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Wind of change against leftist media in Germany

Moot said:
Well, I'm a great fan of fighting fire with fire extinguishers. lol

What you call 'conservatives' in Germany, we call 'far right extremists' and/or 'domestic terrorists' in the US.

Heimet...Homeland...Fatherland....

"...The specific aspects of Heimat—love and attachment to homeland—left the idea vulnerable to easy assimilation into the fascist "blood and soil" literature of the National Socialists since it is relatively easy to add to the positive feelings for the Heimat a rejection of anything foreign, that is not necessarily there in the first place. It was conceived by the National Socialists (Nazis) that the Volk community is deeply rooted in the land of their Heimat through their practice of agriculture and their ancestral lineage going back hundreds and thousands of years. The Third Reich was regarded at the deepest level as the sacred Heimat of the unified Volk community—the national slogan was One Reich, One Volk, One Führer. Those who were taken to Nazi concentration camps were those who were officially declared by the SS to be "enemies of the volk community" and thus a threat to the integrity and security of the heimat.[7]..."

Heimat - Wikipedia​

Fortunately, the far right are still a small minority in Germany.
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The "Far right" are a leftist created will o' the wisp...a tiny minority that leftists seek to make bigger than they actually are...and you could succeed because fascist organisations like BLM will probably cause a growing reaction. The left really are the dumb ****s of politics...they never ****ing learn...
 
german hick said:
because you say so?

the Antifa people I knew were all not the brightest candles - but they all have humanistic goals - they want to make the world a better place. Your kind has always egoistic nationalistic goals.

I measure people on their goals
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When I was young Germans sincerely thought the world would be a better place without me in it. So they worked towards their humanistic goal by dropping bombs in my direction and later on firing rockets at me. This has had an unfortunate effect; I am somewhat averse to moral lectures voiced by Germans. You see I measured them of their goals.
 
german hick said:
Antifa literally is anti fascism... really bad terror groups who are against fascism...

they are not my buddies, but if I had to choose....


with your story you might be right - have not the time to proove atm - but reading your hatespeech against "anti fascist" shows us again what kind of guy your are - a victim playing fascist
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Seems to me that the description of fascist (or at least quasi-fascist) playing victim would be more apt.

"Antifa" itself has, of course, long since been usurped away from its original ideas by trying to clothe their often violent anarchism in that originally respected label.

The "black block" that turned the otherwise perhaps legitimate protests at the Hamburg summit into a reign of anarchism has nothing to do with combating fascism, even if that's what it likes to pretend itself as doing. In that process conveniently describing anything and anyone that tries to put a stop to them as fascists. Which would include you and me.
 
Chagos said:
The "black block" that turned the otherwise perhaps legitimate protests at the Hamburg summit into a reign of anarchism has nothing to do with combating fascism, even if that's what it likes to pretend itself as doing. In that process conveniently describing anything and anyone that tries to put a stop to them as fascists. Which would include you and me.
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I´m completely with you on that. I saw them in Berlin when I was demonstrating against TTIP and in Münster when it went against AFD - both times I was ashamed they were on my side of the fence. They might even be violent, but they don´t murder. In no way coldhearted like NSU or similar groups. So yes left extremists suck, but in no way as the nazis do.
 
Sweden said:
When I was young Germans sincerely thought the world would be a better place without me in it. So they worked towards their humanistic goal by dropping bombs in my direction and later on firing rockets at me. This has had an unfortunate effect; I am somewhat averse to moral lectures voiced by Germans. You see I measured them of their goals.
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What is specific to all ideologies that wish to create a better world by authoritarian measures, is that they basically mean the creation of a better human race. By that very nature the only conclusive measure (theirs) needs to be reduction rather than addition. IOW there is seen the need to take something (the perceived "bad") away, rather than add a (just perceived or even proven) good. And once such ideologies succeed on embarking upon the path of "take", they, by their inherent fallacy of thinking, take everything else as well and add nothing.

In this Nazis and Communists (as we could observe them at work) were and are still much more of the same fold than either of them prefer to recognize.
 
Big Eye said:
Funnily enough there is a TV show in the UK called Panorama made by the BBC...it's a load of leftist propaganda too. The left seem to dominate the MSM, that's why most Conservatives find alternative sources which are more likely to speak the truth.


We are forced to pay for the BBC in this country which is an outrage...but in this house we have stopped paying...we'll see what happens.
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Same here, but as said, the wind changes. The ones who made that show get heavily attacked now, from other mainstream media like "Die Welt" as well. And i think thats a positive development.
 
Chagos said:
Apart from Bohnert having spoken at the "Cimbria" (outlined in post # 18), he also is recorded as having appeared as a guest speaker (still Captain at the time) at the "Studienzentrum Weikersheim", an assembly ground for right-wingers that was founded by Hans Filbinger, a German politician who was a Nazi party member and a judge in Nazi naval courts who, in the role of prosecutor that such judges also held, filed for and then effected 4 death sentences of sailors at the time. Not all of them having led to execution for reasons I won't go into here so as not to explode the topic.
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Ypu forget to mention that Filbinger was also Ministerpräsident of BAden-Württemberg and honored by Öttinger, a later MP of Baden-Württemberg in 2008.
 
german hick said:
I´m completely with you on that. I saw them in Berlin when I was demonstrating against TTIP and in Münster when it went against AFD - both times I was ashamed they were on my side of the fence. They might even be violent, but they don´t murder. In no way coldhearted like NSU or similar groups. So yes left extremists suck, but in no way as the nazis do.
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Yo, they dont murder, they just set your house at fire at night. If you burn alive and your family is killed as well, it was the fire, not the antifa vermin.

