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THC Oil/Snake Oil?

Rexedgar

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Anyone have any experience with THC oil? Looking at some company called Blue Moon Hemp. Not for sale everywhere.....
 
Rexedgar said:
Anyone have any experience with THC oil? Looking at some company called Blue Moon Hemp. Not for sale everywhere.....
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Yes.....what are you looking to understand?
 
OlNate said:
Yes.....what are you looking to understand?
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Old age aches and pains. Directions are three drops under your tongue, hold for 90 seconds. Also can be applied topically.
Does it deliver? Do you use the Blue Moon product? Seems expensive dollars/ounces....
 
Rexedgar said:
Old age aches and pains. Directions are three drops under your tongue, hold for 90 seconds. Also can be applied topically.
Does it deliver? Do you use the Blue Moon product? Seems expensive dollars/ounces....
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I think that's CBD, not THC. It has its own health benefits, and does not get one high. Tons of info is available online. To my knowledge, it's a front loaded long term plan.
 
ecofarm said:
I think that's CBD, not THC. It has its own health benefits, and does not get one high. Tons of info is available online.
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CBD is on the label. Your too young for any first hand experience......:mrgreen:

What do you know?
 
Rexedgar said:
CBD is on the label. Your too young for any first hand experience......:mrgreen:

What do you know?
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Like 3 drops a day, front loaded a bit. Over $100/50ml.
 
Rexedgar said:
Old age aches and pains. Directions are three drops under your tongue, hold for 90 seconds. Also can be applied topically.
Does it deliver? Do you use the Blue Moon product? Seems expensive dollars/ounces....
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I don't use Blue Moon specifically, but I have used the oil before. Not a fan of the tinctures myself (under the tongue), but I'm not actively trying to treat pain, rather anxiety, plus my THC tolerance is probably pretty high due to my preferred ingestion methods, so on this I'm not a great one to ask, sorry. I do know others who have had great success with the topical creams, though...as well as the tinctures, but always the creams and ointments seem to get good localized pain relief.

Sadly a lot of doctors don't want to understand or recommend this, so you need to rely on the community, and expect a lot of trial and error. If you have a good dispensary near by, they can help as well. Look for recommendations and reviews. Basically, get a few things, give them a try, and see how it goes. Nothing will hurt you, it just might be a bit of an expensive process at first. If you are not interested in getting "high", try heavy or 100% CBD options. Most of these solutions will be primarily CBD at this point, since you don't get high from it, but you get the pain relief.

Also, look for the Leafly app. It helps match symptoms to strains, in case you want to think about that. Good luck, bud, hope you find relief. Hit me up any time, I can help you research.
 
OlNate said:
I don't use Blue Moon specifically, but I have used the oil before. Not a fan of the tinctures myself (under the tongue), but I'm not actively trying to treat pain, rather anxiety, plus my THC tolerance is probably pretty high due to my preferred ingestion methods, so on this I'm not a great one to ask, sorry. I do know others who have had great success with the topical creams, though...as well as the tinctures, but always the creams and ointments seem to get good localized pain relief.

Sadly a lot of doctors don't want to understand or recommend this, so you need to rely on the community, and expect a lot of trial and error. If you have a good dispensary near by, they can help as well. Look for recommendations and reviews. Basically, get a few things, give them a try, and see how it goes. Nothing will hurt you, it just might be a bit of an expensive process at first. If you are not interested in getting "high", try heavy or 100% CBD options. Most of these solutions will be primarily CBD at this point, since you don't get high from it, but you get the pain relief.

Also, look for the Leafly app. It helps match symptoms to strains, in case you want to think about that. Good luck, bud, hope you find relief. Hit me up any time, I can help you research.
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Have no problem getting high. Used to be a everyday toker way back when.......keep waiting for my state to get on board the legalization train. (Virginia) If I could find some THC mixed with camel dung, would be ok! Thanks
 
Rexedgar said:
Have no problem getting high. Used to be a everyday toker way back when.......keep waiting for my state to get on board the legalization train. (Virginia) If I could find some THC mixed with camel dung, would be ok! Thanks
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lol...come on up to Canada, way better delivery methods than camel dung... ;) haha...

It's amazing how fast I'm taking all this for granted up here...hope your state wises up soon, bud. I'm sure you can get your hands on it just fine, but it's kind of nice not feeling like a teenager trying to score a nickel bag just to get your meds...and having access to the right stuff is way better than just having access to stuff.

Don't give up on it, man...probably will be some trial and error, but at least that part will be fun. hehe (Sorry to make light of this if you're in a lot of pain.)
 
OlNate said:
lol...come on up to Canada, way better delivery methods than camel dung... ;) haha...

It's amazing how fast I'm taking all this for granted up here...hope your state wises up soon, bud. I'm sure you can get your hands on it just fine, but it's kind of nice not feeling like a teenager trying to score a nickel bag just to get your meds...and having access to the right stuff is way better than just having access to stuff.

