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Why is Fox News allowed in the Breaking News forum?

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Khayembii Communique

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The guidelines for the BN forum openly state that a post must contain a "tatic link to an article from a bona-fide news organization."

Fox News isn't a bona-fide news organization by any means. Say what you want about conservative media outlets but by its own admission it's not a news organization.

We already know that it spreads conspiracy theories fit for InfoWars which obviously isn't a bona-fide news organization. There might have been a time when Fox was as such, but that time has long passed.

Further to the point, the guidelines state that articles should not "contain overly partisan commentary and/or are otherwise clearly biased." This is pretty much every single Fox News article. Indeed the entire Fox News website is clearly biased based on what stories they emphasize and spend time on. Several prominent figures have given speeches at campaign rallies for Trump in an act of blatant bias.

How much more blatantly biased and open about its status as "not a news organization" does Fox have to get before it's not allowed in the BN forum?
 
For the same reason that MSNBC is.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
For the same reason that MSNBC is.
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This thread is about Fox News. If you think MSNBC shouldn't be allowed, start your own thread. I know right wingers love equivocation because they have no way of weighing things on their own which requires independent thought and judgment but let's keep to the topic of the thread.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The guidelines for the BN forum openly state that a post must contain a "tatic link to an article from a bona-fide news organization."

Fox News isn't a bona-fide news organization by any means. Say what you want about conservative media outlets but by its own admission it's not a news organization.

We already know that it spreads conspiracy theories fit for InfoWars which obviously isn't a bona-fide news organization. There might have been a time when Fox was as such, but that time has long passed.

Further to the point, the guidelines state that articles should not "contain overly partisan commentary and/or are otherwise clearly biased." This is pretty much every single Fox News article. Indeed the entire Fox News website is clearly biased based on what stories they emphasize and spend time on. Several prominent figures have given speeches at campaign rallies for Trump in an act of blatant bias.

How much more blatantly biased and open about its status as "not a news organization" does Fox have to get before it's not allowed in the BN forum?
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:lamo- Um, OK

-VySKy
 
Superfly said:
Oooh! "I know you are, but what am I?"

Always good to start a debate that way.
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Editorial bias exists in many MSM sources acceptable to DP. Is the statement of facts also bad debating technique in your opinion?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The guidelines for the BN forum openly state that a post must contain a "tatic link to an article from a bona-fide news organization."

Fox News isn't a bona-fide news organization by any means. Say what you want about conservative media outlets but by its own admission it's not a news organization.

We already know that it spreads conspiracy theories fit for InfoWars which obviously isn't a bona-fide news organization. There might have been a time when Fox was as such, but that time has long passed.

Further to the point, the guidelines state that articles should not "contain overly partisan commentary and/or are otherwise clearly biased." This is pretty much every single Fox News article. Indeed the entire Fox News website is clearly biased based on what stories they emphasize and spend time on. Several prominent figures have given speeches at campaign rallies for Trump in an act of blatant bias.

How much more blatantly biased and open about its status as "not a news organization" does Fox have to get before it's not allowed in the BN forum?
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This is unusually lame for you, especially as nowhere in the smarmy, poorly-edited, profanity-laden article you linked to did Fox News "admit" to any such thing -- but if that's your standard of quality, then maybe it shouldn't be surprising after all.

Fox News is lame and blatantly partisan, but it's no moreso than MSNBC or CNN at this point. It's all a sewer. But obviously you can only smell one of them.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Editorial bias exists in many MSM sources acceptable to DP. Is the statement of facts also bad debating technique in your opinion?
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Your post is obfuscation.

Fox has had several prominent people openly promote the President in a blatant act of partisanship. It has admitted to not being a news outlet which would make it against the rules of the BN forum on that basis alone. Its bias is open and unapologetic to the extent of Info Wars and Breitbart. It openly promotes and promulgates conspiracy theories which aren't newsworthy. It isn't like any other MSM source.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
This thread is about Fox News. If you think MSNBC shouldn't be allowed, start your own thread. I know right wingers love equivocation because they have no way of weighing things on their own which requires independent thought and judgment but let's keep to the topic of the thread.
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No, we love equivocation because leftists are unashamed hypocrites with no tethering to any form of principle.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Editorial bias exists in many MSM sources acceptable to DP. Is the statement of facts also bad debating technique in your opinion?
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Does the thread title say "Editorial Bias Across MSM Sources" ? No. It does not.

It's clear that the OP is stating that he feels Fox News (which isn't even considered news, even by themselves) shouldn't be used in Breaking News.

