Since There Is No Regulatory Body For Supplements, What Is In Fish Oil Capsules?

Carjosse said:

Well you do not need to buy them, they are a luxury product that can do great harm.

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So just kill the market for them is your suggestion?

SocialD said:

So just kill the market for them is your suggestion?

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Unless they want to follow rules, put the consumer first, and importantly stop lying then yes.

Carjosse said:

Unless they want to follow rules, put the consumer first, and importantly stop lying then yes.

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regulate everything until its unaffordable. not a great plan.

SocialD said:

regulate everything until its unaffordable. not a great plan.

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It is a great plan to ensure people's safety in an industry that actively deceives it's consumers and will do anything to make money.

Carjosse said:

It is a great plan to ensure people's safety in an industry that actively deceives it's consumers and will do anything to make money.

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Well just to point out what I mean though.. Canada started regulating nutritional supplements.. the exact same brand, type and amount of vitamin C I just checked is $7.72 in the usa and its 16.00 Canadian dollars ( 12.21 us dollars ) a 58.16% increase in cost.

SocialD said:

Well just to point out what I mean though.. Canada started regulating nutritional supplements.. the exact same brand, type and amount of vitamin C I just checked is $7.72 in the usa and its 16.00 Canadian dollars ( 12.21 us dollars ) a 58.16% increase in cost.

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What is wrong with that?

SocialD said:

regulate everything until its unaffordable. not a great plan.

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Fortunately, regulating everything until it is unaffordable is not anyone's plan.

SocialD said:

regulate everything until its unaffordable. not a great plan.

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Is it better to have cheap but fake products?

I get your point, but it doesn't matter how cheap that bottle of horny goat weed extract is, if there is no horny goat weed extract in the bottle.

I use several supplements for sports performance reasons, and I really wouldn't mind paying a tad bit extra if I could be assured that I'm getting what I am paying for. The type of stuff that I use either works (immediately - like I can feel it) or it doesn't, so it's easy to tell if it is real or not, but when it comes to most so called "natural" products, it's a lot harder to tell if it works or if it is even what it is supposed to be.

SocialD said:

Well just to point out what I mean though.. Canada started regulating nutritional supplements.. the exact same brand, type and amount of vitamin C I just checked is $7.72 in the usa and its 16.00 Canadian dollars ( 12.21 us dollars ) a 58.16% increase in cost.

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Possibly it was already higher in Canada? Seriously though, what's vitamin C good for? It doesn't cure or prevent colds (the #1 reason that most people take it), but if it did, wouldn't it be worth $12.21 (us)?

SocialD said:

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Just do your research. there are plenty of consumer driven ratings and reviews.
Looking for one buy something that has a lot of consumer review..... consumer reports, WebMD, bodybuilding.com and many other resources are out there that have done pretty thorough reviews on several fish oil brands.

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Trustworthy reviews would be the best answer, I agree. But who knows if consumer reports, WebMD, bodybuilding.com are really relyable? Bodybuilding.com sells a lot of this crap, so wouldn't it be to their advantage to give great reviews to the products that give them the most profit? And I suppose someone "sponsors" WebMD, and every other "free" source of reviews.

I prefer reviews made by actual customers, but if the customer hasn't done a chemical analysis on these types of products, I dunno how much value those reviews have, unless the product is something that should produce measurable results (might work for weight loss products or acne products but probably not for liver health because how does a layperson actually measure his liver health?).

imagep said:

Is it better to have cheap but fake products?

I get your point, but it doesn't matter how cheap that bottle of horny goat weed extract is, if there is no horny goat weed extract in the bottle.

I use several supplements for sports performance reasons, and I really wouldn't mind paying a tad bit extra if I could be assured that I'm getting what I am paying for. The type of stuff that I use either works (immediately - like I can feel it) or it doesn't, so it's easy to tell if it is real or not, but when it comes to most so called "natural" products, it's a lot harder to tell if it works or if it is even what it is supposed to be.



Possibly it was already higher in Canada? Seriously though, what's vitamin C good for? It doesn't cure or prevent colds (the #1 reason that most people take it), but if it did, wouldn't it be worth $12.21 (us)?



Trustworthy reviews would be the best answer, I agree. But who knows if consumer reports, WebMD, bodybuilding.com are really relyable? Bodybuilding.com sells a lot of this crap, so wouldn't it be to their advantage to give great reviews to the products that give them the most profit? And I suppose someone "sponsors" WebMD, and every other "free" source of reviews.

I prefer reviews made by actual customers, but if the customer hasn't done a chemical analysis on these types of products, I dunno how much value those reviews have, unless the product is something that should produce measurable results (might work for weight loss products or acne products but probably not for liver health because how does a layperson actually measure his liver health?).

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My point on the reviews is don't buy something unless there has been a lot of review on it. and yes customer reviews are a great way.
For instance, I buy things off amazon periodically. If I am not already familiar with the product I make sure there are a lot of verified purchase reviews on it and I look them over. otherwise I don't buy it.
Sometimes professional information can be useful.
Bottom line is do your homework. because honestly.. the FDA isn't any more trustworthy than any of the other sources. There are a lot of lawsuits against the FDA for protecting drug companies, and also civil suits ( many of them ) for stealing peoples intellectual property.
So yea do your research yourself is my point.

Reviews on supplements are useless. They are anecdotal and completely subject to the placebo effect.

The only way to get any kind of guarantee is to look for a USP label, because that's an independent company that tests products randomly at various levels to ensure that they actually contain what they claim. Anything else, and there's a roughly 30% chance that the supplement contains inert substances like rice filler (this has been tested multiple times recently).

So yeah, our system here is cheaper than places that require testing. But what's the point of paying less if there's a thirty percent chance that you aren't getting anything

Mr Person said:

Reviews on supplements are useless. They are anecdotal and completely subject to the placebo effect.

The only way to get any kind of guarantee is to look for a USP label, because that's an independent company that tests products randomly at various levels to ensure that they actually contain what they claim. Anything else, and there's a roughly 30% chance that the supplement contains inert substances like rice filler (this has been tested multiple times recently).

So yeah, our system here is cheaper than places that require testing. But what's the point of paying less if there's a thirty percent chance that you aren't getting anything

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Not only that, but they may not actually be from customers. Or even as I was reading about the other day, mattresses. The company edits the worst reviews out, leaing only the three-star and above ones. Pages can disappear overnight.