Don't give up on it, man...probably will be some trial and error, but at least that part will be fun. hehe (Sorry to make light of this if you're in a lot of pain.)
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It’s been a good ride; given a crystal ball 45 years ago probably nothing much changes; maybe Trump is right and there is a finite resource of energy and one should conserve so that we all can “live to be 200!”
 
Rexedgar said:
If I could find some THC mixed with camel dung, would be ok! Thanks
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Ecig "top". Don't go over 10w battery or it could fry the atomizer. 4w is enough. 85% THC, $60/g.

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Oil. 85%+ THC, $60/g, requires a coil (costs ~$50). Requires batter with 20w power.

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Vape, no smoking.
 
Rexedgar said:
It’s been a good ride; given a crystal ball 45 years ago probably nothing much changes; maybe Trump is right and there is a finite resource of energy and one should conserve so that we all can “live to be 200!”
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I'm going to live forever because I'm too scared to die... :) Get feeling better, man...go where they let you, if you have to.
 
ecofarm said:
Ecig "top". Don't go over 10w battery or it could fry the atomizer. 4w is enough. 85% THC, $60/g.

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Oil. 85%+ THC, $60/g, requires a coil (costs ~$50). Requires batter with 20w power.

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Vape, no smoking.
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Your first picture reminds me of some “Eli Whitney” pipes I had when still living at home. Different color acrylic plastic and same threaded ends. I could smoke around corners. :mrgreen: One day I came home and they were all gone from the hiding place in my bedroom,; same as all the Playboys magazines earlier. Not like you can go to your parents and say “ have you seen my dope pipes/Playboy magazines around here anywhere?” Just have to regroup and hide them better.....
 
OlNate said:
I'm going to live forever because I'm too scared to die... :) Get feeling better, man...go where they let you, if you have to.
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I think there were some of your mates in BS&T
 
ecofarm said:
Ecig "top". Don't go over 10w battery or it could fry the atomizer. 4w is enough. 85% THC, $60/g.

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Oil. 85%+ THC, $60/g, requires a coil (costs ~$50). Requires batter with 20w power.

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Vape, no smoking.
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I've tried these, and two things:

1) Always felt way more cough-y with them (than using a vaporizer for dry herb). I've read some kinda negative things about long term use of the cheap vape pens these usually come in (disposable)...it's different than the nicotine vape unit I have. I would look into that bit.

2) You can very easily get carried away...lol.... First time I tried one, I was looking around for a space suit. It's just too easy... They told me take 4 hoots, and wait... 10 hoots later, and it finally started kicking in...and by that time it was too late...hehe

That said, these are great for people who have pain issues in their hands...arthritis, etc., as there's no rolling / packing involved. Plus they are very discreet for "out of the house" use. I definitely include them in my toolbox, but every day use is still either an ice cooled bong or a dry herb vaporizer. Mostly the vaporizer, as it's much more healthy. The bong is just the most enjoyable method … love to load it up with some red wine, rather than water, for flavor enhancement. Truth be told, my favorite is still a joint...but that's a rare treat, given that they really are pretty awful if you're a regular user. Between the nicotine vape and the dry herb vape, I'm basically lighter-less, other than splurge nights with the bong.
 
OlNate said:
I've tried these, and two things:

1) Always felt way more cough-y with them (than using a vaporizer for dry herb). I've read some kinda negative things about long term use of the cheap vape pens these usually come in (disposable)...it's different than the nicotine vape unit I have. I would look into that bit.

2) You can very easily get carried away...lol.... First time I tried one, I was looking around for a space suit. It's just too easy... They told me take 4 hoots, and wait... 10 hoots later, and it finally started kicking in...and by that time it was too late...hehe

That said, these are great for people who have pain issues in their hands...arthritis, etc., as there's no rolling / packing involved. Plus they are very discreet for "out of the house" use. I definitely include them in my toolbox, but every day use is still either an ice cooled bong or a dry herb vaporizer. Mostly the vaporizer, as it's much more healthy. The bong is just the most enjoyable method … love to load it up with some red wine, rather than water, for flavor enhancement. Truth be told, my favorite is still a joint...but that's a rare treat, given that they really are pretty awful if you're a regular user. Between the nicotine vape and the dry herb vape, I'm basically lighter-less, other than splurge nights with the bong.
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WTF are “hoots?” I remember “hits,” eco’s “front loaded” comment brings to mind my early experiences with “420”, where’s H10?
I stayed away from pot for a long time. I was known as being “cool” about the other dopers, they were where I was most comfortable......then in about 10th grade, I crossed over. The first and second time, I was like, “what’s the deal here.” And then it all came together............:july_4th:
 
OlNate said:
I've tried these, and two things:

1) Always felt way more cough-y with them (than using a vaporizer for dry herb). I've read some kinda negative things about long term use of the cheap vape pens these usually come in (disposable)...it's different than the nicotine vape unit I have. I would look into that bit.
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The THC oil is pure cannabis oil. No vegetable or poly or such. 15% terps 85% thc (those not mutually exclusive), pure cannabis. The flavor difference is because of the strain. All packages have the strain on them.

