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Poland plans to tear down hundreds of memorials of Soviet - "russian " occupants

"The Red Army liberated Eastern Europe" stalinist propaganda , they raped women even Jewish in death camps . and did not even close many Nazi death camps they were in use under Satan Asiatic Marxist Koba commie atheist flag longer then under Nazi swastika .


 
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They did not liberate Eastern Europe. They conquered and subjugated Eastern Europe.

It is frustrating just how ignorant so many people are of history. The Soviets INVADED Poland in a military attack. The Soviets killed massive numbers of Poles and sent hundreds of thousands of Poles to death camps in Siberia. Russia did not liberate Poland.

Russia invaded Poland militarily in conjunction with the German invasion, the two dividing up Poland as conquerors. Then Germany and Russia fought over who would be the final country to enslave and subjugate Poland - and Russia won. Russia then undertook Stalin's tactics of terrorizing the entire population, sending hundreds of thousands of Poles to slave labor death camps in Siberia - most never to return.

While I oppose destroying monuments and statutes as they are history and only IDIOTS try to erase history, Russia did NOT liberate Poland. Russia invaded and enslaved Poland. That's a fact that can not be disputed except by ignorance.

The irony of the guy who spends his time on unhinged rants about how the Democratic Party is supposedly responsible for everything wrong in the universe complaining about others being historically ignorant is rather funny.

Yes, the Soviets attacked the Nazis, drove them all the way back to Berlin, and liberated the peoples of Eastern Europe from a regime which was actively slaughtering them in their millions, and a lot of Nazi collaborators had to scramble to get away or wound up pushing up daisies. Boo ****ing hoo.

Meanwhile the Nazis were busily slaughtering millions upon millions of Poles. You know, I don’t think the survivors left at Auschwitz gave two ****s what the Soviets had done in the past. They were simply happy to be liberated. And they were.

No, the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in an effort to grab lebensraum. It was far more than a “war over Poland” like you seem to think, and your desperate attempt to totally dismiss the Eastern Front of the war is rather amusing. The Germans, in case you missed it, didn’t stop at the prewar soviet polish border.

Yes, the Russians kicked the Nazis out of Poland and shot a bunch of collaborators in the Baltic States and the rest of Eastern Europe. It’s almost darkly amusing how people there suddenly had to come with excuses as to why they cheered on the German efforts to exterminate the Jewish populations of their countries.....or happily participated.
 
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"The Red Army liberated Eastern Europe" stalinist propaganda , they raped women even Jewish in death camps . and did not even close many Nazi death camps they were in use under Satan Asiatic Marxist Koba commie atheist flag longer then under Nazi swastika .




What exactly did you think the Germans did on their way east? Or to women, especially attractive ones, in the concentration camps? The selective outrage is rather telling.

But I get to a Noreika fanboy, you lot getting your asses kicked by “Asians” has to be humiliating.
 
What exactly did you think the Germans did on their way east? Or to women, especially attractive ones, in the concentration camps? The selective outrage is rather telling.

But I get to a Noreika fanboy, you lot getting your asses kicked by “Asians” has to be humiliating.

dont worry you 5 column - Stalinist - putlerist , CIA knows your IP address

The European Parliament called on the European Commission on Thursday to counter Russia's attempts to whitewash crimes committed by the Soviet totalitarian regime.

Read more: EP calls for countering Russia's attempts to whitewash Soviet crimes - EN.DELFI
 
dont worry you 5 column - Stalinist - putlerist , CIA knows your IP address

The CIA doesn’t give a **** about me bud. Unlike under the regime of Nazi collaborators, the intelligence agencies don’t bother spending time going after people who point out inconvenient facts.

After you get rid of your celebration of Nazi supporters then you can cry about others. Until then...
 
The Soviets fought to destroy the nazi invaders and put an end to their evil, and in doing so liberated Eastern Europe.

Liberated Eastern Europe? You so funny.
They only replaced one dictator for another.
 
no, Hitler inavaded its old ally USSR in 1941, but "russia" fought on Hitler´s side entire war
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OMG!
A force of about 50k Russians fighting with the Germans does not make up a country.
These were a group of men that fought the communist and Russian/Soviet prisoners.

A guess you can say France fought with the Germans as well when Germany set up a second puppet government.
As you will recall your history, Britain destroyed French ships.
 
