Yes there would. Because if the USSR stayed out of the war Germany would’ve been weighed down in a quagmire in Poland and eventually defeated by the Allies and then properly liberated without Soviet occupiers. Hungary would’ve retained their Monarchy and Czechoslovakia liberated by western allies.
I know you’re a soviet-phile but this narrative communist sympathizers have invented that Russia was really the reason we won WW2 is ridiculous. We pulled Russia’s ass with us to victory, without western support the Soviet Union would’ve gone the way of the Tsarist Empire.
The first year of the war went disasterously for the Soviet Union
We would’ve been liberating Poland long before Hitler was able to carry out mass genocide of the Slavs and if an actual genocide started on the majority Catholic population there would be full on to the death resistance. The USSR were the bad guys any way you slice it
1) there is no historical evidence to suggest that whatsoever, especially given the fact that it was the Germans who invaded the Soviet Union in the first place.
2) Considering how much of the German Army the Soviets held down, arguing that “gee, we could have won eventually” is rather stupid. All those units—including many of the elite of their army and Air Force—free to be left on the western front? It would have been a bloodbath if epic proportions. Would the western allies have won eventually? Quite likely. Would it have been a charnel house? Yes. Would the Soviets had invaded the Germans—with Poland being the frontline—the second it became obvious the Germans were losing? Yep. So your claim is rather dumb.
3) Even with only a fraction of their forces fighting in the west the Germans still managed to hold the western allies out of Hungary. The idea that the allies, facing even more troops, would magically have exponentially better battlefield results is again, dumb.
4) I get that you love all those brutal right wing dictators who used religion as an in excuse to keep people “in their place” but ignoring the facts of the matter is rather silly. The Soviets contributed a great deal to the ultimate defeat of your favorite thugs, losing a large number of people in the process, and hand waving that away is despicable.
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5) Yeah, that’s why there were T-34s rumbling into Berlin at the end of the war, because we “pulled them to victory”. You know, I just gave missed the millions of western troops doing the fighting on the eastern front since we supposedly “pulled them to victory”.
Debatable at best. The western allied aid certainly helped, but once the Germans failed to deliver the knockout blow quickly they were never going to win.
6) Yes, as it did for everyone else who fought the Germans. Battle of France ring any bells? Kasserine Pass? The Germans were quite capable of kicking you up and down the block until you gained enough experience.
7).....Hitler had already begun committing genocide long before the western allies got anywhere near the death camps. Your claim is flat out ignorant. There
was full on, to the death resistance in Poland because Hitler
was committing genocide of the catholic, Slavic populace there.....amongst many others, which is rather telling that you didn’t even bother mentioning. Millions upon millions died.
Maybe to the folks who think Franco was just great, but in the real world Hitler was far, far worse, and pretending those who fought the Nazis were the “bad guys” just confirms what everyone already knew about “traditionalists”.
