How has your opinion of Keurig changed?

Holy Crap....in the Holiday Savings advert Costco has a GE refrigerator with a K-KRAP dispenser in the freezer door......

Crazy.

Hawkeye10 said:

From start to now, anyway you want to talk about.

I get really high end Starbucks cups now, so long as I keep the machine clean of deposits and bacteria and algae it ain't too bad.

I still call it K-KRAP though.





What say U?

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Love ours. It's over 9 years old and works like a champ. I read the sky is falling articles about all the bacteria and mildew that collects inside so I ran vinegar through it. It came out crystal clear not the disgusting greenish brown the article claimed. At home we use the reusable cups so no waste. The mr and I drink coffee at different times during the day. I like getting a hot, fresh cup of coffee every time rather than pour some sludge that's been sitting around. If we're both going to have coffee then we use the French Press. But even then we only make two cups at a time. At work I use Newmans Own kcups. If I have to drink coffee from a traditional coffeemaker I need to pour it into my cup within a minute of it finishing brewing.

RetiredUSN said:

OK.....to me, my $1.79 WaWa black Hazelnut is about the best deal out there on quality/taste.

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Wawa coffee is great. I didn't realize they had ventured that far south.

Groogrux said:

Love ours. It's over 9 years old and works like a champ. I read the sky is falling articles about all the bacteria and mildew that collects inside so I ran vinegar through it. It came out crystal clear not the disgusting greenish brown the article claimed. At home we use the reusable cups so no waste. The mr and I drink coffee at different times during the day. I like getting a hot, fresh cup of coffee every time rather than pour some sludge that's been sitting around. If we're both going to have coffee then we use the French Press. But even then we only make two cups at a time. At work I use Newmans Own kcups. If I have to drink coffee from a traditional coffeemaker I need to pour it into my cup within a minute of it finishing brewing.

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The one I have is about 5 years old and the problem re bacteria and algae I have has to do with the "fresh" water tank. I continually have issues with this because the water temp is so warm, for no reason except bad design. The recommended is flush everything with full strength vinegar every three months, and I most certainly do that now, rinsing the reservoir at each fill, even with hot tap water, is not enough.

Hawkeye10 said:

The one I have is about 5 years old and the problem re bacteria and algae I have has to do with the "fresh" water tank. I continually have issues with this because the water temp is so warm, for no reason except bad design. The recommended is flush everything with full strength vinegar every three months, and I most certainly do that now, rinsing the reservoir at each fill, even with hot tap water, is not enough.

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They have definitely gone through some growing pains. Mine is a first generation. It was recalled due to the obnoxious noise it makes when filling and brewing. The last generation was a joke too. Did they really think they'd get away with only brewing Keurig brand cups?

Groogrux said:

Wawa coffee is great. I didn't realize they had ventured that far south.

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There is a Wawa clear down by Disney World in Lake Buena Vista (Orlando).

Hawkeye10 said:

From start to now, anyway you want to talk about.

I get really high end Starbucks cups now, so long as I keep the machine clean of deposits and bacteria and algae it ain't too bad.

I still call it K-KRAP though.





What say U?

:2wave:

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Overpriced and causes too much trash that isn't recyclable. And per cup, the price for a cup of coffee is exorbitant.

A cheaper and good tasting alternative is to buy one of these:



I take a shower, start a pot of coffee while I'm getting ready, and within 10 minutes I have a pot of delicious coffee. If you start with a decent quality of coffee, percolated coffee is deep, rich, and mellow. Way better than a drip coffeemaker or keurig.

And zero trash. It doesn't require filters and you can compost the coffee grounds

Plus, it's stainless steel and practically unbreakable. You can throw that sucker in the dishwasher and never have to worry about black mold in your coffee like you do with a keurig.

A keurig is designed to make you overspend on coffee for the life of the device. It's genius as a marketing ploy, but bad for you and the environment in every possible way. Just say no and go back to basics.

Hawkeye10 said:

My brother's wife is pretty much done going to EUROPE..too much trouble getting ice for her drinks.

Note: There is no point to this story, I am bored..20 minutes to go.

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That's so pathetic. We went to Portugal this summer, it was so much fun. The Portugese people really enjoy life much more than we do.

Nope...not changed in the least...I didn't buy into the hype when it came out and I still don't...overpriced and underperforms...I like making a pot at time...what serious coffee drinker only drinks one cup?:coffeepap

beefheart said:

Keurig is crap.

Aeropress is the best way to make home coffee. Why settle for coffee that was ground up months ago?

You grind it, then make the coffee right afterwards, no exceptions.

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Thanks for the tip! :thumbs:

Used a coupon to buy one yesterday ($24), and it's really perfect for me. Makes 1 cup at a time, only takes a couple minutes, tastes far better than Keurig, and cleanup takes <10 seconds. Push out the coffee grinds and paper filter into compost pail, rinse with water.