1. The United States is tearing down statues of Southern Civil War heroes.

2. Taiwan is tearing down statues of General Chiang Kai-shek.

3. Poland is tearing down statues of Russian heroes.

4. Someday when Cuba is free, it will no doubt tear down all statues of Fidel Castro.

5. And I'm guessing that South Africa has already torn down various statues of previous leaders.

It's all very natural and understandable.

No big deal.

Time to move on.
 
1. The United States is tearing down statues of Southern Civil War heroes.

2. Taiwan is tearing down statues of General Chiang Kai-shek.

3. Poland is tearing down statues of Russian heroes.

4. Someday when Cuba is free, it will no doubt tear down all statues of Fidel Castro.

5. And I'm guessing that South Africa has already torn down various statues of previous leaders.

It's all very natural and understandable.

No big deal.

Time to move on.

The USA should impose sanctions on Italy, Egypt, Greece, the UK, France and every other country that are so unthinkably pro-slavery and racist that they leave up their monuments and statutes to slave owners that were built by slaves. Until the pyramids, basically everything in old Rome, the Greek temples, they Mayan and Aztec cities, and all the rest are destroyed, slavery obviously is still supported by most countries.

The USA should have obliterated every building over 200 years old that it came across in WW2 because all were built in the era of slaves and likely by slaves. Leaving up the ancient temples in Vietnam and Korea was pure racism by the USA. We should have blown them all up.

You see, most Democrats are right that ISIS was entire correct to blow up the ancient Buddhist statute as it was carved by slaves. In the USA, every building built before 1964 should be demolished - certainly all federal buildings in DC such as the Supreme Court, Congress and White House included as all were built while black workers were discriminated against and paid less.

It is time to PURIFY history and rewrite a perfect past of the human race. Anything else is glorifying and benefiting from slavery and both racial and sex discrimination. History books in the USA should start on page one with "History of humans in North America first began in 1964." Any history prior to then should be outlawed as hate speech.

Most of all, the Democratic Party should change their party's name since it 100% stands for the Confederacy and slavery.
 
OMG!
A force of about 50k Russians fighting with the Germans does not make up a country.
These were a group of men that fought the communist and Russian/Soviet prisoners.

A guess you can say France fought with the Germans as well when Germany set up a second puppet government.
As you will recall your history, Britain destroyed French ships.

you must be joking ....
"Soviet Union throughout World War II were both military in nature. It is estimated that anywhere between 600,000 and 1,400,000 Soviets (Russians and non-Russians) joined the Wehrmacht forces as Hiwis (or Hilfswillige) in the initial stages of the German Operation Barbarossa, including 275,000 to 350,000 “Muslim and Caucasian” volunteers and conscripts,[2] ahead of the subsequent implementation of the more oppressive administrative methods by the SS. As much as 20% of the German manpower in Soviet Russia was composed of former Soviet citizens, about half of which were ethnic Russians. "

and
Lokot Republic (Russian: Ло́котская республика) comprised a semi-autonomous region in Nazi German-occupied Central Russia from 1941 to 1943. Bronislav Kaminski's administration controlled the area from July 1942 to August 1943. The name derives from the region's administrative center, the urban-type settlement of Lokot in Oryol Oblast (now located in Bryansk Oblast).
Lokot Autonomy - Wikipedia

i pointed out first of all the same putin- vlasov - ilynin ideology , what can you say about it?
 
Liberated Eastern Europe? You so funny.
They only replaced one dictator for another.

Yes, it is amusing that people who cry about confederate statues—-a regime literally founded with the explicit purpose of continuing slavery—-coming down think they have room to talk about anyone else.


The Soviets crushed the Nazis and saved millions of people from being murdered. That’s liberation.
 
you must be joking ....
"Soviet Union throughout World War II were both military in nature. It is estimated that anywhere between 600,000 and 1,400,000 Soviets (Russians and non-Russians) joined the Wehrmacht forces as Hiwis (or Hilfswillige) in the initial stages of the German Operation Barbarossa, including 275,000 to 350,000 “Muslim and Caucasian” volunteers and conscripts,[2] ahead of the subsequent implementation of the more oppressive administrative methods by the SS. As much as 20% of the German manpower in Soviet Russia was composed of former Soviet citizens, about half of which were ethnic Russians. "

and

Lokot Autonomy - Wikipedia

i pointed out first of all the same putin- vlasov - ilynin ideology , what can you say about it?

