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    One thing that is obvious to me coming out of the terrible events of a week ago in Orlando is that all the gay bashing and homophobic language in our society contributes to an environment which makes acts like this possible since the perpetrator can rationalize it as somehow justified on a marginalized and outsider group who is openly mocked, scorned and ridiculed by even decent people.

    I would hope we lear a valuable lesson from the 49 people killed and the lesson is one thing we all can do is STOP OUR OWN HATE SPEECH.

    No more gay jokes.

    No more derogatory 'homo' references.

    No more attacks on somebody saying they perform homosexual acts. to demean or insult them.

    No more. Enough is enough.

    I remember being in grade school and there was this boy who was very awkward and had rather large buck teeth and was puny and small and lots of other kids used to tease him rather badly. And I also participated from time to time. And then one day when he stood up to recite something, a kid pulled his chair back and when he sat down he banged his chin on the desk and messed up some teeth pretty badly.

    Now this was a Catholic school and there was hell to pay for that as the boy who did it was never seen again after that day being expelled. And the rest of us were lectured with great severity about what happened and how we made it all possible. And that boy was never picked on again as far as I know since we all say that enough is enough.

    Lets learn from Orlando and each pledge to abstain from homophobic hate speech even if we think its harmless or just teasing or playing around or any other phony justification we can think up to defend its use.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and the solution to the problem starts with each of us.
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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One thing that is obvious to me coming out of the terrible events of a week ago in Orlando is that all the gay bashing and homophobic language in our society contributes to an environment which makes acts like this possible since the perpetrator can rationalize it as somehow justified on a marginalized and outsider group who is openly mocked, scorned and ridiculed by even decent people.

    I would hope we lear a valuable lesson from the 49 people killed and the lesson is one thing we all can do is STOP OUR OWN HATE SPEECH.

    No more gay jokes.

    No more derogatory 'homo' references.

    No more attacks on somebody saying they perform homosexual acts. to demean or insult them.

    No more. Enough is enough.

    I remember being in grade school and there was this boy who was very awkward and had rather large buck teeth and was puny and small and lots of other kids used to tease him rather badly. And I also participated from time to time. And then one day when he stood up to recite something, a kid pulled his chair back and when he sat down he banged his chin on the desk and messed up some teeth pretty badly.

    Now this was a Catholic school and there was hell to pay for that as the boy who did it was never seen again after that day being expelled. And the rest of us were lectured with great severity about what happened and how we made it all possible. And that boy was never picked on again as far as I know since we all say that enough is enough.

    Lets learn from Orlando and each pledge to abstain from homophobic hate speech even if we think its harmless or just teasing or playing around or any other phony justification we can think up to defend its use.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and the solution to the problem starts with each of us.
    Hmmmmm...I'm not sure you understand what hate speech is.
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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One thing that is obvious to me coming out of the terrible events of a week ago in Orlando is that all the gay bashing and homophobic language in our society contributes to an environment which makes acts like this possible since the perpetrator can rationalize it as somehow justified on a marginalized and outsider group who is openly mocked, scorned and ridiculed by even decent people.

    I would hope we lear a valuable lesson from the 49 people killed and the lesson is one thing we all can do is STOP OUR OWN HATE SPEECH.

    No more gay jokes.

    No more derogatory 'homo' references.

    No more attacks on somebody saying they perform homosexual acts. to demean or insult them.

    No more. Enough is enough.

    I remember being in grade school and there was this boy who was very awkward and had rather large buck teeth and was puny and small and lots of other kids used to tease him rather badly. And I also participated from time to time. And then one day when he stood up to recite something, a kid pulled his chair back and when he sat down he banged his chin on the desk and messed up some teeth pretty badly.

    Now this was a Catholic school and there was hell to pay for that as the boy who did it was never seen again after that day being expelled. And the rest of us were lectured with great severity about what happened and how we made it all possible. And that boy was never picked on again as far as I know since we all say that enough is enough.

    Lets learn from Orlando and each pledge to abstain from homophobic hate speech even if we think its harmless or just teasing or playing around or any other phony justification we can think up to defend its use.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and the solution to the problem starts with each of us.
    It is true that hate speech--real hate speech which does not necessarily include politically incorrect speech--should be socially reviled. We should teach our children to have courage to allow--not condone, not agree with, but allow--others to be who and what they are so long as they do not violate the rights of others. And we should teach our children to be kind to all in all circumstances. And we should all lead by example including our interactions on message boards.

    This we should do as civilized sentient beings.

    But no part of that would have dissuaded a Islamic extremist bent on murder from doing murder when he had opportunity to do so.
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    So I can't say, "He left home because he didn't like the way he was being reared, but came back because he couldn't leave his little brothers behind"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Hmmmmm...I'm not sure you understand what hate speech is.
    Oh but I do. And enough is enough.

    Can you explain me the positive assets of making gay jokes or accusing people of homosexual activities simply to demean them? How is that not hateful?
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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No more gay jokes.
    Eh, I don't really find gay jokes all that reprehensible. I usually tend to get a good laugh out of 'em.
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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One thing that is obvious to me coming out of the terrible events of a week ago in Orlando is that all the gay bashing and homophobic language in our society contributes to an environment which makes acts like this possible since the perpetrator can rationalize it as somehow justified on a marginalized and outsider group who is openly mocked, scorned and ridiculed by even decent people.

    I would hope we lear a valuable lesson from the 49 people killed and the lesson is one thing we all can do is STOP OUR OWN HATE SPEECH.

    No more gay jokes.

    No more derogatory 'homo' references.

    No more attacks on somebody saying they perform homosexual acts. to demean or insult them.

    No more. Enough is enough.

    I remember being in grade school and there was this boy who was very awkward and had rather large buck teeth and was puny and small and lots of other kids used to tease him rather badly. And I also participated from time to time. And then one day when he stood up to recite something, a kid pulled his chair back and when he sat down he banged his chin on the desk and messed up some teeth pretty badly.

    Now this was a Catholic school and there was hell to pay for that as the boy who did it was never seen again after that day being expelled. And the rest of us were lectured with great severity about what happened and how we made it all possible. And that boy was never picked on again as far as I know since we all say that enough is enough.

    Lets learn from Orlando and each pledge to abstain from homophobic hate speech even if we think its harmless or just teasing or playing around or any other phony justification we can think up to defend its use.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and the solution to the problem starts with each of us.
    I think this is something all good people attempt to curb

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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Oh but I do. And enough is enough.

    Can you explain me the positive assets of making gay jokes or accusing people of homosexual activities simply to demean them? How is that not hateful?
    Jokes don't hurt anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Jokes don't hurt anybody.
    words can cut deeper than a knife

    when someone is the butt of a joke and ridicule, it is abuse if they are not strong enough to take it

    learning to live with it by toughening up is not a bad thing, but how do you know that you aren't the 90th person to ridicule them that day?

    you don't

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    Re: Pledge: no more HATE SPEECH

    Freedom of speech, if it's about stopping hate why not cease with labeling people of faith as "bigots" or to hate those that disagree with the LGBT or even the typical promiscuous straight community on their sexual ethics? It's just as much a deed of hate to mock people of faith, apply labels to them out of spite (like bigot, etc), and act holier-than-thou towards those that hold different morals regarding sex and the family. I'm all for not mocking people based on their orientation, but the love and respect should go both ways.

    Then again, I also oppose hate speech laws, someone taking offense and branding something as "hate" should not be grounds to infringe upon ones freedom of speech.
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