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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    We updated an addon today to fix another issue and it looks like this was an added feature. This basically states that your browser is going to another site and the link is not part of Debate Politics, it doesn't appear limited to tinyurl.

    We didn't know this was added and are looking into it.

    Edit: This redirect screen has been disabled.
    Last edited by Schweddy; 02-09-19 at 11:01 PM.
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweddy View Post
    We updated an addon today to fix another issue and it looks like this was an added feature. This basically states that your browser is going to another site and the link is not part of Debate Politics, it doesn't appear limited to tinyurl.

    We didn't know this was added and are looking into it.
    Thanks. Agree with those not liking the feature.

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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweddy View Post
    We updated an addon today to fix another issue and it looks like this was an added feature. This basically states that your browser is going to another site and the link is not part of Debate Politics, it doesn't appear limited to tinyurl.

    We didn't know this was added and are looking into it.
    Makes sense, a security add-on.
    I don't know about political forums but it's possible that a lot of forums would find this to be a useful feature.
    UBB offers a couple of widgets which are somewhat similar and on earlier versions it's tricky figuring out how to disable some of them.
    Good luck!
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Dear Moderators,

    I have observe today that when clicking on hyperlinks contained in members' post, rather than being taken to the webpage the member linked, one is taken to a DP page that displays the following message:

    Warning! The intended destination is not part of Debate Politics Forums.
    If you do not recognise [insert web address the member included] or do not trust the person who gave you this link, close this tab or click the Back button in your browser.

    This is of some concern because to minimize the impact of DP's (ridiculous, IMO) character limit, I routinely replace hyperlinks with a "tinyurl." (If one's not familiar with aliasing, Google "tinyurl.") Nobody is going to recognize a tinyurl. Moreover, were I to instead use the un-aliased web address, I don't think that'd help for who is familiar with the naming conventions used on the myriad websites and servers whereat be found the content DP members reference?

    As for whether one trusts the person who posted the link, how on Earth is any member to trust any other member? Speaking for myself, I don't know anyone here, just as I don't know the vast majority of writers/publishers of non-DP content to which many members link (and that members are required to link to in certain subforums, "Breaking News" especially). Indeed, do members even know with what business they're interacting by using DP? I suspect not, for DP itself isn't transparent about so much as the ownership of the site. A simple "whois" reveals that the site's owners availed themselves of GoDaddy's "Domain's By Proxy" privacy offering (DBPPO) -- IIRC, the DBPPO functionality has been transitioned to a core GoDaddy feature -- whereby the only way one can determine who owns the site is by suing the site. Quite literally and for all we know, DP could be owned by the managers of a so-called troll farm.

    There is too the matter that a ne'er do well can spoof whatever web address they are of a mind to; thus even if the primary domain -- say, abc.com or many others -- is familiar/recognizable, it too can be "dangerous." There's little one can do about spoofed web addresses; however, (1) using an antivirus program and (2) heeding one's browser's warning that the website one's trying to access may be "dangerous" are good ways to reduce one's risk of falling victim to such things.

    That said, using the Internet has always been and remains, as does pretty much everything having to do with life as an adult, an AYOR activity.

    Why has DP adopted a "nanny" nature?


    Accommodation Suggestion:
    The new message inserts an additional step in navigation process. Rather than making the above noted message appear after every click of an external hyperlink, use the model used when members access certain subforums -- the Basement comes to mind -- for the first time or when returning to the site after having received a warning/infraction. Being informed each time they click on a hyperlink seems a bit much, particularly insofar as it interrupts navigation.
    Most sites use that feature...meh.

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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    As for whether one trusts the person who posted the link, how on Earth is any member to trust any other member?
    You can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Indeed, do members even know with what business they're interacting by using DP? I suspect not, for DP itself isn't transparent about so much as the ownership of the site. A simple "whois" reveals that the site's owners availed themselves of GoDaddy's "Domain's By Proxy" privacy offering (DBPPO) -- IIRC, the DBPPO functionality has been transitioned to a core GoDaddy feature -- whereby the only way one can determine who owns the site is by suing the site. Quite literally and for all we know, DP could be owned by the managers of a so-called troll farm.
    Fair question er.. statement. I'll address.