If you want to talk about that, please do so.

If not, expect for others to call you on your shoddy debate tactics.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
This thread is about Fox News. If you think MSNBC shouldn't be allowed, start your own thread. I know right wingers love equivocation because they have no way of weighing things on their own which requires independent thought and judgment but let's keep to the topic of the thread.
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The topic of the thread is "The guidelines for the BN forum openly state..." - using your OP's opening words. Your use of Fox News as an example for it's discussion in no way limits my response to that subject.
 
Superfly said:
Does the thread title say "Editorial Bias Across MSM Sources" ? No. It does not.

It's clear that the OP is stating that he feels Fox News (which isn't even considered news, even by themselves) shouldn't be used in Breaking News.

If you want to talk about that, please do so.

If not, expect for others to call you on your shoddy debate tactics.
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A question was posed and I answered it.
 
Maybe it can be moved to Non-MSM Breaking News.

That way, they can be lumped along with Daily Caller, Breitbart and OANN. Just where they belong.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The guidelines for the BN forum openly state that a post must contain a "tatic link to an article from a bona-fide news organization."

Fox News isn't a bona-fide news organization by any means. Say what you want about conservative media outlets but by its own admission it's not a news organization.

We already know that it spreads conspiracy theories fit for InfoWars which obviously isn't a bona-fide news organization. There might have been a time when Fox was as such, but that time has long passed.

Further to the point, the guidelines state that articles should not "contain overly partisan commentary and/or are otherwise clearly biased." This is pretty much every single Fox News article. Indeed the entire Fox News website is clearly biased based on what stories they emphasize and spend time on. Several prominent figures have given speeches at campaign rallies for Trump in an act of blatant bias.

How much more blatantly biased and open about its status as "not a news organization" does Fox have to get before it's not allowed in the BN forum?
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You should launch an impeachment inquiry against the site owner(s). You've got them now.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The topic of the thread is "The guidelines for the BN forum openly state..." - using your OP's opening words. Your use of Fox News as an example for it's discussion in no way limits my response to that subject.
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You can claim whatever you want, but this thread is about Fox News as it says in the title. Want to make a similar argument for MSNBC? Go for it in your own thread.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
The guidelines for the BN forum openly state that a post must contain a "tatic link to an article from a bona-fide news organization."

Fox News isn't a bona-fide news organization by any means. Say what you want about conservative media outlets but by its own admission it's not a news organization.

We already know that it spreads conspiracy theories fit for InfoWars which obviously isn't a bona-fide news organization. There might have been a time when Fox was as such, but that time has long passed.

Further to the point, the guidelines state that articles should not "contain overly partisan commentary and/or are otherwise clearly biased." This is pretty much every single Fox News article. Indeed the entire Fox News website is clearly biased based on what stories they emphasize and spend time on. Several prominent figures have given speeches at campaign rallies for Trump in an act of blatant bias.

How much more blatantly biased and open about its status as "not a news organization" does Fox have to get before it's not allowed in the BN forum?
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great...we can take out FOX

as long as we take out NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and i can probably add a few others

CNN and MSNBC are the worst...but the others can be VERY biased on occasions

i guess you dont want to hear what other sources have to say though do you?
 
gdgyva said:
great...we can take out FOX

as long as we take out NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and i can probably add a few others

CNN and MSNBC are the worst...but the others can be VERY biased on occasions

i guess you dont want to hear what other sources have to say though do you?
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A conservative that hasn't read the thread. Yet another stereotype proven true.

As has already been said, this thread is about Fox. If you'd like to start separate threads on those then be my guest.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
A conservative that hasn't read the thread. Yet another stereotype proven true.

As has already been said, this thread is about Fox. If you'd like to start separate threads on those then be my guest.
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no...and i read the thread

and SHOW ME where FOX has stated they arent a news organization?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Your post is obfuscation.

Fox has had several prominent people openly promote the President in a blatant act of partisanship. It has admitted to not being a news outlet which would make it against the rules of the BN forum on that basis alone. Its bias is open and unapologetic to the extent of Info Wars and Breitbart. It openly promotes and promulgates conspiracy theories which aren't newsworthy. It isn't like any other MSM source.
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Yes, Fox News also contains editorial and "news analysis" content - that is not, by any means, unique to Fox News. Your objection to the "slant" of such additional content to its news presentation is noted but rejected (by me) as cause to exempt its use in BN threads. I have objected to Fox News or any other source of opinion pieces being presented as BN - on that point we seem to agree.
 
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