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the UK under Lock Down

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Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police | World news | The Guardian

So. It's official. We have joined the club.

"Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police " Lol. What police? Our town has an imposing police station and gets used as a centre for giving rookie cops a taste of mostly sleepy streets. Not seen any in the last week.

Since my driving license has the magic words "Dr." on it, I'm keeping calm and carrying on as per other new norms.
 
Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police | World news | The Guardian

So. It's official. We have joined the club.

"Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police " Lol. What police? Our town has an imposing police station and gets used as a centre for giving rookie cops a taste of mostly sleepy streets. Not seen any in the last week.

Since my driving license has the magic words "Dr." on it, I'm keeping calm and carrying on as per other new norms.
What a turnaround! It seems we were just hearing about letting the virus reach herd immunity, and now Boris is making it illegal for more than two to gather? He seems about as stable as our current genius, Stateside.
 
Boris finally took action. Here in Ireland, we’ve been under lock down for about 8 days so we’re about a week ahead of them. Not as severe as the measures announced this evening in the UK but our government may enforce a more stringent isolation tomorrow. The explosion of cases in France and Spain is worrying as they are perhaps a week ahead of us. Not much point in looking at Italy as they’re a unique case.

Obviously I’m not going back to work next week, really getting very bored with cooking, reading, Netflix and wine.
 
Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police | World news | The Guardian

So. It's official. We have joined the club.

"Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police " Lol. What police? Our town has an imposing police station and gets used as a centre for giving rookie cops a taste of mostly sleepy streets. Not seen any in the last week.

Since my driving license has the magic words "Dr." on it, I'm keeping calm and carrying on as per other new norms.

British citizens aren't allowed to move about, but the airports are open, and foreign travel is welcome.

Flights arriving in UK every day from coronavirus hotspots | News | The Times

Something is very wrong here.
 
What a turnaround! It seems we were just hearing about letting the virus reach herd immunity, and now Boris is making it illegal for more than two to gather? He seems about as stable as our current genius, Stateside.

The Govt couldn't keep pushing the story that we are being guided by science - the little fact that 36 million of us would have to catch COVID-19 and survive to reach critical mass for herd immunity was getting harder to avoid stating whenever Govt ministers were challenged.
I also wonder how robust the theory is as we haven't had it around long enough to know if catching it once means you are immune. If it doesn't - we now have another virus that will simply kill off the elderly and infirm in ever growing numbers every year.
 
Lockdown measures - expect number two to be fully exploited to the maximum!

We have seen the UK mentality, give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

1, Shopping for necessities, as infrequently as possible

2, One form of exercise a day, such as running or cycling, alone or with household members

3, For medical or care needs, for example to help a vulnerable person

4, Travelling to and from work, but only if you cannot work from home
 
Living in an isolated region I'm probably going to take the dog out more than once a day.
 
Seriously WRONG!

Why are flights arriving from these countries.

"Passengers from Italy, China, Iran and Spain continue to arrive at Gatwick and Heathrow as the Home Office has allowed planes to carry on flying."

Deathwish UK!
Italy was the first country to COMPLETELY ban flights from China (Jan-31 this year) and look where it is.

IOW the ban had no effect whatsoever on the disastrous development of Italians by that time happily infecting each other.

This is the idiocy that I keep addressing of letting the factor of addition (from the outside) cause loss of sight of the far more crucial factor of multiplication (within).

The caveman reflex of "filthy foreign virus" leading to the delusion of keeping safe by locking out "furriners".

Quite apart from the question of how UK nationals are supposed to follow the FCO's call to return home asap, if there'd be no flights from Spain (for instance).
 
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Italy was the first country to COMPLETELY ban flights from China (Jan-31 this year) and look where it is.

IOW the ban had no effect whatsoever on the disastrous development of Italians by that time happily infecting each other.

This is the idiocy that I keep addressing of letting the factor of addition (from the outside) cause loss of sight of the far more crucial factor of multiplication (within).

