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'Mix-up' over EU ventilator scheme?

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The EU has said the UK can take part in the procurement project, which will use the EU's buying power to purchase more stock, even though it is no longer a member of the bloc.
But earlier on Thursday, Downing Street said the UK would not be joining the scheme because "we are no longer members of the EU".
The spokesman added: “We are conducting our own work on ventilators and we’ve had a very strong response from business, and we’ve also procured ventilators from the private sector in the UK and from international manufacturers."

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Downing Street has now issued a statement saying the UK had missed the deadline for the first round of procurements.
A UK government spokesperson said: "Owing to an initial communication problem, the UK did not receive an invitation in time to join in four joint procurements in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Link.
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Hope those 10,00 newly ordered Dyson ventilators are designed and made REALLY quickly and that they work faultlessly.

If people die because the Govt refused to use EU mass-purchase powers because of Brexit, this will really smell bad....
 
Am I surprised?

Nope.

Are you surprised?

Nope.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Hope those 10,00 newly ordered Dyson ventilators are designed and made REALLY quickly and that they work faultlessly.

If people die because the Govt refused to use EU mass-purchase powers because of Brexit, this will really smell bad....
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We already have companies who make them, but Brexiter Dyson gets an order to design and build one from scratch. I wonder if he'll use his Singapore factories?

Plus the fact we're three months in, but only ordering them now! The Tories really were planning to cull the herd!
 
That's messed up.
 
Manc Skipper said:
We already have companies who make them, but Brexiter Dyson gets an order to design and build one from scratch. I wonder if he'll use his Singapore factories?

Plus the fact we're three months in, but only ordering them now! The Tories really were planning to cull the herd!
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Dyson will make an expensive ventilator if his overpriced products are anything to go by.

Sent from my Honor 8X
 
Manc Skipper said:
~ Brexiter Dyson gets an order to design and build one from scratch ~
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My feeling is he was asked because he was so high profile in Brexit. A bit like "you got us in this mess old boy, your company better help us get out of it..."

And that's BEFORE Boris was found to have COVID-19.

However, like I said - Dyson is now under pressure to make sure they work because the Govt stepped out of the EU procurement scheme, leaving us in this situation - Dyson better not charge for these machines....

PeteEU said:
Dyson will make an expensive ventilator if his overpriced products are anything to go by.

Sent from my Honor 8X
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Even more reason they better work first time, every time... he's under pressure.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
My feeling is he was asked because he was so high profile in Brexit. A bit like "you got us in this mess old boy, your company better help us get out of it..."

And that's BEFORE Boris was found to have COVID-19.

However, like I said - Dyson is now under pressure to make sure they work because the Govt stepped out of the EU procurement scheme, leaving us in this situation - Dyson better not charge for these machines....



Even more reason they better work first time, every time... he's under pressure.
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If they don't work, that would really suck. There's a vacuum to fill, here.
 
PeteEU said:
Dyson will make an expensive ventilator if his overpriced products are anything to go by.

Sent from my Honor 8X
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Yes, but they will look amazing.
 
Rogue Valley said:
James Dyson designed a new ventilator in 10 days. He's making 15,000 for the pandemic fight

Says they'll be shipping the first Dyson CoVent ventilators in early April.

Most everyone in the West has had a Dyson vacuum cleaner or two in their day.
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Not me, not buying overpriced crap.

And he designed ventilators...whats next, designing a new plate or bowl?

Basically means he wasted time designing something relatively easy to make....let me guess, he is going to patent it and earn tons of money.... Dyson is a fraud.

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PeteEU said:
Not me, not buying overpriced crap...............~
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me neither.

If at my age I hadn't learned to see (over-)hype when it arises, I wouldn't have deserved to survive childhood. Vacuum cleaners are basically what they are, paying tons more for some fancy lights and other superfluous features on them is for fools.
 
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Unless you have the extra respiratory therapists, all the vents the world could produce aren't going to do much for you.
 
Well the Netherlands just received the first 100 of 1,000 new ventilators from the US, this will increase our ICU capacity by 1,000 extra beds.
 
