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Thread: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

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    I think "government control" is just where Trump would like to take us. I do not have complete faith that we won't go back to the 30's.
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    - See something, say something, get called an Islamophobe.
    - The absence of hostilities does not prove the absence of hostility.
    - Legitimate criticism is neither hate speech, phobic, nor incitement to commit violence.
    - I choose my words very, very, VERY carefully. - Jordan Peterson.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    Does religious hate speech get a pass?

    Verse 9:29 of the Qur'an says to fight infidels until they either accept Islam or agree to live under its rule. This is no small thing, because the Arabic word translated as "fight" is qatl ( قتل ). Go ahead and paste that into the online translator of your choice and you'll see it means "kill". That is a direct command from God to Muslims telling them to kill and conquer us infidels. I ask again, does a religious call to commit violence get a pass?

    ??? - Translation into English - examples Arabic | Reverso Context
    - See something, say something, get called an Islamophobe.
    - The absence of hostilities does not prove the absence of hostility.
    - Legitimate criticism is neither hate speech, phobic, nor incitement to commit violence.
    - I choose my words very, very, VERY carefully. - Jordan Peterson.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    Has no one read 1984? Do people not realize what will happen with even the slightest beginnings of the banning of free speech of any kind? Hate speech is similar to flag burning protests, protected by the Constitution but still a heinous act. If you don't agree with the act, the answer is not to take it away, because removing someone's right to choose how to act violates their humanity. Instead, have a reasonable, rational conversation with them; detail the reasons you have for disagreeing for someone. Human interaction causes far more change than does adversity, and much more peaceful change at that

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    Even if you donít like it, itís still protected under the 1st amendment

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all" -Noam Chomsky

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    I am fine with banning Nazi propaganda, as long as we also ban the blacks who call for white segregation, feminists who call for the disempowerment of men, as well as lefties who make false accusations and grotesque insults about Trump. Those are also spoken from a position of hate and can easily cause insult and offense, not to mention violence.

    In fact, while we're at it let's ban meat commercials too. That's hate speech against cows which could offend vegans.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    I agree that in theory ALL opinions should be allowed except for any calls to violence.


    In practice, however, that is NOT going to happen.

    Censorship on the Web will continue to increase in order to prohibit what is considered in the opinion of those persons who own those websites to be "hate speech."

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    Males are visually orientated, while females are more verbally orientated. Science has shown that males use the brain more front to back, while women use the brain more side to side. Men and women are designed, naturally to work as team; brains will criss cross. This allows men and women to cross program each other, so each can learn how to use the other quadrants of the brain.

    That being said, hate speech is more of a female problem, since speech means more to them then it does to males. Males is more about using the eyes to see other visual cues, connected to the sounds and noise of speech. The female is more likely, to ignore the visual cues in favor of just the noises and sounds. This is not always the case, especially if the female learns the skills of visual cues from her dad.

    The left is more feminized, which means lacking development in the visual area, and becoming even more specialize in the verbal area. They cannot see how they generate hate speech, against Conservatives, since they only go by conditioned noises and sounds. To them it is all about the sounds made, and not the visual evidence behind the sounds.

    I can see hate in people eyes, facial expressions and body language. I assume hate speech involves both sounds as well as visual verification. The comedian may say the buzz words but if his body language is light and friendly this is not hate. The left hates Trump. You can see it in their eyes and in their unsettled body language, That is hate speech, to any male who is able to use his visual cortex to see unconscious output in faces and bodies. Females may not be able to see this. They react to conditioned buzz words and noises, only. They will not use their eyes to the degree needed to double check the noise to body language.

    The left has promoted the break up of the family and the limited roles of males in families. To them, males are evil and should not be listened to. They has limited the role of the natural male's visual skills, in terms of showing his children how to use their eyes properly, and not depend exclusively on sounds conditioned for the ears.

    Lib males start with a conditioned neural defect, and have no clue of visual verification. Conservative males have more influence on their children, so they and their children are better equipped to deal with the visuals of body language reality, over purely programmed sound fantasy.

    When I read these posts in this topic, you can see two ways of looking at hate speech, with the left all about buzz words and dog whistles; fetch. The right tries to expand hate speech, to any buzz word, where there is visual evidence of hate in body language.

    How does the more developed perception of the right deal with the smaller perception standard of the left? Treat them like abused children, where the abuse has caused them to shut off part of their brains. Don't let the inmates lead, but calmly try to show them how to use their eyes, so this becomes part of their judgement.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the slippery slope fallacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader13 View Post
    I am fine with banning Nazi propaganda, as long as we also ban the blacks who call for white segregation, feminists who call for the disempowerment of men, as well as lefties who make false accusations and grotesque insults about Trump. Those are also spoken from a position of hate and can easily cause insult and offense, not to mention violence.

    In fact, while we're at it let's ban meat commercials too. That's hate speech against cows which could offend vegans.
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