    The reason why Domain by Proxy is used is because I have had death threats over comments someone else made. Several times. So about 7 years ago, we went Domains by Proxy.

    Folks that like to discuss politics are often very passionate. I very much respect that and I also feel it is fair for me to have the same amount of anonymity as we afford all our users.

    We do not advertise, ask for real names, demand a phone number or verify beyond an email address. We are also not tracking beyond anonymous level Google Analytics (meta data is removed).

    Debate Politics is a free forum and we do not profit at all. Nor is there a hidden agenda above/below seeking the truth.

    We literally state our monthly needs and ask for donations to that level and if the bar is full green, we ask you to wait until next month to help.

    As for the re-direct, it has been fixed and was not intentional.
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweddy View Post
    You can't.



    Fair question er.. statement. I'll address.

    The reason why Domain by Proxy is used is because I have had death threats over comments someone else made. Several times. So about 7 years ago, we went Domains by Proxy.

    Folks that like to discuss politics are often very passionate. I very much respect that and I also feel it is fair for me to have the same amount of anonymity as we afford all our users.

    We do not advertise, ask for real names, demand a phone number or verify beyond an email address. We are also not tracking beyond anonymous level Google Analytics (meta data is removed).

    Debate Politics is a free forum and we do not profit at all. Nor is there a hidden agenda above/below seeking the truth.

    We literally state our monthly needs and ask for donations to that level and if the bar is full green, we ask you to wait until next month to help.

    As for the re-direct, it has been fixed and was not intentional.
    TY for the input.

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    Thanks. I truly appreciate that "feature's" removal.
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just a note: I do not click on any tinyurl links. If I cannot see where a link is going to, I will never click on it. If you feel the need to hide where you are linking to, don't be surprised when people don't click through to your sources. The character limit is an incredibly weak excuse for disguising your link destinations, since you have the option of making more than one post...
    FWIW, if you to to Tinyurl's webpage, you can paste in the tinyurl to see to what real web address it resolves.
    1. Copy the tinyurl link (not whatever DP converts it to).
    2. Go to Tinyurl's webpage.
    3. Paste the link into the topmost text box.
    4. Click "Make TinyURL"

    What you'll get is the web that equates to the tinyurl alias.

    For example:
    "https://tinyurl.com/yyjvhscl" resolves to:
    https:--www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/25/full_lou_dobbs_interview_trump_asks_what_could_be_ more_fake_than_cbs_nbc_abc_and_cnn.html

    Note: I replaced "https://" with "https:---" to prevent DP from altering the web address.

    You may think/feel that's more trouble than you want to go through. If that's how you feel, fine; I don't have a problem with your so feeling/thinking. I don't particularly care whether you read content to which I link. I ask only that if you don't/haven't read the content to which I link, please refrain from responding to my posts. By all means post your thoughts, I'm just asking that if you haven't consumed the content to which I've linked, please don't click "reply with quote" on one of my posts.
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    You may think/feel that's more trouble than you want to go through. If that's how you feel, fine; I don't have a problem with your so feeling/thinking. I don't particularly care whether you read content to which I link. I ask only that if you don't/haven't read the content to which I link, please refrain from responding to my posts. By all means post your thoughts, I'm just asking that if you haven't consumed the content to which I've linked, please don't click "reply with quote" on one of my posts.
    You're asking a lot. The true reason shorteners exist is for tracking and 3rd party advertising. It isn't for our "convenience".
    The reason you want us to use them is to see how many clicks you get. Oh no! Cats out of the bag...

    If you want your content read, I strongly suggest do not use *any* URL shorteners and use the link command available to shorten the link.
    Plus, you can call it whatever you want.

    Like Redress, I do not click on them. Well, I can't because I have tinyurl blocked on my home and phone.
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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    There's a character limit?
    I dunno. They let me participate.

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    Re: Moderators, what is up with this message?

    This has been resolved and addressed.

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