Peter King said:
Well the Netherlands just received the first 100 of 1,000 new ventilators from the US, this will increase our ICU capacity by 1,000 extra beds.
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Isn't the Netherlands doing the "herd immunity" thing? Where they plan to let 60% of the non-at-risk population get sick and recover?

How is that going?
 
swing_voter said:
Isn't the Netherlands doing the "herd immunity" thing? Where they plan to let 60% of the non-at-risk population get sick and recover?

How is that going?
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No, we have intelligent lockdown.
 
swing_voter said:
After this is all over, I'm sure there will be a lot of study on how well countries handled the pandemic. So we'll see then.
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Important thing is whether we learn from this - apparently the South Koreans and Chinese had been planning how to deal with such. (Maybe because a few have started over there?)

If we go into the next one fumbling blindly again, humanity deserves all the schtick it gets...
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Important thing is whether we learn from this - apparently the South Koreans and Chinese had been planning how to deal with such. (Maybe because a few have started over there?)

If we go into the next one fumbling blindly again, humanity deserves all the schtick it gets...
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Yes, South Korea in particular was on alert for a pandemic having been hit by SARS, in particular, so they had contingency plans. Those plans were influenced, ironically, by the 15 year project of the NIH to educate and finance pandemic surveillance and response programs in 37 other countries. We've been "spreading the word" and best practices since the 2009 pandemic, and SARS was a proving ground for those mechanisms. That's part of why South Korea reacted with such alacrity.
 
NWRatCon said:
Yes, South Korea in particular was on alert for a pandemic having been hit by SARS, in particular, so they had contingency plans. Those plans were influenced, ironically, by the 15 year project of the NIH to educate and finance pandemic surveillance and response programs in 37 other countries. We've been "spreading the word" and best practices since the 2009 pandemic, and SARS was a proving ground for those mechanisms. That's part of why South Korea reacted with such alacrity.
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It also helps that South Korea is a strict regulated country where outliers and behavior outside the norm is not accepted/appreciated and the government has huge sway of the population.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Important thing is whether we learn from this - apparently the South Koreans and Chinese had been planning how to deal with such. (Maybe because a few have started over there?)

If we go into the next one fumbling blindly again, humanity deserves all the schtick it gets...
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In my ideal world after this horrible period is behind us would be a serious revision of pointless costly military endeavours around the world, more specifically the Middle East, and focus on what's really more important.

Secondly, a serious revision of MP's salaries and expenses, along with those working for the NHS.

Both are absurd at either end of the scale to the point of criminality!
 
Manc Skipper said:
We already have companies who make them, but Brexiter Dyson gets an order to design and build one from scratch. I wonder if he'll use his Singapore factories?

Plus the fact we're three months in, but only ordering them now! The Tories really were planning to cull the herd!
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it was done in purpose he put Tory donors first JCB and Dyson .... some of the designs these so called UK companies have developed are crude to say the least .... Boris Johnson and the Tories don't give a jot ... their priority when comes to testing is parliamentarians and the royal family and their servants the number of testing in the UK is woefully low .... they had a 2 month window and blew it be refusing to screen and take temperatures of arrivals to the UK even from Corona virus hot spots and the NHS are now being given substandard safety equipment

Infinite Chaos said:
Important thing is whether we learn from this - apparently the South Koreans and Chinese had been planning how to deal with such. (Maybe because a few have started over there?)

If we go into the next one fumbling blindly again, humanity deserves all the schtick it gets...
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NHS in Scotland are buying up large amounts of testing kits from South Korea as Scotland is fed up waiting for the UK test scheme to roll out
 
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Godric1970 said:
~ NHS in Scotland are buying up large amounts of testing kits from South Korea as Scotland is fed up waiting for the UK test scheme to roll out
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Anyone notice how Nicola Sturgeon announces COVID-19 policy and then 24 hours later it's the same in England and Wales? Schools closure was maybe a week later but Nicola seems much quicker off the mark than our blundering Boris.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Anyone notice how Nicola Sturgeon announces COVID-19 policy and then 24 hours later it's the same in England and Wales? Schools closure was maybe a week later but Nicola seems much quicker off the mark than our blundering Boris.
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she has now banned the eviction of tenants from there home
 
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