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    Sub forum for meta conversations

    Sometimes the topic of discussion is the discussion itself. These discussions are all over this forum. What is and what isn't whataboutism? How does logic work? What are the boundaries of civility? Etc. Etc.

    These conversations are happening inside other threads. But the middle of a debate is not a good time to discuss the rules of debate, because it leads to motivated thinking in which people take meta positions that benefit their proximal argument.

    A sub forum for these discussions would allow us to have them in a more neutral context, where people of opposing viewpoints could at least agree about how to talk to each other. Over time, this could improve the culture of this forum, creating more mutual respect and understanding.

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    Re: Sub forum for meta conversations

    Quote Originally Posted by Digger View Post
    Sometimes the topic of discussion is the discussion itself. These discussions are all over this forum. What is and what isn't whataboutism? How does logic work? What are the boundaries of civility? Etc. Etc.

    These conversations are happening inside other threads. But the middle of a debate is not a good time to discuss the rules of debate, because it leads to motivated thinking in which people take meta positions that benefit their proximal argument.

    A sub forum for these discussions would allow us to have them in a more neutral context, where people of opposing viewpoints could at least agree about how to talk to each other. Over time, this could improve the culture of this forum, creating more mutual respect and understanding.
    I would suggest trying The Loft


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    Re: Sub forum for meta conversations

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    I would suggest trying The Loft
    The loft is "a place to state your views on a specific subject without the back and forth," which isn't exactly what I'm talking about. I'd like to have debates about how to debate. Can't do that without back and forth.

    The fact that there are a couple of meta conversation threads on the first page of the loft underlines the need for a place to have these discussions.

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    Re: Sub forum for meta conversations

    Quote Originally Posted by Digger View Post
    The loft is "a place to state your views on a specific subject without the back and forth," which isn't exactly what I'm talking about. I'd like to have debates about how to debate. Can't do that without back and forth.

    The fact that there are a couple of meta conversation threads on the first page of the loft underlines the need for a place to have these discussions.
    That's only in one sub forum of the Loft. Back and forth is encouraged in the rest of the loft. What's not acceptable is the usual vitriol that is found in the rest of the forum.

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    Re: Sub forum for meta conversations

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    That's only in one sub forum of the Loft. Back and forth is encouraged in the rest of the loft. What's not acceptable is the usual vitriol that is found in the rest of the forum.
    Ok, I see. Reading comprehension fail.

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    Re: Sub forum for meta conversations

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    That's only in one sub forum of the Loft. Back and forth is encouraged in the rest of the loft. What's not acceptable is the usual vitriol that is found in the rest of the forum.
    excellent meta post

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