It was racism that cost Germany the war. It was the holocaust that caused Einstein (otherwise a pacifist) to warn of Germany's atom bomb program as one example. If Germany obtained the atom bomb, the UK would have had no choice but to surrender.

Another fatal error is that Russia was still in a revolutionary stage with Czarists in Russia and Ukrainians both eager to help Hitler defeat Stalin. The level of hatred of Stalin was massive, combined with Stalin having gutted his military command structure in purges. Ukrainian armies offered to switch sides. Had Hitler told Ukrainians "I will set you free from Stalin, join me!' MILLIONS would have come over the Germany's side. If Hitler had not refused and had German not had to slug its way thru Eastern Europe and the Ukraine, it is likely Russia would have been defeated. If Russia had been taken out of the picture, WW2 would have been much tougher for the USA. Then and now, Ukraine is critical to Russia in terms of power.

Poland? Every country betrayed Poland.
 
you must be joking ....
"Soviet Union throughout World War II were both military in nature. It is estimated that anywhere between 600,000 and 1,400,000 Soviets (Russians and non-Russians) joined the Wehrmacht forces as Hiwis (or Hilfswillige) in the initial stages of the German Operation Barbarossa, including 275,000 to 350,000 “Muslim and Caucasian” volunteers and conscripts,[2] ahead of the subsequent implementation of the more oppressive administrative methods by the SS. As much as 20% of the German manpower in Soviet Russia was composed of former Soviet citizens, about half of which were ethnic Russians. "

and

Lokot Autonomy - Wikipedia

i pointed out first of all the same putin- vlasov - ilynin ideology , what can you say about it?

you'll find the vast majority of those were Western Ukrainians who saw the nazis as liberators ....... you keep on going on about evil Russia etc Ukrianian were pleading with the Nazis to form there own SS units and finally relented in '43 even today Ukraine see those nazis as national heroes from Ukrainian national news


 
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One of our resident Putin supporters.
 
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One of our resident Putin supporters.

so i'm not allowed to post the truth without being ridiculed by some clueless man/boychild who most likely hasn't hit puberty yet

and please point out which part of my post is not factual in any way
 
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One of our resident Putin supporters.

yeh man , so easy to spot them. by their trademark usual media crap about "Western Ukrainians" straight from TV.ru


ps
"
Russian internet trolls appear to be shifting strategy in their efforts to disrupt the 2020 U.S. elections, promoting politically divisive messages through phony social media accounts instead of creating propaganda themselves, cybersecurity experts say.


The Kremlin-linked Internet Research Agency may be among those trying to circumvent protections put in place by companies including Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. to find and remove fake content that hackers created to sow division among the American electorate in the 2016 presidential campaign."

Russian Internet Trolls Are Apparently Switching Strategies for 2020 U.S. Elections
 
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for all 5 column - Stalinist - putlerists , CIA/FBI know all your IP address. European Commission has to hit TV.ru and paid forum Olgino trolls ...


"The European Parliament called on the European Commission on Thursday to counter Russia's attempts to whitewash crimes committed by the Soviet totalitarian regime.

EP calls for countering Russia's attempts to whitewash Soviet crimes - EN.DELFI"
 
for all 5 column - Stalinist - putlerists , CIA/FBI know all your IP address. European Commission has to hit TV.ru and paid forum Olgino trolls ...


"The European Parliament called on the European Commission on Thursday to counter Russia's attempts to whitewash crimes committed by the Soviet totalitarian regime.

EP calls for countering Russia's attempts to whitewash Soviet crimes - EN.DELFI"

Ah yes, when you got trounced so badly all you have left is screaming fantasies about the CIA coming to take away the people who humiliated you. Yawn.
 
you must be joking ....
"Soviet Union throughout World War II were both military in nature. It is estimated that anywhere between 600,000 and 1,400,000 Soviets (Russians and non-Russians) joined the Wehrmacht forces as Hiwis (or Hilfswillige) in the initial stages of the German Operation Barbarossa, including 275,000 to 350,000 “Muslim and Caucasian” volunteers and conscripts,[2] ahead of the subsequent implementation of the more oppressive administrative methods by the SS. As much as 20% of the German manpower in Soviet Russia was composed of former Soviet citizens, about half of which were ethnic Russians. "

and

Lokot Autonomy - Wikipedia

i pointed out first of all the same putin- vlasov - ilynin ideology , what can you say about it?

