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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    You want him to go after the Russians, but ignore the useful idiots, Trump and his campaign members, who the Russians targeted and responded to that targeting.

    This makes no sense. It can only be read as a biased screed.
    Oh...so you support Obama's violations of the 4th Amendment and you support him letting the Russians interfere with our election.

    Dude...your priorities are disturbingly skewed.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    Barr got his job by sucking up to Trump.

    He already had a history of protecting another president, George Bush, from the Iran-Contra scandal.
    Barr, under Trump, still follows the law.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Right. Barr does what the law tells him to do. Which begs the question, what do you want Barr to do? Certainly not what the law tells Barr to do...
    Not lying would be a good first start.

    Telling us “no collusion, no obstruction” about the Mueller report? Seriously? What, he thinks we can’t read?

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Oh...so you support Obama's violations of the 4th Amendment and you support him letting the Russians interfere with our election.

    Dude...your priorities are disturbingly skewed.
    So the Russians are doing it again now. Sounds like you’re totally OK with it.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    So the Russians are doing it again now. Sounds like you’re totally OK with it.
    What makes you think I'm okay with it?
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    If the Trump was honestly wanting to know the truth, he would place an independent investigator in charge and not someone who has already shown to be his biased lacky.
    Who would that magical "independent" be? How 'bout Mueller?

    The reason we are where we are today is lack of anyone trusting anyone else.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    So the Russians are doing it again now. Sounds like you’re totally OK with it.
    Are they buying more FB ads?
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    We live in a police state because there are so many things to police?
    We live in a police state because here in the Land Of The Free and Home of the Brave, there are laws that take away many freedoms, and the police enforce them, right or wrong.

    We live in a police state because police officers are present in virtually every school in the country to assure that students learn to obey authority. We live in a police state because in 9 out of 10 cases, the police can break any law they please and not be held responsible for their actions, will not be liable for their actions. We live in a police state because most juries forgive the police from any crimes they might have committed, on the long shot that the police are even prosecuted by the system.

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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    We live in a police state because here in the Land Of The Free and Home of the Brave, there are laws that take away many freedoms, and the police enforce them, right or wrong.

    We live in a police state because police officers are present in virtually every school in the country to assure that students learn to obey authority. We live in a police state because in 9 out of 10 cases, the police can break any law they please and not be held responsible for their actions, will not be liable for their actions. We live in a police state because most juries forgive the police from any crimes they might have committed, on the long shot that the police are even prosecuted by the system.
    You are right and on this topic, I agree with libertarians completely. We are indeed a police state. The confiscation laws alone prove it. The way they treat black people proves it. The way they are armed proves it. The way they are protected by law proves it. The way they can legally kill any of us by claiming a threat proves it. The way we all agree to allow ICE to run around the nation arresting people proves it. It's disgusting.
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    Re: Is it time to be very afraid?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    A lot of people wanted Obama to investigate the Bush administration's use of torture, but he resisted because it sends us down a slippery slope towards political leaders using the government to investigate their political opponents. This is something we expect from what Trump describes as ****hole countries.

    In light of Trump already claiming that Comey, whose last minute comments about Clinton and her emails helped put him in the White House, is guilty of treason, I would say he brought a toboggan to this slippery slope.

    So, yeah, its time to be afraid.
    Maybe we live in a ***** hole country. We can do better but we stubbornly refuse to. Trump is in essence a mirror of what we project outwards.

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