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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    1st Amendment disagrees.... to a point.
    Are you sure?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    IMO, preaching racism and genocide goes beyond the intent of the First, which was to provide an open forum by which to criticize the government. It was not meant for idiots to promote ideas to subjugate or even annihilate nearly half the population.

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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Are you sure?

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
    As long as they do not promote violence against any individual or group...
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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    How long will this Nazi kick you're on last?
    A while. I'm digging into ratlines right now. I'm sure that all I glean from that exercise will spur a thread within a few days. But, it'll probably have to go in CT.

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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Hitler's did.

    Just sayin'
    Hitler has been dead for sixty years. The modern Nazis are just a fangless shadow of a movement clinging to a dismal failure of an ideology. When individual members of that group break the law, we'll arrest them as usual. The rest will just keep talking.
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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    IMO, preaching racism and genocide goes beyond the intent of the First, which was to provide an open forum by which to criticize the government. It was not meant for idiots to promote ideas to subjugate or even annihilate nearly half the population.
    Citation?
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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    IMO, preaching racism and genocide goes beyond the intent of the First, which was to provide an open forum by which to criticize the government. It was not meant for idiots to promote ideas to subjugate or even annihilate nearly half the population.
    And limiting it opens up a dangerous can of worms. Best not to take such unnecessary measures, if you ask me.

    Besides, I use my freedom of speech for a hell of a lot more than criticizing the government, and I'd like to keep it that way.
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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Hitler's did.

    Just sayin'
    Actually a willing audience in the majority did....

    Racism in general and Jew hate in particular runs deep in the blood in Germany.
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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    IMO, preaching racism and genocide goes beyond the intent of the First, which was to provide an open forum by which to criticize the government. It was not meant for idiots to promote ideas to subjugate or even annihilate nearly half the population.
    An open forum to talk about anything is the requirement that should never be traded for anything.

    Nobody controls my mouth but me.

    This is a Human Rights Issue.

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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    An open forum to talk about anything is the requirement that should never be traded for anything.
    The most dangerous speech is the speech to crush dangerous speech

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    Re: Free Speech and Nazi Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    As long as they do not promote violence against any individual or group...
    They are promoting violence though.

    ...white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, and white nationalists are all effectively Nazis, regardless of whether or not they choose to go by that name, according to Federico Finchelstein, a professor of history at the New School for Social Research whose work focuses on the relationship between populism and fascism. That’s because all of these groups exhibit the fundamental traits of Nazism—chiefly racism, anti-Semitism, and the glorification of political violence.
    https://qz.com/1053370/what-it-means...-nazi-in-2017/

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