Provide your source. I could not find nothing to support your claims.
Operation Barbarossa was the code name for the invasion of the Soviet Union.
There is no question some Russians were not happy with the communist regime fought with the Germans but not the numbers you claim.
Furthermore, Russia was not allies with Germany for the length of the war. That ended in 1941 with Operation Barbarossa.
During Operation Barbarossa, axis armies included Romanian 3rd and 4th army, Finnish Army (Russia attacked Finland years prior) and Army Norway.
 
Yes, it is amusing that people who cry about confederate statues—-a regime literally founded with the explicit purpose of continuing slavery—-coming down think they have room to talk about anyone else.


The Soviets crushed the Nazis and saved millions of people from being murdered. That’s liberation.

Talk to the people in the Baltic States and Eastern Bloc, asked them if they felt liberated after the war.
How many died trying to escape into West Berlin?

Who saved the millions that died under the Stalin regime?

My mother and grandparents were from Lithuania. They were so liberated by the Russian, they left their homeland with the Germans.
 
It was racism that cost Germany the war. It was the holocaust that caused Einstein (otherwise a pacifist) to warn of Germany's atom bomb program as one example. If Germany obtained the atom bomb, the UK would have had no choice but to surrender.

Another fatal error is that Russia was still in a revolutionary stage with Czarists in Russia and Ukrainians both eager to help Hitler defeat Stalin. The level of hatred of Stalin was massive, combined with Stalin having gutted his military command structure in purges. Ukrainian armies offered to switch sides. Had Hitler told Ukrainians "I will set you free from Stalin, join me!' MILLIONS would have come over the Germany's side. If Hitler had not refused and had German not had to slug its way thru Eastern Europe and the Ukraine, it is likely Russia would have been defeated. If Russia had been taken out of the picture, WW2 would have been much tougher for the USA. Then and now, Ukraine is critical to Russia in terms of power.

Poland? Every country betrayed Poland.

What lost the war for Germany was its invasion of Russia. Prior to the invasion they had a non aggression pact. Russia assisted Germany in the invasion of Poland.
Germany could not win the war fighting on two fronts.
Another reason they lost the war was the invasion of Pearl Harbor and Germany declaring war on the United States four days later.

With Russia and US in the war, it’s was just a matter of time Germany would be crushed.
 
The USA should impose sanctions on Italy, Egypt, Greece, the UK, France and every other country that are so unthinkably pro-slavery and racist that they leave up their monuments and statutes to slave owners that were built by slaves. Until the pyramids, basically everything in old Rome, the Greek temples, they Mayan and Aztec cities, and all the rest are destroyed, slavery obviously is still supported by most countries.

The USA should have obliterated every building over 200 years old that it came across in WW2 because all were built in the era of slaves and likely by slaves. Leaving up the ancient temples in Vietnam and Korea was pure racism by the USA. We should have blown them all up.

You see, most Democrats are right that ISIS was entire correct to blow up the ancient Buddhist statute as it was carved by slaves. In the USA, every building built before 1964 should be demolished - certainly all federal buildings in DC such as the Supreme Court, Congress and White House included as all were built while black workers were discriminated against and paid less.

It is time to PURIFY history and rewrite a perfect past of the human race. Anything else is glorifying and benefiting from slavery and both racial and sex discrimination. History books in the USA should start on page one with "History of humans in North America first began in 1964." Any history prior to then should be outlawed as hate speech.

Most of all, the Democratic Party should change their party's name since it 100% stands for the Confederacy and slavery.




I very much enjoyed your humorous way of criticizing the trend nowadays of obliterating reminders of the past.

If I had my druthers, all of those statues mentioned in my post would remain. But, of course, I am a nobody who cannot have his druthers.

By the way, I have NO doubt that at the very least some structures in this country will be renamed by the coming rulers of this country. For example, the Washington Monument will be renamed to honor someone more "woke." And Mt. Vernon may be razed (I am NOT kidding).





Have a great weekend!
 
No, Russia did not “fight on Hitler’s side in World War Two”. That is quite literally a blatant lie.

Without the Red Army there wouldn’t have been any Poles left either. The historical record is rather explict

How are things in St Petersburg these days?
 
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