London Terrorist was on Prison Release when he Killed Fellow Attendees at 'Justice' Forum

[Infinite Chaos]

John Wilkes Booth was no relation to William Booth (founder of the Salvation Army)

I think you're asking a HUGE amount from that poster to even begin to cogitate what you are demonstrating.

 

[Snazzy]

Maybe it's time for for London Mayor Sadiq Khan to propose sensible knife-control measures in London.

Knife-control policy might have prevented the London Bridge slayings.

Maybe a 30-day waiting period for purchasing knives?

A No-Carry policy unless you're a chef - only Chefs should be allowed to carry knives.

Both of these policies would have very little effect, to the point of being futile.

Knives will always be incredibly easy to obtain, and nothing can ever change that.

 

[Snazzy]

I'm questioning the whole process.

Namely, why was he out at all, why could his appeal succeed (in original sentence being reduced from 18 to 16 years) and why was he out after having served half?

I know that the IPPs were squashed but there are other means of keeping a rabid dog out of the public than shooting him (something I wouldn't support anyway).

Yeah, much to be investigated and much to be answered.

Both camps are going to have a field day with this in election time, taking turn in apportioning blame to the other. In fact it's already starting.

What is alarming is that as many as 70 people convicted of terror offences have been released from prison. These animals could, although SHOULD now be the focus of a government review.

I think these losers should receive harsh sentences served in full with NO parole under any circumstances - unless they're in a wooden box made from the cheapest of chipboard.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Both of these policies would have very little effect, to the point of being futile.

Knives will always be incredibly easy to obtain, and nothing can ever change that.

It's an American with Libertarian "lean" - that means he's really not talking about the gun / knife / crime issues in Europe but to the pro and anti argument in America. Favourite tactic of the "carry my 6-gun cowboy gun into the saloon" type is pretend that the next step is to ban knives.

 

[PeteEU]

It's his city. And it's his fault it's turned to ****.

How exactly is it his fault? You do know how centralised the UK is right? The Mayor of London has very little influence on how the police is run or funded. That power resides with the Tory government.

 

[Manc Skipper]

How exactly is it his fault? You do know how centralised the UK is right? The Mayor of London has very little influence on how the police is run or funded. That power resides with the Tory government.

He inherited the city from one Boris Johnson. Rebuilding services takes time!

 

[PeteEU]

He inherited the city from one Boris Johnson. Rebuilding services takes time!

And it does not help that the previous guy wasted 100s of millions on vanity projects that never got off the ground.

But the main point is, just because he has the title of Mayor of London, does not mean he has the same powers as the Mayor of New York, or Copenhagen.. FAR FAR from it. What many Americans dont seem to understand, is that the UK is run from Westminster for the most part. It is highly centralized, which is ironic as hell as the EU they are leaving has one of its principles to be as decentralized as possible and that centralization is one of the accusations by Boris and his crooked gang against the EU...

 

[SkyChief]

Both of these policies would have very little effect, to the point of being futile.

Knives will always be incredibly easy to obtain, and nothing can ever change that.

Of course, you're right - my post was sarcastic.

Sometimes it's hard to convey sarcasm on this forum.

Next time, I will put this at the bottom of my post: (sarcasm)

 

[Manc Skipper]

Of course, you're right - my post was sarcastic.

Sometimes it's hard to convey sarcasm on this forum.

Next time, I will put this at the bottom of my post: (sarcasm)

Sarcastic? You would prefer a massive death toll from him having access to guns?

 

[zyzygy]

I think you're asking a HUGE amount from that poster to even begin to cogitate what you are demonstrating.

I try.

 

[zyzygy]

How exactly is it his fault? You do know how centralised the UK is right? The Mayor of London has very little influence on how the police is run or funded. That power resides with the Tory government.

True. I never comment on internal US politics because I don't live there and know nothing about it and I wish that some American members would follow my lead.

 

[PeteEU]

True. I never comment on internal US politics because I don't live there and know nothing about it and I wish that some American members would follow my lead.

To be fair, many Brits dont even understand their own very centralised system.

 

[truthatallcost]

It's an American with Libertarian "lean" - that means he's really not talking about the gun / knife / crime issues in Europe but to the pro and anti argument in America. Favourite tactic of the "carry my 6-gun cowboy gun into the saloon" type is pretend that the next step is to ban knives.

Some knives are banned now, aren't they?

