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Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

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The speech should be allowed. :yes:

Trying to draw a "bright line" on what can and cannot be said simply because it is either "offensive," or perceived as a inciting ("Hate Speech") defeats the whole purpose behind the right to free expression.

IMO, successfully branding what can and cannot be expressed non-violently will only lead to more and more censorship until free speech is no more than a slogan with no actual liberty for anyone at all.

Calling for the deaths of people because of their religion or race is not "non-violent". It is a poison we can do without. Next you will be saying yelling fire in crowded theater is "free speech".
 
WOW, some people are really thick!!
 
Calling for the deaths of people because of their religion or race is not "non-violent". It is a poison we can do without. Next you will be saying yelling fire in crowded theater is "free speech".

Agreed...

It is one thing to say "I hate the X group because they (insert stereotypical BS)"

It is something else entirely to cry "Kill all the X".
 
An open forum to talk about anything is the requirement that should never be traded for anything.

Nobody controls my mouth but me.

This is a Human Rights Issue.

Mine will not be taken.

Your speech is controlled in this forum, let alone anywhere else. Try saying what you really think/know in the Middle East sub-forum. There is limited free speech here and yet you tolerate the rules.
 
Your speech is controlled in this forum, let alone anywhere else. Try saying what you really think/know in the Middle East sub-forum. There is limited free speech here and yet you tolerate the rules.

I gather that you have never heard my spiel about how the two biggest problems with America today are a lack a fidelity to truth and a lack a fidelity to civility, the two going hand in hand in progressed civilizations. The people who built this gathering spot seemed to have understood this, which promotes a feeling of gratitude mostly, this is better than most other places I have been.










MERRY CHRISTMAS!
 
Nazi doctrine calls for the extermination of Jews and other people deemed "lesser" by White Supremacists. IMO, such speech should not be legal in the US. Period.

I agree that Nazi doctrine and its forms of brainwashing should never be legal in the United States as it is not protected speech. But who are these "white supremacists"? Liberals call anyone who disagrees with liberal doctrines or Islamic doctrines "white supremacists" and "Nazis." Yet its the liberal narrative that has been denying Israel their right to live securely from Hitler's close allies, the Palestinians! A quick google of Hitler and the Mufti says it all. The Palestinians have remained indoctrinated in Nazi ways since then---not to mention that Hitler's playbook against the Jews was largely borrowed from Muhammad.

If someone is concerned about Nazi doctrine then they first need to learn the Nazi ideology before following after the fallacious rhetoric of liberal nonsense. Socialism is socialism whether its communism or Naziism or the Fabian Socialism of Europe. Its all the same and all leads to terrible things like war and genocide. The Jews are targeted by every progressive leader in Europe and now even Canada. The progressive movement is akin to Nazi fascism.
 
I agree that Nazi doctrine and its forms of brainwashing should never be legal in the United States as it is not protected speech. But who are these "white supremacists"? Liberals call anyone who disagrees with liberal doctrines or Islamic doctrines "white supremacists" and "Nazis." Yet its the liberal narrative that has been denying Israel their right to live securely from Hitler's close allies, the Palestinians! A quick google of Hitler and the Mufti says it all. The Palestinians have remained indoctrinated in Nazi ways since then---not to mention that Hitler's playbook against the Jews was largely borrowed from Muhammad.

If someone is concerned about Nazi doctrine then they first need to learn the Nazi ideology before following after the fallacious rhetoric of liberal nonsense. Socialism is socialism whether its communism or Naziism or the Fabian Socialism of Europe. Its all the same and all leads to terrible things like war and genocide. The Jews are targeted by every progressive leader in Europe and now even Canada. The progressive movement is akin to Nazi fascism.

Nonsense. Progressivism is diametrically opposed to fascism.
 
Nonsense. Progressivism is diametrically opposed to fascism.

:lol::lol: Yeah, Antifa opposes fascism :shock: All this silencing the opposition that progressives do is fascism. And believe me, I have been in the crosshairs of progressive fascism for quite some time now. Back in 2015 I became somewhat of a celebrity among British progressives, who, with the army of 100,000 strong, decided to attack this America for confronting them about their support for Islamo-fascists in Britain. They spent three months trying very hard to silence me and their attempts to do so were almost successful. But in the process of attacking me they forgot about their political foes in Britain and ended up with Brexit :lol:

Now look what British progressives have done to Britain. They have destroyed its cultural value and much of Britain is becoming an Islamic slum. The list of ills is long and the victims of Islamic rape gangs are completely ignored. And I suppose you approve of Tommy Robinson's arrest which will lead to him being murdered in prison. Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen locked up just for speaking about against Islam. But when it comes to patriots progressives don't care and they silence them and kill them just like they are going to do to Paul, Jayda and Tommy. I've seen the fascism first hand that progressives do and nothing they represent is protected by our Constitution. All I've seen coming from progressives is idiocy, insanity normalized, and the darkest of evil I have ever encountered before.
 
:lol::lol: Yeah, Antifa opposes fascism :shock: All this silencing the opposition that progressives do is fascism. And believe me, I have been in the crosshairs of progressive fascism for quite some time now. Back in 2015 I became somewhat of a celebrity among British progressives, who, with the army of 100,000 strong, decided to attack this America for confronting them about their support for Islamo-fascists in Britain. They spent three months trying very hard to silence me and their attempts to do so were almost successful. But in the process of attacking me they forgot about their political foes in Britain and ended up with Brexit :lol:

Now look what British progressives have done to Britain. They have destroyed its cultural value and much of Britain is becoming an Islamic slum. The list of ills is long and the victims of Islamic rape gangs are completely ignored. And I suppose you approve of Tommy Robinson's arrest which will lead to him being murdered in prison. Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen locked up just for speaking about against Islam. But when it comes to patriots progressives don't care and they silence them and kill them just like they are going to do to Paul, Jayda and Tommy. I've seen the fascism first hand that progressives do and nothing they represent is protected by our Constitution. All I've seen coming from progressives is idiocy, insanity normalized, and the darkest of evil I have ever encountered before.

