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    Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is

    Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is


    French President Emmanuel Macron.

    11/28/19
    French President Emmanuel Macron has said that he stands by comments he made three weeks ago when he described NATO as "brain-dead," and he defended his push for dialogue with Russia. In a November 7 interview with the Economist magazine, Macron deplored a lack of strategic cooperation among NATO members, and pointed to what he saw as a waning commitment to the Western military alliance by the United States. The assessment drew sharp criticism from allies, with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warning against undermining the transatlantic alliance. "I totally stand by raising these ambiguities because I believe it was irresponsible of us to keep talking about financial and technical matters given the stakes we currently face," Macron said after talks with Stoltenberg in Paris on November 28. The meeting took place before NATO leaders meet outside London next week for its 70th anniversary, amid persistent tensions between Russia and the West over issues including the Ukrainian and Syrian conflicts and Moscow's meddling into other countries' elections. NATO has also raised concerns regarding the implications of China's increased presence and activity in the North Atlantic area. "A wake-up call was necessary. I'm glad it was delivered, and I'm glad everyone now thinks we should rather think about our strategic goals," Macron told a joint news conference with Stoltenberg. "Is our enemy today Russia, as I sometimes hear? Is it China? Is it the goal of NATO to designate them as enemies? I don't believe so. Our common enemy today is terrorism, which has hit each of our countries," he added.

    Macron also took aim at NATO-member Turkey, saying its military offensive against Kurdish militia fighters in northern Syria "endangers the actions" of the coalition against the Islamic State extremist group -- a coalition "of which NATO is a member." Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu dismissed the French leader's criticism and accused him of being a "sponsor of terrorism." Macron angered Ankara last month by hosting an official from the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). On Russia, Macron also said that Paris had "absolutely not accepted" a proposal from Moscow to impose a moratorium on missile deployments in Europe, as suggested in leaks in the German press earlier this week. "We considered that, as a basis for discussion, we shouldn't just brush it off," he said, adding that "this is the security of Europe we're talking about." Acknowledging concerns among NATO allies about his overtures to Moscow, Macron said that "the absence of dialogue with Russia" hadn't made Europe "any safer."
    While terrorism is indeed a global problem, elevating it above the expansionist militarism of Russia and China is disingenuous and frankly, dishonest.

    I have no idea where Macron has been, but the US has been talking to Moscow for many years about Russia's INF Treaty missile violations without any progress at all. You can only beat a dead horse for so long.


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    Re: Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is


    French President Emmanuel Macron.



    While terrorism is indeed a global problem, elevating it above the expansionist militarism of Russia and China is disingenuous and frankly, dishonest.

    I have no idea where Macron has been, but the US has been talking to Moscow for many years about Russia's INF Treaty missile violations without any progress at all. You can only beat a dead horse for so long.
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    Re: Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is


    French President Emmanuel Macron.



    While terrorism is indeed a global problem, elevating it above the expansionist militarism of Russia and China is disingenuous and frankly, dishonest.

    I have no idea where Macron has been, but the US has been talking to Moscow for many years about Russia's INF Treaty missile violations without any progress at all. You can only beat a dead horse for so long.
    yet America hasn't answered any of Russia's worries in regards of the onshore Ageis system that uses the same launching system as the naval version which fires tomahawk cruise missiles which was test fired on same land based system in America this year and the test launching of a new land based INF busting missile system 2 months after walking out on the INF treaty ... and Trump has no plans to extend the start treaty ... a very dangerous game America is playing here and we are on the front line
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    Re: Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is

    It's how the French got us to occupy Vietnam for them. De Gaul kept threatening to align France with the Soviets if America didn't preserve the French colonial empire. The communist party was big in France at the time so the threat wasn't all that hollow.

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    Re: Macron Says Russia, China Not NATO Allies' Common Enemies -- Terrorism Is

    "yet America hasn't answered any of Russia's worries "

    who cares about Nigeria in snow with its 1% of world GDP ? fuc& Muscovy
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