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Asian Grooming Gang free to Roam Streets Because Officers were Told to 'Find Other Ethnicities'

stevecanuck said:
How will you stating that opinion make their lives better? See, I can play this game too.
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Basically, you wanted to defend an OP with a history of serial dishonesty and then when you can't defend your attack on me you run away.

stevecanuck said:
Over and out.
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Yeah, don't let the door hit you while you scramble to escape having been shamed. Also, military radio procedure has changed to just saying "out!" 30 years ago.
 
The race dynamics in England must be a bit different - but rest assured that if it's Asian gangs that are "over represented" in this grooming thing, the population knows it. The PC effect is that it will be more acceptable for an Asian to be a groomer - it becomes an accepted part of the fabric of what defines Asians in England.

Britain will start referring to Asians in the most polite of ways, certain descriptors for Asians will be off limits, etc. But the Asian grooming will continue, and the actual opinion of Asians won't change. In other words, nothing gets fixed.

Analogous to the US, it's like when the media doesn't report homicides in Baltimore, and promotes the use of 'proper' terminology for the people that live there. You would think that this would give white people the impression that everything is just rosy in 'that kind' of community, and at least a few white people would be looking to buy a house and live there.

This doesn't happen, because everyone knows - even leftists - that PC is a veneer and changes absolutely nothing. There's what's happening at ground level, and then there's the fluffy pink clouds of PC.

I will say this though - PC does have a function for the left. It presents itself as curative, yet doesn't change the white mentality or the minority mentality. This keeps the racial status quo, and allows political posturing (and profit) based on race.
 
Rickeroo said:
The race dynamics in England must be a bit different - but rest assured that if it's Asian gangs that are "over represented" in this grooming thing, the population knows it. The PC effect is that it will be more acceptable for an Asian to be a groomer - it becomes an accepted part of the fabric of what defines Asians in England.

Britain will start referring to Asians in the most polite of ways, certain descriptors for Asians will be off limits, etc. But the Asian grooming will continue, and the actual opinion of Asians won't change. In other words, nothing gets fixed.

Analogous to the US, it's like when the media doesn't report homicides in Baltimore, and promotes the use of 'proper' terminology for the people that live there. You would think that this would give white people the impression that everything is just rosy in 'that kind' of community, and at least a few white people would be looking to buy a house and live there.

This doesn't happen, because everyone knows - even leftists - that PC is a veneer and changes absolutely nothing. There's what's happening at ground level, and then there's the fluffy pink clouds of PC.

I will say this though - PC does have a function for the left. It presents itself as curative, yet doesn't change the white mentality or the minority mentality. This keeps the racial status quo, and allows political posturing (and profit) based on race.
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They are only over represented in gangs who groom, not in grooming or child abuse in general. Most victims are made by sole perverts or perverts working in pairs.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Basically, you wanted to defend an OP with a history of serial dishonesty and then when you can't defend your attack on me you run away.



Yeah, don't let the door hit you while you scramble to escape having been shamed. Also, military radio procedure has changed to just saying "out!" 30 years ago.
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Get over yourself. You engaged in argumentum ad hominem and I called you on it.

Instead of commenting on the subject matter you attacked the poster.

Get...Over...Yourself.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Basically, you wanted to defend an OP with a history of serial dishonesty and then when you can't defend your attack on me you run away.



Yeah, don't let the door hit you while you scramble to escape having been shamed. Also, military radio procedure has changed to just saying "out!" 30 years ago.
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It's curious that you and Chagos repeatedly accuse me of dishonesty, yet neither of you are capable of producing a coherent list of what I've supposedly lied about. I've created hundreds of threads, I'm quite sure I've made mistakes along the way, but 'serial dishonesty'? I never set out with the intention of misleading anyone. Your government has been caught lying repeatedly to the public, as well as doing such morally reprehensible things as declaring Asian victims of rape to be more important than white victims. Your issue should be with them not me.
 
truthatallcost said:
It's curious that you and Chagos repeatedly accuse me of dishonesty, yet neither of you are capable of producing a coherent list of what I've supposedly lied about. ............~ [/b]
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nice try.

With the abundance of examples of your lies that alone I have supplied over the years, the above being yet another example of your constant dishonesty.

Your hope that all of it will either be forgotten or remain unknown to others is utterly futile.

THAT will definitely be seen to here.
 
Peter King said:
They are only over represented in gangs who groom, not in grooming or child abuse in general. Most victims are made by sole perverts or perverts working in pairs.
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The issue is the disproportionate role that Pakistani men play in child sexual abuse. It's such a lazy argument to say that most men arrested for having sex with underage girls are white, when 85% of Britain is white. What you're missing is that Pakistani grooming gangs aren't only using underage English girls for sex, they're also deliberately supplying them with drugs like heroin, using violence and torture to keep them in line, and selling them as prostitutes.
The heinous nature of Pakistani grooming gangs is what makes them so reprehensible. Your average pervert isn't going to shoot up a 13 year old with heroin, or torture her with violence, but Pakistani men will.
 