Also, that's 4w, not what most people vape ecig juice at.

2) You can very easily get carried away...lol.... First time I tried one, I was looking around for a space suit. It's just too easy... They told me take 4 hoots, and wait... 10 hoots later, and it finally started kicking in...and by that time it was too late...hehe
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I figure the "top" is like a joint and the "coil" is like a bong. One hit from the coil of oil or wax and it's an hour or so.

That said, these are great for people who have pain issues in their hands...arthritis, etc., as there's no rolling / packing involved. Plus they are very discreet for "out of the house" use. I definitely include them in my toolbox, but every day use is still either an ice cooled bong or a dry herb vaporizer. Mostly the vaporizer, as it's much more healthy. The bong is just the most enjoyable method … love to load it up with some red wine, rather than water, for flavor enhancement. Truth be told, my favorite is still a joint...but that's a rare treat, given that they really are pretty awful if you're a regular user. Between the nicotine vape and the dry herb vape, I'm basically lighter-less, other than splurge nights with the bong.
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My lungs can't take smoke anymore, I cough if I do and only rare occasions. And, self serving bias aside, I think the coil is a better high. The "top" is a better high, just not as up there.

I know others that use flower in the repertoire because of cost, but I'd rather take tolerance weeks than cough. I get you can't take tolerance weeks, so that's different.
 
ecofarm said:
The THC oil is pure cannabis oil. No vegetable or poly or such. 15% terps 85% thc (those not mutually exclusive), pure cannabis. The flavor difference is because of the strain. All packages have the strain on them.

Also, that's 4w, not what most people vape ecig juice at.



I figure the "top" is like a joint and the "coil" is like a bong. One hit from the coil of oil or wax and it's an hour or so.



My lungs can't take smoke anymore, I cough if I do and only rare occasions. And, self serving bias aside, I think the coil is a better high. The "top" is a better high, just not as up there.

I know others that use flower because of cost, but I'd rather take tolerance weeks than cough. I get you can't take tolerance weeks, so that's different.
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Do you find you cough when you vape dry herb too? I find that to be the smoothest toke of all...plus way easier to regulate dosage...you just get to "know" how you should feel after clearing a "bowl" (not really a bowl...maybe chamber is a better word).

Again, not talking trash about oil vaping, I just find it's harder on my lungs than the dry herb vape. Of course, eating is the gentlest of all, but good luck achieving accuracy in dosage. I always seem to go between too little and way too much...hehe... Fun sometimes, but not an every day kind of thing.
 
Rexedgar said:
Have no problem getting high. Used to be a everyday toker way back when.......keep waiting for my state to get on board the legalization train. (Virginia) If I could find some THC mixed with camel dung, would be ok! Thanks
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Don't hold your breath. Spent many, many years in Va, and it should be among the last states to get on board.

Some doctors are beholden to big pharma and the usual...pushing pills (prescriptions) or surgery. More profitable.

In the US one must always follow the money. The industrialist wanted marijuana made illegal not because it got people high
but because that wanted hemp banned to keep it from competing with a variety of bldg. products.

Now big pharma is throwing their corp. free speech [sic] (money) at congress to keep the feds from any federal changes
to keep pot from competing with them. States just might succeed in derailing that effort.

Kinda tells you once again what are the real American values. 1) profits, 2) maximized profits, 3) untaxed maximized profits.

The rest is mere conversation.
 
OlNate said:
Do you find you cough when you vape dry herb too? I find that to be the smoothest toke of all...plus way easier to regulate dosage...you just get to "know" how you should feel after clearing a "bowl" (not really a bowl...maybe chamber is a better word).

Again, not talking trash about oil vaping, I just find it's harder on my lungs than the dry herb vape. Of course, eating is the gentlest of all, but good luck achieving accuracy in dosage. I always seem to go between too little and way too much...hehe... Fun sometimes, but not an every day kind of thing.
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A $200+ dry herb vape left me disappointed a few years ago, "paz" iirc. Perhaps I'll give it another try. Plus, what about cleaning it. Vaping concentrate is no mess and cleaning is money. If I drop another 200 on a device, it'll probably be a self contained vape unit.
 
ecofarm said:
Ecig "top". Don't go over 10w battery or it could fry the atomizer. 4w is enough. 85% THC, $60/g.

View attachment 67237601



Oil. 85%+ THC, $60/g, requires a coil (costs ~$50). Requires batter with 20w power.

View attachment 67237602
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Vape, no smoking.
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Yes, this is the way to go.

I have some sweet batteries for use with those:



They have a magnetic attachment for quick change, and automatic heating as you draw.

In Oregon the whole 1 gram cartridges that are complete with heating element are as low as $36 which is about 300, 4 second hits.
 
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