The caveman reflex of "filthy foreign virus" leading to the delusion of keeping safe by locking out "furriners".

For me it's not "The caveman reflex of filthy foreign virus" at all. It's purely limiting the potential new cases wherever possible. I'm fully aware the virus is here and amongst us, and being spread domestically without any assistance from the outside.

In reverse of this, aren't most of China's new cases now coming from the outside?
 
The Govt couldn't keep pushing the story that we are being guided by science - the little fact that 36 million of us would have to catch COVID-19 and survive to reach critical mass for herd immunity was getting harder to avoid stating whenever Govt ministers were challenged.
I also wonder how robust the theory is as we haven't had it around long enough to know if catching it once means you are immune. If it doesn't - we now have another virus that will simply kill off the elderly and infirm in ever growing numbers every year.
The only ultimate solution will be the development of a vaccine that works.

Like flu, Covid won't go away and, what's more, mutate towards different strains, also just like flu. So any working vaccine, once developed, will require adjustment from time to time. Also as with flu.

Immunity, however big the herd, won't protect everyone.
 
For me it's not "The caveman reflex of filthy foreign virus" at all. It's purely limiting the potential new cases wherever possible. I'm fully aware the virus is here and amongst us, and being spread domestically without any assistance from the outside.
Salient point being that in this current situation, "import" is practically negligible.

What I'd hope for (but so far find no confirmation upon) is that arrivals are all checked (tested) for infection and/or sent into a two week self-isolation even should they be symptom-free.

In reverse of this, aren't most of China's new cases now coming from the outside?
The buck's been flipped in that China now bans all flights FROM Italy. And S.Korea and Iran.
 
The buck's been flipped in that China now bans all flights FROM Italy. And S.Korea and Iran.

So have they adopted "the caveman reflex of filthy foreign virus leading to the delusion of keeping safe by locking out furriners".
 
So have they adopted "the caveman reflex of filthy foreign virus leading to the delusion of keeping safe by locking out furriners".
Sure looks like it.

In that respect they're as daft as everybody else but I suspect it's also payback time for the crap they've had thrown at them. Not that the throwing of it was unwarranted but it's likely the human case of "you kicked my dog so now I'll bite your cat".

All that would really be required is that arrivals are presented with the choice of either going into quarantine immediately, or being turned back onto the same flight they arrived on.

That's what many countries are doing and it sure dissuades travel altogether.
 
All that would really be required is that arrivals are presented with the choice of either going into quarantine immediately, or being turned back onto the same flight they arrived on.

Absolutely concur!
 
Wtf ... 27 million people watched Boris Johnson's speech?! Did they have nothing better to do?!
 
Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police | World news | The Guardian

So. It's official. We have joined the club.

"Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police " Lol. What police? Our town has an imposing police station and gets used as a centre for giving rookie cops a taste of mostly sleepy streets. Not seen any in the last week.

Since my driving license has the magic words "Dr." on it, I'm keeping calm and carrying on as per other new norms.
They must have lots of police in England who are not too busy preventing and solving crimes already.
 
What is wrong with Londoners? Still piling into pubs until they no longer could, and still cramming into public transport.

From the Daily Mail with good photos, as always:

Hours after Boris Johnson said almost all Britons should should stay at home in the most draconian shutdown in modern history, people were nose-to-nose on the Tube, trains and buses despite being told to be two metres apart to avoid catching coronavirus, which has claimed 335 lives so far.

To stem the terrifying number of deaths, gatherings of more than two people are now banned and people must only leave their homes for essential supplies, medical help, or to travel to work if it is 'absolutely' unavoidable. Going out for exercise is allowed once a day as long as people stay two metres apart to stop the NHS collapsing under the strain of new cases. Tubes, trains and buses are still rammed on day one of UK lockdown | Daily Mail Online
 
What nonsense! Anyone who continues to take the same course in any rapidly changing situation is not "stable" but as big a fool as you.
 