Chagos said:
nice try.

With the abundance of examples of your lies that alone I have supplied over the years, the above being yet another example of your constant dishonesty.

Your hope that all of it will either be forgotten or remain unknown to others is utterly futile.

THAT will definitely be seen to here.
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You've conflated two or three errors that I've made over the years with some conspiracy to mislead people. You follow me around from thread to thread blabbering on about mundane mistakes from threads that are several years old. I think you need to get over it already, and stop behaving like an old loony street woman.
 
Peter King said:
Where are the mentions of Ottoman and Japanese soldiers prior to 1933?
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It would make absolutely no difference to you Pete. You would simply call it good diversitys sake, or rationalize it in some way, or move on to nitpicking some other useless point.
 
Chagos said:
nice try.

With the abundance of examples of your lies that alone I have supplied over the years, the above being yet another example of your constant dishonesty.

Your hope that all of it will either be forgotten or remain unknown to others is utterly futile.

THAT will definitely be seen to here.
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Accusation minus detail. Yup, smells just like Chagos droppings.
 
truthatallcost said:
You've conflated two or three errors that I've made over the years with some conspiracy to mislead people. You follow me around from thread to thread blabbering on about mundane mistakes from threads that are several years old. I think you need to get over it already, and stop behaving like an old loony street woman.
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citing a deliberately cooked video is not addressing a mistake, addressing your dishonest claim of a pro rape rallye to have happened in Germany is not addressing a mistake, addressing your claim of a rape to have been perpetrated by Muslims is not addressing a mundane mistake, your claim over a case of violent assault to have been committed by a Muslim isn't a mistake, and your latest gem of German women having been forced to prostitute themselves in the Weimar Republic to Japanese and Ottoman soldiers is actually of indescribable proportion.

How far back in time (or how near) those lies rest, serves merely to demonstrate how far back AND near in time your conduct goes.

I'll get over that when I feel the right time has come and you won't be having any say in that at all.
 
truthatallcost said:
The issue is the disproportionate role that Pakistani men play in child sexual abuse. It's such a lazy argument to say that most men arrested for having sex with underage girls are white, when 85% of Britain is white. What you're missing is that Pakistani grooming gangs aren't only using underage English girls for sex, they're also deliberately supplying them with drugs like heroin, using violence and torture to keep them in line, and selling them as prostitutes.
The heinous nature of Pakistani grooming gangs is what makes them so reprehensible. Your average pervert isn't going to shoot up a 13 year old with heroin, or torture her with violence, but Pakistani men will.
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You lie, again, I already tutored you on this stupid claim when you made it last time. This statistic is only accurate for GANG related grooming, not in GROOMING or sexual child crimes in general. How difficult is it to understand.

I am not disputing the horror these animals put women through but the incorrect claim of you that this is a Pakistani thing when it is not, this is only an Asian thing when one looks at child grooming gangs.

Your claim that Pakistani's groomers are worse than other rapists is just inaccurate. All are equally reprehensible.
 
truthatallcost said:
It would make absolutely no difference to you Pete. You would simply call it good diversitys sake, or rationalize it in some way, or move on to nitpicking some other useless point.
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Yeah, you make a stupid mistake and make it about me :lamo

And no, I do not like Japanese or Turks, but that has nothing to do with your nonsensical comments.
 
Peter King said:
You lie, again, I already tutored you on this stupid claim when you made it last time. This statistic is only accurate for GANG related grooming, not in GROOMING or sexual child crimes in general. How difficult is it to understand.

I am not disputing the horror these animals put women through but the incorrect claim of you that this is a Pakistani thing when it is not, this is only an Asian thing when one looks at child grooming gangs.

Your claim that Pakistani's groomers are worse than other rapists is just inaccurate. All are equally reprehensible.
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Each grooming gang claims hundreds of victims Pete. The Rotherham series of rapes claimed 1400 alone. Learn what disproportionate means.
 
This is the......what?................?nth thread on the topic of grooming "by Asians" in the UK and everybody else is honestly expected to re-hash everything they've already said on the topic itself over the past years?

Expected to even consider the slanderous and lying claims of not caring about the victims, yet again?

No dice, cuz bait is bait and when accompanied by lies still remains that.

THAT's what merits being addressed every time.
 
Peter King said:
Yeah, you make a stupid mistake and make it about me :lamo

And no, I do not like Japanese or Turks, but that has nothing to do with your nonsensical comments.
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Axel Bruggeman: "The whole town was in the hands of leftist ideas. The political right did not play any role."

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'Foreign tourists flocked to Berlin...'

Barbara Ulkrich: "You had tourists coming from all over the world."