It will take a week or two to get the hang of stopping the teapot at the right temp for brewing, but still couldn't be easier, and for my taste it's perfect. Less acidity because of the short brew time, clean but full taste, no grinds in the coffee. I can see me using this nearly exclusively going forward and I'd never heard of it till you mentioned it. Awesome.

JasperL said:

Thanks for the tip! :thumbs:

Used a coupon to buy one yesterday ($24), and it's really perfect for me. Makes 1 cup at a time, only takes a couple minutes, tastes far better than Keurig, and cleanup takes <10 seconds. Push out the coffee grinds and paper filter into compost pail, rinse with water.

It will take a week or two to get the hang of stopping the teapot at the right temp for brewing, but still couldn't be easier, and for my taste it's perfect. Less acidity because of the short brew time, clean but full taste, no grinds in the coffee. I can see me using this nearly exclusively going forward and I'd never heard of it till you mentioned it. Awesome.

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It really makes amazing coffee. Tips: Don't boil the water, get it around 195-200 degrees, also, I use a chopstick to agitate the mixture, works better than the paddle they have, and easier to clean. The right amount of agitation leads to having that nice oily sheen on top. And, if you don't add more water, you have a nice espresso! You can also order a permanent metallic filter that works great instead of using the paper filters.

There are a lot of aeropress fanatics out there with all kinds of hacks: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/04/14/399337724/how-aeropress-fans-are-hacking-their-way-to-a-better-cup-of-coffee

A few months back we went to a nice little Ethiopian restaurant in town. We ordered the special coffee, wow. They come out with the raw coffee beans for us to inspect, then they went back into the kitchen, made all kinds of noises, and came back out with the beans sizzling in a cast iron skillet for us to approve. Then they went back and grounded up the beans and made a big pot of coffee, in a beautiful Ethiopian carafe, along with a box that had hot charcoal coals and a bowl full of incense to sprinkle on the coals. The coffee was amazing..and we were bouncing off the ceiling for a few hours from the caffeine we mainlined. So damned good.

That being said, I've been doing a lot of tea lately, I have a fantastic black tea from Ahmad with pieces of dried apple in it, and another with pieces of passion fruit and peach. So good.

Also, I just discovered a new banana bud yesterday....hope we don't have a frost this winter.

Every coffee maker used by coffee drinkers needs to be descaled on a regular basis, not only to rid the maker of bacterial or algae, but to remove minerals from the water that effect the taste of what you are drinking. You can use commercial descaling compounds that come in powdered form, or just run it through a cycle of white vinegar, and then rinse thoroughly with clean water a few times. I descale my drip system as well as my French press every 20-30 uses. Don't use ammonia. It is a base which creates ammonium ions and hydroxide ions, aka toxins and carcinogens that effect RNA creation. Ammonia should never be used to clean food preparation or serving vessels, in itself toxic when ingested in any amounts, including trace amounts over time. It will cause liver, kidney and exocrine glands, like those found in the pancreas, cellular breakdowns.

Here are some "connoisseur" "facts" about making coffee. The optimum temperature for brewing coffee is 185 degrees Fahrenheit, the only home use drip machines that attain that temperature as far as I know are Bunn and Bonavista. Bunn machines keep water at 185 degrees 24/7 and the reservoir must be replenished after each use. It is expensive to buy and expensive to use, but those who own them, swear by them. The Bonavista's are no frills machines, an on switch and automatic shutoff after 15-20 minutes. No programming buttons to go wrong. They do not keep coffee hot even with steel thermal carafes. It helps to preheat steel thermal carafes with hot tap water. Their machines are fairly priced. Both have cult followings, and both make dependable machines.

Connoisseurs claim blooming coffee as part of the brewing makes for the best coffee. That means wetting down the grounds with the first ounce or so of heated water for a few minutes before continuing the brewing process. No drip machine allows for blooming, and certainly no keurig type machine allows for blooming. It is a method I use habitually with my French press, and I believe it does brew a better cup of coffee. Not a necessity for a good cup, and even if not true, some of us convince ourselves it is true and enjoy the rigamarole. My grandkids call it grandpa's stupid kewl factor. My Honey just mutters "Stupid old man, better have my coffee ready when I want it."

And avoid antique tin or copper coffee machines, especially those fancy Italian and French espresso machines. They were made with lead sealed seams. They do make fancy decorative planters. Like lead and tin, copper is a reactive metal and leaches into heated liquids. So much for fancy copper pots that require endless polishing.