What is wrong with Londoners? Still piling into pubs until they no longer could, and still cramming into public transport.

From the Daily Mail with good photos, as always:

Hours after Boris Johnson said almost all Britons should should stay at home in the most draconian shutdown in modern history, people were nose-to-nose on the Tube, trains and buses despite being told to be two metres apart to avoid catching coronavirus, which has claimed 335 lives so far.

To stem the terrifying number of deaths, gatherings of more than two people are now banned and people must only leave their homes for essential supplies, medical help, or to travel to work if it is 'absolutely' unavoidable. Going out for exercise is allowed once a day as long as people stay two metres apart to stop the NHS collapsing under the strain of new cases. Tubes, trains and buses are still rammed on day one of UK lockdown | Daily Mail Online

Begs belief.

A train carriage is a thriving environment for a virus. Most of them in the photos aren't even wearing gloves, yet most probably holding onto the overhead bars, etc.

I don't suppose most of them are bothering to wash their hands either.
 
What is wrong with Londoners? Still piling into pubs until they no longer could, and still cramming into public transport.

From the Daily Mail with good photos, as always:

Hours after Boris Johnson said almost all Britons should should stay at home in the most draconian shutdown in modern history, people were nose-to-nose on the Tube, trains and buses despite being told to be two metres apart to avoid catching coronavirus, which has claimed 335 lives so far.

To stem the terrifying number of deaths, gatherings of more than two people are now banned and people must only leave their homes for essential supplies, medical help, or to travel to work if it is 'absolutely' unavoidable. ...............~
Well, bungling fools that BoJo's gubmint (or London council) may comprise, they're not the only ones this side of the pond that are overwhelmed by the task of making squares round (or vice versa).

Never seen such an abundance of conflicting instructions and vague definitions, UK, France, Germany or here (Spain).

For instance WTH kind of monicker is unavoidable work supposed to be, if you don't define "unavoidable" more clearly (and strictly preclude everything not fitting the definition)?

As such, I might find it unavoidable to go to work, seeing how I'd otherwise not be able to pay my bills (rent, electricity etc.) and the fact that I'm personally in the comfortable position of not falling into the category of the so afflicted takes nothing from their conundrum.

Seeing how London is hardly in a position to double or treble the number of "tubes", buses and trains, how does one thus get to work, let alone reserve oneself a personal space of 2 m on any of those, short of waving an AK-47 around?

That the pub thing (and the parks etc.) represented the height of irresponsibility is beyond question and that led to their closing, but shut down public transport and you'll be hanging from the nearest lamppost before long.

I don't have the answer on how to address this particular issue, I just know that this ain't it or wouldn't be.
 
They must have lots of police in England who are not too busy preventing and solving crimes already.

Seems like a couple in Midsomer and one over in Grantchester who hangs out with a vicar are the only ones who ever solve crimes there.
 
Oh dear. Private schools under the cosh, despite their 'charitable' status:

Private schools in UK struggling as coronavirus costs bite | Education | The Guardian

Private schools in the UK are facing a battle for survival in the face of the coronavirus crisis as parents who have lost their income cancel direct debits and overseas pupils who have gone home decide whether to return.

As the economic fallout from the pandemic begins to bite, there are fears that a number of smaller independent schools, which are already struggling, will be driven out of business.
 
To stem the terrifying number of deaths, gatherings of more than two people are now banned and people must only leave their homes for essential supplies, medical help, or to travel to work if it is 'absolutely' unavoidable. Going out for exercise is allowed once a day as long as people stay two metres apart to stop the NHS collapsing under the strain of new cases.

The UK's death toll is now over 2,000 and it is likely that 200,000 people are already infected with the coronavirus. What Boris has not done yet is to close the county's borders to those travellers from affected areas such as EU countries and Asia. Lockdowns within Britain are meaningless if thousands of infected people are waved in at Heathrow on a daily basis. All foreigners should be quarantined for at least two weeks as it is done in South Korea.

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1245434438584074240?s=20
 
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