Mel Gordon: " People were renting out their bodies, people who you wouldn't believe like generals and their wives.. would engage in public sex in their living room if their were any Japanese, Turks or Americans who would pay for it."

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Leftist historians like Mel Gordon seemed to revel in the degradation of Berlin, at one time. They bragged about the influx of communism and social decline that followed Eastern Europeans into Germany's capital. This documentary is an ode to destroying Germans.
 
truthatallcost said:
Each grooming gang claims hundreds of victims Pete. The Rotherham series of rapes claimed 1400 alone. Learn what disproportionate means.
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The Rotherham gang did their thing between the 80's and 2013 during which an incredible 1,500 (not 1,400) were raped.

In the UK alone in 2016/17 there were almost 14,000 rapes of children aged 16 or under. The number of rapes is incredible and most suspects/perpetrators are white men.

Statistics show that:

The vast majority of child sex offenders in England and Wales are male, with men representing 98% of all defendants in 2015/16, and white, with whites representing 85% of convicted child sex offenders
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Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

However horrendous these animals of Asian descent were, it does not make them more prevalent to abuse children than white men, all your statistic says is something about gang grooming animals.
 
truthatallcost said:
Axel Bruggeman: "The whole town was in the hands of leftist ideas. The political right did not play any role."

7:40
'Foreign tourists flocked to Berlin...'

Barbara Ulkrich: "You had tourists coming from all over the world."

Mel Gordon: " People were renting out their bodies, people who you wouldn't believe like generals and their wives.. would engage in public sex in their living room if their were any Japanese, Turks or Americans who would pay for it."

YouTube

Leftist historians like Mel Gordon seemed to revel in the degradation of Berlin, at one time. They bragged about the influx of communism and social decline that followed Eastern Europeans into Germany's capital. This documentary is an ode to destroying Germans.
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great moving the goalposts there, your first post talked about Ottoman (not Turks but Ottoman) and Japanese soldiers, not tourists.
 
Peter King said:
The Rotherham gang did their thing between the 80's and 2013 during which an incredible 1,500 (not 1,400) were raped.

In the UK alone in 2016/17 there were almost 14,000 rapes of children aged 16 or under. The number of rapes is incredible and most suspects/perpetrators are white men.

Statistics show that:



Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

However horrendous these animals of Asian descent were, it does not make them more prevalent to abuse children than white men, all your statistic says is something about gang grooming animals.
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White people were 86% of the population, and 85% of the sex offenders, meaning they are not disproportionately likely to be sex offenders.

Pakistani men are disproportionately likely to be sex offenders.

Why do you not understand this? What is preventing you from understanding?
 
Peter King said:
great moving the goalposts there, your first post talked about Ottoman (not Turks but Ottoman) and Japanese soldiers, not tourists.
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There are no goal posts Pete, theres just you and Chagos making asses out of yourselves because you think you've caught me making an error, and its your only hope for discrediting me in some petty way. There were Japanese and Turkish sex tourists in Berlin in the Weimar days, and a certain cosmopolitan people financially benefitted from it. This isn't a point of great debate amongst historians.
 
truthatallcost said:
White people were 86% of the population, and 85% of the sex offenders, meaning they are not disproportionately likely to be sex offenders.

Pakistani men are disproportionately likely to be sex offenders.

Why do you not understand this? What is preventing you from understanding?
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Which is nonsense, you cannot prove such a thing as 8% of UK citizens were Asians and 3% were black. Asians/blacks and others make up 14% of the population and 15% of the sex offenders.

All you can prove is that in child grooming gangs the number of Asians is over represented.
 
truthatallcost said:
There are no goal posts Pete, theres just you and Chagos making asses out of yourselves because you think you've caught me making an error, and its your only hope for discrediting me in some petty way. There were Japanese and Turkish sex tourists in Berlin in the Weimar days, and a certain cosmopolitan people financially benefitted from it. This isn't a point of great debate amongst historians.
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Actually it is moving the goal posts. You said Ottoman and Japanese soldiers.

And you did make an error. There is no logical or any other reason for masses of Ottoman or Japanese soldiers to visit the Weimar republic to have sex.
 
truthatallcost said:
There are no goal posts Pete, theres just you and Chagos making asses out of yourselves because you think you've caught me making an error, and its your only hope for discrediting me in some petty way.
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Methinks it can safely be left to any reader of even average intelligence to discern who made himself look the fool by a statement such as
truthatallcost said:
Politically correct culture run amok is what caused this. It's worse than the Weimar Republic era, when ethnic German women were forced into prostituting themselves to Japanese and Ottoman soldiers in order to afford food. ....................~
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As to discrediting oneself, who needs others when doing it so nicely all on one's own already?
There were Japanese and Turkish sex tourists in Berlin in the Weimar days, and a certain cosmopolitan people financially benefitted from it. This isn't a point of great debate amongst historians.
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But that's neither what you said nor is your feeble attempt to deflect from it going to change anything.
 
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