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    Freedom of Expression

    Although freedom of expression is a very valuable necessity for us Americans, to a certain extent, it is limited. In exchange for protection from domestic, or international protection, we forfeit some valuable rights through the social contract. As I do believe in keeping the government in check, if everyone were to use civil disobedience any time that they believed a law was just or unjust, we would live in a world of chaos, and nothing would be accomplished. If the government is not legitimate through the social contract, our rights are useless. We give up CERTAIN rights. For an analogy, if you were at an office, you forfeit the second amendment, and to a certain extent, the first amendment. We have to accept this because in exchange for giving up certain rights, you are being payed.

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    Re: Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by AMSHEEN View Post
    Although freedom of expression is a very valuable necessity for us Americans, to a certain extent, it is limited. In exchange for protection from domestic, or international protection, we forfeit some valuable rights through the social contract. As I do believe in keeping the government in check, if everyone were to use civil disobedience any time that they believed a law was just or unjust, we would live in a world of chaos, and nothing would be accomplished. If the government is not legitimate through the social contract, our rights are useless. We give up CERTAIN rights. For an analogy, if you were at an office, you forfeit the second amendment, and to a certain extent, the first amendment. We have to accept this because in exchange for giving up certain rights, you are being payed.
    Most Rights are protections of the individual against the government. Not other private individuals. For instance I do not have a right to carry a weapon on someone elses property. But I do have a right to carry that same weapon on/in public spaces or my own property. As the old saying goes, my rights end where yours begin.
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    Re: Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by AMSHEEN View Post
    Although freedom of expression is a very valuable necessity for us Americans, to a certain extent, it is limited. In exchange for protection from domestic, or international protection, we forfeit some valuable rights through the social contract. As I do believe in keeping the government in check, if everyone were to use civil disobedience any time that they believed a law was just or unjust, we would live in a world of chaos, and nothing would be accomplished. If the government is not legitimate through the social contract, our rights are useless. We give up CERTAIN rights. For an analogy, if you were at an office, you forfeit the second amendment, and to a certain extent, the first amendment. We have to accept this because in exchange for giving up certain rights, you are being payed.
    I'm having a bit of trouble finding your thesis. We do have our rights tempered by protective laws for people and we DO demonstrate every time we find a law or policy to be unfair or just wrong: we get permits and he hit the streets; we're not in chaos because of it.
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    Kids who want to end our rights as a stupid reaction to a traumatic event shouldn't be cut any slack. Can you imagine the outcry if some kids who say were victimized by predatory priests came out and demanded laws banning homosexual sex?

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    Re: Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Most Rights are protections of the individual against the government. Not other private individuals. For instance I do not have a right to carry a weapon on someone elses property. But I do have a right to carry that same weapon on/in public spaces or my own property. As the old saying goes, my rights end where yours begin.
    Rights are protections of individuals against other individuals and unfair government policies set in place by groups of individuals. Rights protect people from minority or majority tyranny. YOU do not possess a right to carry a weapon in all public places btw.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Kids who want to end our rights as a stupid reaction to a traumatic event shouldn't be cut any slack. Can you imagine the outcry if some kids who say were victimized by predatory priests came out and demanded laws banning homosexual sex?

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