They beat down elderly people with a pole and if those die, its because tehy have fallen and not the antifa vermin beating them...

Dude i give you a very short lesson...the moment you raise your hand to beat someone because you disagree with this person, is the moment you want kill that person. One flse hit can cause death.
 
Rostocker said:
Same here, but as said, the wind changes. The ones who made that show get heavily attacked now, from other mainstream media like "Die Welt" as well. And i think thats a positive development.
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Well the good news is that the MSM has generally taken sides and now the MSM is dying , the only way it survives is by the input of billionaires , a shrinking advertising margin and taxation (here in the UK). Most people don't buy into the liberal left's bull**** world view...it tends to be people within the establishment and education system and these people live a bubble so overestimate their importance and numbers.

As for BLM they are very obviously fascists...they're even starting to dress like the SS. They were marching about in London yesterday...trouble is black people only make up 3% of the UK population so this faux anger is going to backfire on them...I can't wait.

Nigel Farage hits out as 'terrifying Paramilitary-style' protesters join London BLM march | UK | News | Express.co.uk
 
The white middle class jerks joining them are the ones that really wind me up ...what a bunch of muppets.
 
Rostocker said:
Ypu forget to mention that Filbinger was also Ministerpräsident of BAden-Württemberg and honored by Öttinger, a later MP of Baden-Württemberg in 2008.
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So bloody what?

Once his Nazi past came out he was toast.
 
Rostocker said:
Yo, they dont murder, they just set your house at fire at night. If you burn alive and your family is killed as well, it was the fire, not the antifa vermin.
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again with no evidence as usual... but I have some

National Socialist Underground murders - Wikipedia


Rostocker said:
Dude i give you a very short lesson...
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I don´t need no lessons from people without a heart, but with a nationalistic hate dogma instead and a manipulative agenda - if extreme lefties are scum, extreme right wingers are arch scum
 
Rostocker said:
Antifa is facism with a new name.
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You're literally speaking in Orwellian terms now:

“War is peace!
Freedom is slavery!
Ignorance is strength!”

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Rostocker said:
Yo, they dont murder, they just set your house at fire at night. If you burn alive and your family is killed as well, it was the fire, not the antifa vermin..............~
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Yeah, as could be seen in Solingen, Rostock, Mölln etc.:roll:

Do you actually have to make an effort at posting such idiocy or are you a natural?

~.............Dude i give you a very short lesson...........~
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In view of the unadulterated bull crap you constantly post on here, you lack both the qualifications and (as can be seen) the life experience to be able to give lessons to anyone.
 
german hick said:
again with no evidence as usual... but I have some

National Socialist Underground murders - Wikipedia




I don´t need no lessons from people without a heart, but with a nationalistic hate dogma instead and a manipulative agenda - if extreme lefties are scum, extreme right wingers are arch scum
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I have no problem with your opinion. If there is a extreme left, there must always be a extreme right as well to function as corrective. One thing is the foundation of the other.

If you bring up the NSU, you should not forget the RAF
 
Rostocker said:
I have no problem with your opinion. If there is a extreme left, there must always be a extreme right as well to function as corrective. One thing is the foundation of the other.

If you bring up the NSU, you should not forget the RAF
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yeah RAF, some 50 years ago... and what was the connection to Antifa? If that goes trough for you, you should not have a Problem if I connect AFD with NSDAP :)
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You're literally speaking in Orwellian terms now:

“War is peace!
Freedom is slavery!
Ignorance is strength!”

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I despise communists and what i despise even more is dirty black block antifa SA troops.

Their goal is to destroy enemies of their perveretd political agenda. They want absolute power and they want install a slave system. They attack and use violence to achieve that.
 
Rostocker said:
I have no problem with your opinion. If there is a extreme left, there must always be a extreme right as well to function as corrective. One thing is the foundation of the other.

If you bring up the NSU, you should not forget the RAF
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The RAF were a bunch of thugs that nevertheless attacked nobody on account of their ethnicity. The idea that killing solely foreigners as a corrective to RAF activities is so abjectly stupid, that the English language (as well as the German one) would need to invent new words to adequately describe the idiocy you posted here.
 
german hick said:
yeah RAF, some 50 years ago... and what was the connection to Antifa? If that goes trough for you, you should not have a Problem if I connect AFD with NSDAP :)
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I have no problem with that at all. But AfD is not socialist. The party that has most in common with the NSDAP are the Greens btw. The AfD has more in common with the old centrum party.

The Greens took the environmental mysticism of the NSDAP and made it the base of their program.

Alot of th founders of the Green party were NSDAP members. Werner Vogel for example.

https://www.bpb.de/politik/extremismus/rechtsextremismus/211923/oekologie-von-rechts?show=image&k=4

The Green Party also has a masisve antisemitism problem within its ranks. While the AfD is a strong supporter of Israel, the Greens are enemies of Israel and support terrorism against jews.

The Greens even meet with Mullahs and support Iran, which wants destroy Israel.
 
german hick said:
yeah RAF, some 50 years ago... and what was the connection to Antifa? If that goes trough for you, you should not have a Problem if I connect AFD with NSDAP :)
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The AfD became the refuge of all the NPD a-holes, once their stupid party became obsolete.
 
Chagos said:
The AfD became the refuge of all the NPD a-holes, once their stupid party became obsolete.
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80% of the AfD leading members were former CDU members.

There is a party law that doesnt allow former NPD members to join the AfD.
 
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