is an old style Soviet Politburo type from the time Putin was KGB.

    And now we have Trump.

    Putin-Trump and Their Rowers. With Barr pounding the beat and the pace. The logic of it is impeccable. The reality of it is terrible. There are limits however to what will be tolerated by 'em. We keep inching closer and closer.
    Sounds like leftwing jibberish.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    America consolidating the Unitary Executive delivered by GWB you mean?
    You stumbled across some excellent words there -- unitary executive. It's a euphemism of course for strongman leader. Toward dictator.

    Republicans / Conservatives got to love the strongman, er, unitary executive during Reagan's eight years. Reagan's one slipup was when he decided unilaterally to declare "amnesty" for undocumented immigrants in the US. The Right howled and the stunned Reagan backed down right away. The Right cared more about Latino immigrants in USA than they did for Reagan's authority or his charm toward the Right. The Right has been on fire about immigration for decades.

    Still and overall the Right also adored Reagan's strongman, er, unitary executive approach to so many things. GWB was from the Family of War. War does strengthen the strongman leader yet I wouldn't call either Bush a Strongman. If Saddam had been half clever or smart he'd have started correspondence with Barbara cause when Barbara said sit they sat.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sounds like leftwing jibberish.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    I'm confused, we have an AG who is going to declassify information to give Americans a clearer way to see what actually happened to trigger the Mueller SC, isn't that a good thing?

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    You stumbled across some excellent words there -- unitary executive. It's a euphemism of course for strongman leader. Toward dictator.

    Republicans / Conservatives got to love the strongman, er, unitary executive during Reagan's eight years. Reagan's one slipup was when he decided unilaterally to declare "amnesty" for undocumented immigrants in the US. The Right howled and the stunned Reagan backed down right away. The Right cared more about Latino immigrants in USA than they did for Reagan's authority or his charm toward the Right. The Right has been on fire about immigration for decades.

    Still and overall the Right also adored Reagan's strongman, er, unitary executive approach to so many things. GWB was from the Family of War. War does strengthen the strongman leader yet I wouldn't call either Bush a Strongman. If Saddam had been half clever or smart he'd have started correspondence with Barbara cause when Barbara said sit they sat.
    The 'conventional wisdom' is that the Unitary Executive theme and concept was begun by the neocons during the Bush administration. I tend to agree with that analysis.

    I found it amusing that Gunslinger Obama rather enjoyed the mantle and strongly embraced it.

    The Donald seems to like it even more.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sounds like leftwing jibberish.
    As opposed to your standard right wing gibberish? I expect you're an expert by now.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    This is the way a police state behaves BECAUSE we live in a police state. Thank you Mr. Occam!
    One example of police state tactics is the heavily armed swat team Mueller raids on people he intended to take down for political reasons, in the middle of the night with mainstream media cameras rolling. Mueller said nothing about democrats involved in the exact same crime he was accusing his target of, and those democrats were never charged, even never mentioned in his report, as having also committed the same crime.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    One example of police state tactics is the heavily armed swat team Mueller raids on people he intended to take down for political reasons, in the middle of the night with mainstream media cameras rolling. Mueller said nothing about democrats involved in the exact same crime he was accusing his target of, and those democrats were never charged, even never mentioned in his report, as having also committed the same crime.
    Mueller's scope was did not encompass Democrats of the previous administration but of certain individuals that were already under investigation and happened to be members of Trump's inner circle and/or election campaign. The scope given to him also allowed him to pursue or to hand over any other crimes that were uncovered as a result of those specific investigations. The people he went after fell under the scope investigation....which also demanded that he not indict the president as well. He was well within his right to do that under the scope, he got the warrants...that isn't police state; that's following law and order.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Warfield View Post
    Mueller's scope was did not encompass Democrats of the previous administration but of certain individuals that were already under investigation and happened to be members of Trump's inner circle and/or election campaign. The scope given to him also allowed him to pursue or to hand over any other crimes that were uncovered as a result of those specific investigations. The people he went after fell under the scope investigation....which also demanded that he not indict the president as well. He was well within his right to do that under the scope, he got the warrants...that isn't police state; that's following law and order.
    Mueller's democrat attack hid the original instructions for the purpose and scope of the investigation from the public until Barr finally came in and the rats were driven out. The Mueller attack team knew their aim was to take down republicans only and that the investigation was based upon a democrat lie. Serious Justice Department officials are now looking into that Watergate-style corrupt operation.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    This is the way a police state behaves BECAUSE we live in a police state. Thank you Mr. Occam!
    The Democrats ran an unsuccessful coup, and the tide has turned. Now the victims of the Banana Republic Democrats will have their day in court, facing their false accusers. Barr and his prosecution team is building their case, without a lot of media manipulation or hoopla. This is unlike the Soviet style propaganda that was used by the Democrats to railroad Trump for a crime he did not commit, according to Mueller.

    What I have notice is the Democrats tend to project. What they accuse the other side of, usually tells us the nature of their own crimes. For example, the Clintons gained financially from the Uranium deal with the Russians, via huge donations to the Clinton Foundation. This was over a $100Million. The Democrats then blamed Trump for colluding with Russia. It is a clever pathological way to shift the focus of crimes, so it looks like the other side did it. There was not sufficient evidence to indict Trump on Russian collusion. Now Barr will look into the other side, to learn why they projected this onto Trump?

    In our justice system one is assumed innocent until proven guilty. The left assumed guilt, in the Collusion Delusion, even without any proof. This Soviet style justice is used by Dictators and was used by the Democrats. The Mueller report did not have sufficient evidence to begin an indictment against Trump. However, Mueller made the comment he could not prove that Trump was innocent. In our justice system, we do not require the accused prove their innocence. The state has to establish guilt or let the person go free. Mueller showed he was thinking like he was from the old Soviet Union; guilty until proven innocent was important. The Democrats never complained, that this is not how our system works. They seem every content with using the Soviet style. Mueller may have set a trap for the Democrats, to make their show their true colors.

    Another good example is this topic. Barr is looking into the crimes of the Democrats, who assumed guilt until proven innocent. The Democrats will be assumed innocent until proven guilty. Barr has not singled anyone out with any accusations. He is building a case to see if there is sufficient evidence to induct before saying anything. This is how our justice system works. All the Democrats need to do is be transparent like Trump was, if they are innocent. Nobody has been mentioned.

    However, the Democrats and their propaganda wing are making an attempt to interfere and delay the activity of Barr. They would love to put Barr in jail so the investigation stops. This will be called obstruction of justice in the future. This is easy to see since they are currently projecting obstruction onto Trump, Barr and his team. The Democrats have this tell, which is making it easier to hang them. Barr will hold up photos of crimes, and when the Democrats see their own crime, they will blame somebody. Then you got them.

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