 

[truthatallcost]

Victim #2 has been identified as 23 year old Saskia Jones. In Englands most diverse city, the terrorist only stabbed white people it seems. Maybe that's who he was angry at?

 

[truthatallcost]

I think you're asking a HUGE amount from that poster to even begin to cogitate what you are demonstrating.

He's managed to demonstrate that he's not very clever. What good contributions did Khan make to his city, country? 'First guy with a certain skin pigment to sit as mayor of London'? That's not comparable to the founder of the Salvation Army, which literally keeps homeless people from dying in winter time, and feeds children who might otherwise go hungry.

 

[truthatallcost]

He was first sentenced to an "indefinite term" which was set at 16 years on appeal. Conservative government policy reduced that by half to save money building prisons, then Conservative Home Secretary Chris Grayson decimated then privatised the probation service. To save money. Johnson was explicitly warned that convicted terrorists were being routinely released with inadequate followup, and he replied...."No Money!" Johnson never objected to any of this till yesterday.
NOW he's promising long sentences, and a clampdown on immigration, ignoring the fact that one of the heroes who stopped the terrorist and fought him to the ground was a Polish chef called Lucasz!

ps The sentence of "indefinite term" is no longer available to judges.

Let's see some links proving that. From what I've read, Leveson was the one who determined Khan to be less of a threat than his conviction proclaimed him to be. Leveson now heads the watchdog organization tasked with national security concerns, which is a very bad idea considering his inability to accurately access the risk posed by Khan.

 

[ThirdTerm]

Victim #2 has been identified as 23 year old Saskia Jones. In Englands most diverse city, the terrorist only stabbed white people it seems. Maybe that's who he was angry at?

When you walk through Central London, you don't come across minorities too often. Most people (95%) in the area in daytime are white middle-class city workers just as the ethnic composition of the country. You need to go to South London to see some black faces.

 

[truthatallcost]

When you walk through Central London, you don't come across minorities too often. Most people (95%) in the area are white middle-class city workers just as the ethnic composition of the country. You need to go to South London to see some black faces.

That's not true, the area around the Museum of London was about as diverse of an area as I've seen, & that is about a half mile or less from Fishmonger's Hall. There were blacks, East Asians, Indian Sikh cab drivers, etc.

 

[Chagos]

That's not true, the area around the Museum of London was about as diverse of an area as I've seen, ...............~

:lamo:lamo:lamo

You've never been to London.

 

[Chagos]

~................... From what I've read, ..........~

Well, that clinches it then, seeing how we by now all know your preferred "literature".

But do continue making yourself look the fool, here by showing your fantasy world in which anyone lying as much as you do is entitled to challenge the actual facts that others present.

 

[zyzygy]

:lamo:lamo:lamo

You've never been to London.

Obviously.

 

[babalu]

You're making a fairly generalized call to violence:



I don't approve. And the idea that an example = proof, is super-stupid.

It is impossible to prove that a terrorist has given up terrorism until he is no longer able to commit terrorism.

How many murderers who are released from prison are driven by fanatical religious beliefs which literally order believers to use deception in order to kill the enemies of Islam or perform terrorism or non-violent Jihad?

 

[babalu]

It's not a call to violence. Just an observation.

Do you know who Lee Rigby was? He was murdered in broad daylight by two Nigerian Muslims, who'd been arrested less than a year prior for trying to fight for Al-Shabab.

Murder of Lee Rigby - Wikipedia

They beheaded him, after running him over with a car.

It was an outrage that there is nothing effectively being done to prevent this terrorism.

A handful of vaping deaths in the US has people up in arms and effectively garnering momentum to ban vaping.

Yet, there is no way that the UK will be able to protect non Muslims from Jihad.

And that is why the USA must stop allowing more Muslims to this country.

Pretend they are skinhead Nazis and just say, "No."

 

[babalu]

Britain still owns the Chagos Islands which have been leased to the United States until 2036. The CIA built an interrogation centre on the island. The best solution for convicted terrorists is shipping them out to remote islands, where they cannot harm innocent civilians.

Ours is called Gitmo.

 

[truthatallcost]

Well, that clinches it then, seeing how we by now all know your preferred "literature".

But do continue making yourself look the fool, here by showing your fantasy world in which anyone lying as much as you do is entitled to challenge the actual facts that others present.

What are you rambling on about? I can't make heads or tails of the crap you post these days, which is why I don't read it, or don't respond to many of them.