Please pass me the Danish dish. Tho I'd prefer some of those Austro-Hungarian cream and honey pastries.

beefheart said:

A few months back we went to a nice little Ethiopian restaurant in town. We ordered the special coffee, wow. They come out with the raw coffee beans for us to inspect, then they went back into the kitchen, made all kinds of noises, and came back out with the beans sizzling in a cast iron skillet for us to approve. Then they went back and grounded up the beans and made a big pot of coffee, in a beautiful Ethiopian carafe, along with a box that had hot charcoal coals and a bowl full of incense to sprinkle on the coals. The coffee was amazing..and we were bouncing off the ceiling for a few hours from the caffeine we mainlined. So damned good.

That being said, I've been doing a lot of tea lately, I have a fantastic black tea from Ahmad with pieces of dried apple in it, and another with pieces of passion fruit and peach. So good.

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Some believe Ethiopia is where coffee originated. It's tradition to leave 2 roasted beans aside on a plate for each cup of coffee consumed, for the indulgence of the coffee angels sent by Elijah to bless the beverage. Me, I just never step on sidewalk cracks.

beefheart said:

It really makes amazing coffee. Tips: Don't boil the water, get it around 195-200 degrees, also, I use a chopstick to agitate the mixture, works better than the paddle they have, and easier to clean. The right amount of agitation leads to having that nice oily sheen on top. And, if you don't add more water, you have a nice espresso! You can also order a permanent metallic filter that works great instead of using the paper filters.

There are a lot of aeropress fanatics out there with all kinds of hacks: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/04/14/399337724/how-aeropress-fans-are-hacking-their-way-to-a-better-cup-of-coffee

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Thanks! Obviously I'm still learning, don't even understand the terms in that article, but the good thing is you can take the simplest approach possible - add coffee, pour water over it, stir, wait a few seconds, press it out slowly - and it's still really good and far better than I was getting from Keurig. Look forward to playing around with various approaches.

Like I said, I've never been a coffee snob or anything, but better is better and if you can make FAR better coffee very simply and very quickly, why not?

The only immediate problem is the only coffee grinder I have is the little blade grinder I use for grinding flaxseed for smoothies many mornings. It works for coffee, but I can see having to invest in a real coffee grinder at some point.

JasperL said:

Thanks! Obviously I'm still learning, don't even understand the terms in that article, but the good thing is you can take the simplest approach possible - add coffee, pour water over it, stir, wait a few seconds, press it out slowly - and it's still really good and far better than I was getting from Keurig. Look forward to playing around with various approaches.

Like I said, I've never been a coffee snob or anything, but better is better and if you can make FAR better coffee very simply and very quickly, why not?

The only immediate problem is the only coffee grinder I have is the little blade grinder I use for grinding flaxseed for smoothies many mornings. It works for coffee, but I can see having to invest in a real coffee grinder at some point.

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Costco usually has burr grinders that don't cost much, they are really good at getting different sizes of grind. I have portable blade chopper that I used to use, but now I use it to make moringa powder. I have a moringa tree that puts out so many leaves, I give them to friends and use some myself. Health food stores will charge you an arm and a leg for moringa powder.

My wife is a hairstylist, and works out of our home, so she has a Keurig machine, and sometimes, occasionally when in a hurry, I'll get into it. Sometimes I feel like something different... Green Mountain has a blueberry flavored coffee that is surprisingly awesome from time to time.

However. Fresh ground, properly brewed is always better, but the real piss off was when they went to Keurig 2.0, and suddenly all the old k-cups didn't work anymore. The pain in the ass involved with defeating the sensor that can tell if your k-kup is for 2.0 is enough to make me skip it, and if it wasn't for the fact that my wife uses it for her business, I would have boxed the thing up and sent it back to the company, with a blown up picture of my middle finger taped to the front.

My girlfriend gets all up in arms over product Owners or Manufacturers political crap, Its a great coffee maker I have 2 of them!

beefheart said:

Keurig is crap.

Aeropress is the best way to make home coffee.

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I got one those for Christmas. I like it.Its kind of like a mini french press and a syringe combined into one.

Why settle for coffee that was ground up months ago?

You grind it, then make the coffee right afterwards, no exceptions.

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I feel the same way about pepper corns. The ground pepper in the store has lost most of it's oils that gives it flavor so you are just getting heat and little flavor with the store bought ground pepper. Pepper corns on other hand have a lot of the theirs oil and other stuff it in so you get a much better flavor when you freshly grind it. So I understand why buying whole coffee beans and grinding them at home is much better than buying the already ground coffee at the store.

Percolator all the way.

Self-ground whole beans.

They're alright. Never liked nor hated the company.

Keurig is absolute garbage. Every one I have ever had, I had to replace.

I spent a little more, got a Cuisinart and it's been going strong for 5 years.

Lots of coffee snobs here. I just chew the roasted beans and drink hot water. Here's the key: Swish the hot water around in your mouth so you don't have bits of coffee sticking to your teeth. If you don't have teeth, you're ****ed and probably weren't meant to drink coffee anyway. Get over it. Drink tea. Just pop the leaves in your mouth...