Antifa isn't progressive. They are anarchists.

There is no such thing as progressive fascism.

You aren't prepared to debate the Duck. Come back when you are ready.
 
They may SAY whatever they like. If they take one step to act on it I want them in prison

Yep, and, how will we ever explain to children how fascists think without them? We need a few of those around to demonstrate just how they are.
 
Nazi doctrine calls for the extermination of Jews and other people deemed "lesser" by White Supremacists. IMO, such speech should not be legal in the US. Period.

Didm't they tell you inciting hate trumps free speech ?
 
Nazi doctrine calls for the extermination of Jews and other people deemed "lesser" by White Supremacists. IMO, such speech should not be legal in the US. Period.

The Nazi's had no problem with the blacks. Just the Jewish and nomadic whites.

They knew that the Jews were not an inferior race but a very intelligent people; and they actually feared them. Which is why they tried to annihilate them in Europe. The nomadic races (gypsies) they found inferior, and also worth annihilating.

The blacks - as they knew them from Africa - were considered an inferior race to be exploited for their mineral wealth and cheap labor. It was that simple, their inferiority was skin-based. Still, the Nazis had a reserved acceptance (with reservations) for the Muslims - mostly because the Muslims were, like the Jews, direct descendants of Abraham.

German youth today have none of these defects indicated above. But, if you scratch deep enough the personality of some of the older German folk you will find remnants of the "old doctrine" espoused by Hitler. Remember, after defeat in WW1 (1918) came a very difficult life paying of the war-debt. Life was not a bed of roses in Germany during the 1920s. Hitler took advantage of that opportunity that both the French and British had figuratively "programmed" with their onerous war-reparations.

Hitler simply stopped making the reparation-payments and used the money to rebuild German manufacturing, which put people back to work. The German population went gung-ho for him and his New Order. All he was doing was "repairing the economy". Little did the Germans understand about the fundamental Nazi hatred of the Jews. (And, admittedly, the German Jews vastly underrated Hitler's motives.)

So, when Jewish families "suddenly started to disappear" from their lives (the Jews were doctors, lawyers ... ie, very talented people) the German population did not say a word. Because what existed in the 1930s was economically better than what had come before in the 1920s ...
 
They may SAY whatever they like. If they take one step to act on it I want them in prison

Dunno, boyz-'n-girlz.

Saying things is believing them, and the intent is often to degrade someone else's beliefs or even person.

There is a fine line between "belief" and "caustic derision". And only a court of law can tell the difference depending upon the circumstance and usage.

Clearly, the expression of a belief needs protection of the law. But, does derision?

Methinks not - not even when employed in humour to sweeten the bitter-pill ...
 
Dunno, boyz-'n-girlz.

Saying things is believing them, and the intent is often to degrade someone else's beliefs or even person.

There is a fine line between "belief" and "caustic derision". And only a court of law can tell the difference depending upon the circumstance and usage.

Clearly, the expression of a belief needs protection of the law. But, does derision?

Methinks not - not even when employed in humour to sweeten the bitter-pill ...

This thread is very old.

And you are very wrong.
 
This thread is very old.

And you are very wrong.

So, that makes everything said "dead wrong"? Because the accusations are "old". Is that your key criteria? So, with that logic, you also believe that Bible - which is MUCH OLDER - is just another interesting bit of folk-lore?

Putin's henchmen never took videos of Trump watching two naked whores in a hotel-room pissing on the bed in which Obama had slept? Quite beyond him, was it?

What planet do you live on? Why do you think Putin do so much to help (furtively) Trump get elected by manipulating opinion on the Internet?

From "The Cut", Q&A regarding what happened in the hotel-room in Russia rented by Trump for the Miss Universe Contest - here: Absolutely Every Single Thing We Know About the Pee Tape

And yes, the Russian secret-service has the Pee-Tape. Which was a common tool that Putin employed to bend people to his will. When he was made PM of Russia by a drunken president Boris Yeltsin, Putin was up against some very rich Russian oligarchs who also wanted the job. So, Putin pulled off a brilliant move.

Putin sent off to a Siberian jail for ten-years Russian mega-millionaire Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky. (Read that bit here.) As soon as he was freed after ten-years, Khodorkovsky skedaddled out of Russia quickly and now lives in Zurich. And all the other Russian oligarchs had understood who was the real-boss in Russia, and they fell into line.

And you intimate that the tape does not exist which, indeed, it may not - but we'll never know till Putin is no longer running Russia. Which is OK too. Another five years down the road.

Till then, given the events, it's best to neither trust Putin nor Donald Dork - they both manipulators of the same ilk ...
 
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It's not extinguishing liberty to quell hate speech, that's an exaggeration. It works quite well in Canada, but that's because as a culture we have decided that hate speech is wrong enough that we will collectively not allow it. Not everyone agrees but most do. All other speech is protected and the government has not used hate speech laws to expand unjustly into silencing other kinds of speech.

Nobody in this country wants to see Nazis or the KKK march. We have decided as a nation that it's not OK. It's the only exception to free speech on the books and it works quite well. So your judgments are kind of irrelevant, based on available evidence.

So, how do you prevent hate speech on the internet if the source is outside of Canada?
 
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