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MaggieD

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I posted a political thread in The Loft thinking we might have intelligent back and forth discussion without those of Republican persuasion being referred to as Trumptards, trumpistanis, trumpettes, etc.

"It seems impossible to have civil discussion," Maggie whined.

I posted it having read the rules months ago. Well, it appears my recollection was off base. Perhaps a Mod would delete or close the thread I started. If I get dinged it's my own fault for not re-reading the rules.

But can a Mid tell me? Would The Tavern be a place we could have friendly back and forth? Is it possible The Loft IS a place for that? Is there ANYPLACE on Debate Politics where we can sanely discuss politics where the opposition must engage in civil discussion without riding the infraction line into oblivion?

"Civility is a must" no longer seems to apply . . .
 
MaggieD said:
I posted a political thread in The Loft thinking we might have intelligent back and forth discussion without those of Republican persuasion being referred to as Trumptards, trumpistanis, trumpettes, etc.

"It seems impossible to have civil discussion," Maggie whined.

I posted it having read the rules months ago. Well, it appears my recollection was off base. Perhaps a Mod would delete or close the thread I started. If I get dinged it's my own fault for not re-reading the rules.

But can a Mid tell me? Would The Tavern be a place we could have friendly back and forth? Is it possible The Loft IS a place for that? Is there ANYPLACE on Debate Politics where we can sanely discuss politics where the opposition must engage in civil discussion without riding the infraction line into oblivion?

"Civility is a must" no longer seems to apply . . .
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I have never been called a Trumptard or any variation that you mentioned and I am a Republican. So, maybe you are being too much of a fan girl and people are aptly describing you?
 
MaggieD said:
I posted a political thread in The Loft thinking we might have intelligent back and forth discussion without those of Republican persuasion being referred to as Trumptards, trumpistanis, trumpettes, etc.

"It seems impossible to have civil discussion," Maggie whined.

I posted it having read the rules months ago. Well, it appears my recollection was off base. Perhaps a Mod would delete or close the thread I started. If I get dinged it's my own fault for not re-reading the rules.

But can a Mid tell me? Would The Tavern be a place we could have friendly back and forth? Is it possible The Loft IS a place for that? Is there ANYPLACE on Debate Politics where we can sanely discuss politics where the opposition must engage in civil discussion without riding the infraction line into oblivion?

"Civility is a must" no longer seems to apply . . .
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I been wondering about that myself.
 
ModerateGOP said:
I have never been called a Trumptard or any variation that you mentioned and I am a Republican. So, maybe you are being too much of a fan girl and people are aptly describing you?
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Is Trumptard civil?
 
MaggieD said:
I posted a political thread in The Loft thinking we might have intelligent back and forth discussion without those of Republican persuasion being referred to as Trumptards, trumpistanis, trumpettes, etc.
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Republicans are not the only ones on here that get called names.
 
ModerateGOP said:
I have never been called a Trumptard or any variation that you mentioned and I am a Republican. So, maybe you are being too much of a fan girl and people are aptly describing you?
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No one calls me names. That will earn an infraction. They describe Republicans that way. As I said, they ride the infraction line.
 
When I think "LOFT" I hope for bohemian/beatnik/artist/free thinker....dangerous stuff of course.
 
MaggieD said:
No one calls me names. That will earn an infraction. They describe Republicans that way. As I said, they ride the infraction line.
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I tend to use Trumpkin as a general descriptive term for all those people on the board who blindly support Trump. I often say, "You Trumpkins," when someone just blindly supports the President after he says something stupid. I generally don't call out individual posters unless it's in the basement.
 
ModerateGOP said:
No different than Paulbot or Obama-Zombie. Honestly if you can't take that maybe you don't belong on the internet.
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I have no problem responding in kind. That doesn't make it civil.
 
coldjoint said:
I have no problem responding in kind. That doesn't make it civil.
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Or maybe it's easier than typing "Trump supporters," every time. I don't think supporters is an accurate description either. You guys have way more love for Trump than just plain old support.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Or maybe it's easier than typing "Trump supporters," every time. I don't think supporters is an accurate description either. You guys have way more love for Trump than just plain old support.
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Support is love, at least that is what we have been told, but not by other Trump supporters. Can't we be caring people?
 
I would really like to see the use of terms like republi***s and demo ***s sent to the trash cans. It is hard enough to have a civil discourse the way things are. Starting a conversation with a slur just ensures that no actual discourse will occur. And more than ever, we really need to have a civil discourse. Lord knows our reps aren't having any. They just seem to want to blame everything that isn't perfect, on someone else. We can stop this crap. Just say no to that BS. We screwed it up, we can fix it.
 
ModerateGOP said:
No different than Paulbot or Obama-Zombie. Honestly if you can't take that maybe you don't belong on the internet.
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But you don't have to say that. Personally, I try as best as I can to not use terms like that.

Much easier to have a rational debate that way, you feel me?
 
Grand Mal said:
Is 'libtard'?
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Yeah, that's what I remember. That and Obamabots.

I guess my point is that there should be a place on DP where we live up to our slogan . . . "Civility is a must."
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, that's what I remember. That and Obamabots.

I guess my point is that there should be a place on DP where we live up to our slogan . . . "Civility is a must."
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I agree. Moderating it would be a full-time job, though.
I blame AOL and 'net-tv'. They started it. Are you familiar with the term 'eternal september'? It's used by old Usenet types to refer to the demise of intelligent Internet discussion.
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, that's what I remember. That and Obamabots.

I guess my point is that there should be a place on DP where we live up to our slogan . . . "Civility is a must."
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Is there some DP law criminalizing a petition to management?

Does the opinion of the little people matter here generally?

It does not at my last home, the owner made clear often.

And I have no desire to get thrown out of another joint.

This is me thinking aloud.

:cowboy:
 
Grand Mal said:
I agree. Moderating it would be a full-time job, though.
I blame AOL and 'net-tv'. They started it. Are you familiar with the term 'eternal september'? It's used by old Usenet types to refer to the demise of intelligent Internet discussion.
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I think it'd soon resolve itself. Just moderate reported posts. I've never heard of that expression.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Is there some DP law criminalizing a petition to management?

Does the opinion of the little people matter here generally?

It does not at my last home, the owner made clear often.

And I have no desire to get thrown out of another joint.

This is me thinking aloud.

:cowboy:
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This is me agreeing with you. ;)
 
MaggieD said:
I think it'd soon resolve itself. Just moderate reported posts. I've never heard of that expression.
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Back in the day the internet had three components- Usenet, FTP and the WWW. Usenet was thousands of discussion groups called newsgroups- anything you posted there was called an article. Every September another class of freshmen needed to be educated about the protocols which varied from newsgroup to newsgroup. It was a glorious anarchy, because the newbies were smart enough to know it all depended on being self-policed.
Then came a flood of people who seemed unable to govern themselves, unable to act like reasonably intelligent adults. They destroyed the unmoderated groups by the simple fact that they couldn't be humiliated. Eternal September.
 
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