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    AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    With all the discussion around AntiFa and their opposition to "Freedom of Speech", I figured it might be fun to post what AntiFa is saying. This is from their website, which I checked out thanks to one of our Right leaning friends here at DP.

    https://itsgoingdown.org/liberal-myth-free-speech/

    Now, before this turns into a giant "**** YOU, NATE!!!", I will lead out by saying that I am not specifically condoning, endorsing, or defending anything herein, this was merely to provide context for those interested in knowing where AntiFa stands, so as to avoid talking out one's ass about things they don't really totally know about.

    That said, the author makes some pretty damn good points, and it would be interesting to see it debated, if we can avoid this turning into 50 pages of "AntiFa sucks, **** you!!" "No, Nazis suck, **** you!!" "No, the Left sucks, **** you!!" "No, the Right sucks, **** you!!".
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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    With all the discussion around AntiFa and their opposition to "Freedom of Speech", I figured it might be fun to post what AntiFa is saying. This is from their website, which I checked out thanks to one of our Right leaning friends here at DP.

    https://itsgoingdown.org/liberal-myth-free-speech/

    Now, before this turns into a giant "**** YOU, NATE!!!", I will lead out by saying that I am not specifically condoning, endorsing, or defending anything herein, this was merely to provide context for those interested in knowing where AntiFa stands, so as to avoid talking out one's ass about things they don't really totally know about.

    That said, the author makes some pretty damn good points, and it would be interesting to see it debated, if we can avoid this turning into 50 pages of "AntiFa sucks, **** you!!" "No, Nazis suck, **** you!!" "No, the Left sucks, **** you!!" "No, the Right sucks, **** you!!".
    Pity. The link doesn't seem to load.

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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Can't say I'm really interested in what a group that engages in violence and political intimidation has to say about rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Pity. The link doesn't seem to load.
    That's bizarre... I literally checked out the link a few minutes ago. Now when I google "It's going down", the link to the site now circles back to a google search for "It's going down"... Wow...wonder what happened there. Can you get to itsgoingdown.org?
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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Pity. The link doesn't seem to load.
    Just Google "it's going down", you should be able to find the link.

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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Nap View Post
    Just Google "it's going down", you should be able to find the link.
    Are you able to get there from Google? The link comes up in the search results, but clicking on it seems to circle back to the search results...
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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can't say I'm really interested in what a group that engages in violence and political intimidation has to say about rights.
    You should...it's an interesting read. Plus, I didn't really figure you for the "ignorance is bliss" type.

    But whatevs, just putting it up for those interested. Thanks for sharing your disinterest...
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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    With all the discussion around AntiFa and their opposition to "Freedom of Speech", I figured it might be fun to post what AntiFa is saying. This is from their website, which I checked out thanks to one of our Right leaning friends here at DP.

    https://itsgoingdown.org/liberal-myth-free-speech/

    Now, before this turns into a giant "**** YOU, NATE!!!", I will lead out by saying that I am not specifically condoning, endorsing, or defending anything herein, this was merely to provide context for those interested in knowing where AntiFa stands, so as to avoid talking out one's ass about things they don't really totally know about.

    That said, the author makes some pretty damn good points, and it would be interesting to see it debated, if we can avoid this turning into 50 pages of "AntiFa sucks, **** you!!" "No, Nazis suck, **** you!!" "No, the Left sucks, **** you!!" "No, the Right sucks, **** you!!".
    I agree that he made some good points but he also took those points to reach some ridiculous conclusions.

    What is odd to me is that he is against government while simultaneously against capitalism. It appears we simply have completely different world views but draw similar conclusions as to the root cause to many of the issues we face which is government overreach. A capitalist society is in my opinion the only sustainable economic system that would work with little to no government interference. While I think Anarcho-capitalist are a bit too extreme, I think the ideas behind the view are more realistic than the utopian pipedream that is anarcho-communism.

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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    Are you able to get there from Google? The link comes up in the search results, but clicking on it seems to circle back to the search results...
    I was able to find it, it was one of the articles at the top when I searched.

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    Re: AntiFa and Freedom of Speech from the Horse's Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    You should...it's an interesting read. Plus, I didn't really figure you for the "ignorance is bliss" type.

    But whatevs, just putting it up for those interested. Thanks for sharing your disinterest...
    I don't believe that ignorance is bliss, but I also don't generally give idiots the time of day.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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