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    Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    It's not just soda: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk - CNN

    Many sugar-sweetened beverages have little to no nutritional value and lots of calories, and their harmful health effects have been well-documented. Now, a study links drinking too many sugary beverages -- and even 100% natural fruit juices -- to an increased risk of early death. Specifically, drinking an excessive amount of fruit juice could lead to an increased risk of premature death ranging from 9% to 42%, according to the study, published Friday in the journal JAMA Network Open.

    Overall, the sugars found in orange juice, although naturally occurring, are pretty similar to the sugars added to soda and other sweetened beverages, the study suggests.

    "Sugary beverages, whether soft drinks or fruit juices, should be limited," Jean A. Welsh, a co-author of the study and an assistant professor in the Department of Pediatrics at Emory University in Atlanta, wrote in an email.
    Well I rarely drink soda anymore, but now fruit juice as well? Hmmm...

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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

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    Well, what do you want to do? Be the guy who "lives the longest" or be the guy who thoroughly enjoys each day of life he lives?

    It's nobody else's business which you choose, and there're consequences concomitant with each choice (or a blend of the two). So long as you are okay with the consequences, it doesn't matter which "guy" you endeavor to be. Just don't kid yourself into thinking you're "this guy" when the fact of the matter is that you're "that guy."

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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I typically don't touch fruit juice or soda. Even when I was a kid sugary drinks made me nauseated so I'm naturally repulsed by it. Probably why I've never had a cavity.

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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Well I rarely drink soda anymore, but now fruit juice as well? Hmmm...
    OK. That seals it. Beer only. Maybe some Ale, a bit o'rum. Oh yeah, I almost forgot tea and coffee.
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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    Excess sugar leads to diabetes, so this strikes me as being fairly obvious.

    Problem is, sugar is packed into pretty much all processed foods.
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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    moderation in all things. ... The essential thought is found in the work of the Greek poet Hesiod (c.700 bc), 'observe due measure; moderation is best in all things', and of the Roman comic dramatist Plautus (c.250–184 bc), 'moderation in all things is the best policy.'- Encycpopedia.com


    Check the ingredients on fruit juice.


    ....and read the three paras on “Processing!”

    Juice - Wikipedia
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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    The "experts" have at least two sincere points of view on this subject.


    1. "If you overdose on fructose in a liquid, the liver gets overwhelmed. … Eating fruit is fine. Drinking juice is not."

    a. The considered opinion of Dr. Robert Lustig, pediatric endocrinologist. (Los Angeles Times, 11/08/2009.)


    2. "It is simply untrue to say that 100% fruit juice poses the same obesity-related health risks as soft drinks. High fructose corn syrup-based soft drinks contain more sugar than their juice counterparts, and they lack the fiber [my emphasis] found in most fresh fruit juices. Moreover, most fresh juices have significant amounts of necessary nutrients, including potassium, vitamins C and A, iron and calcium, unlike soft drinks."





    a. The considered opinion of someone (Sorry. I neglected to record the person's name) who replied in the Times on 11/20/2009.





    3. I drink (frozen) orange juice daily, but I try to limit myself to one generous cup.

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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    The "experts" have at least two sincere points of view on this subject.


    1. "If you overdose on fructose in a liquid, the liver gets overwhelmed. … Eating fruit is fine. Drinking juice is not."

    a. The considered opinion of Dr. Robert Lustig, pediatric endocrinologist. (Los Angeles Times, 11/08/2009.)


    2. "It is simply untrue to say that 100% fruit juice poses the same obesity-related health risks as soft drinks. High fructose corn syrup-based soft drinks contain more sugar than their juice counterparts, and they lack the fiber [my emphasis] found in most fresh fruit juices. Moreover, most fresh juices have significant amounts of necessary nutrients, including potassium, vitamins C and A, iron and calcium, unlike soft drinks."





    a. The considered opinion of someone (Sorry. I neglected to record the person's name) who replied in the Times on 11/20/2009.





    3. I drink (frozen) orange juice daily, but I try to limit myself to one generous cup.
    The amount of fiber in fruit juice is pretty minimal. You’d get a whole lot more if you just ate the fruit.
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    Re: Drinking too much fruit juice (or any sugary drink) linked to premature death risk

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Excess sugar leads to diabetes, so this strikes me as being fairly obvious.

    Problem is, sugar is packed into pretty much all processed foods.
    Excess dietary sugars can lead to diabetes, yet for some people, it is not a problem. Even with obesity. On the other hand a hidden culprit is lipids, fats. When the body stores fats, they are converted to blood sugars as a necessary energy source. Excess dietary sugars are often converted to fats for storage. More problematic may be the common cold and similar viruses, which are being identified as attacking the pancreas, reducing the quality of insulin produced, the chemical which helps us metabolize blood sugars. The older we get, the more often we have suffered colds and similar viral attacks, the less efficient the pancreas, the less efficient our insulin.

    Choosing dietary sugars which are usually metabolized more easily can make a difference. There are significant molecular structures between different sugars. Cane sugar, honey, maple in unadulterated syrup form, have 1-3 less molecules than corn syrup, molasses, beet sugar, among others, and taste sweeter, also translating into lower usage as well as more efficient metabolization. Sugars in fruit accompanied by high fiber, like apples, pears, even peaches are cleansed from the digestive tract prior to metabolization, lowering their effect on blood sugar levels. Tart berries, like blue, black, also are high fiber, high enough so that blood sugar levels are barely effected. Yet when served as juice, without the fiber content, blood sugar levels will rise exponentially.

    Keeping lipid intake moderate will also keep blood sugar levels lower. However, lower levels of both lipids and blood sugars can also be dangerous for our systems. Both have their purposes, whether for absorbing fat soluble nutrients and vitamins, or providing necessary energy. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Medical scientists are also currently arguing about blood sodium levels. For decades cardiologists have been advising patients to keep their sodium levels down, and the same for doctors with patients suffering from arthritis, gout and other inflammatory issues. Now evidence is showing a higher ratio of cardiac events, fatal events, for those with lower sodium levels. Moderation may be the key, yet what ranges are moderate is a question yet to be answered.

    The more we learn about ourselves, the less we know.

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