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[W:57]Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

Re: Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

Frigidweirdo said:
The problem is that such an important decision made simply on one day doesn't mean everyone still supports this decision. Three years and more have passed, do you believe everyone thinks the same?

We know when it comes to General Elections that people vote DIFFERENTLY a few years later. Take 2015 and 2017 as an example. Two years in between and a different result.

In order to make such a decision in the US you need 2/3rd of one house, 2/3rds of the other house and 2/3rds of the states.

In the UK you have only half of the countries voting to leave, you have nowhere near 2/3rd of Parliament, you have a very, very small majority of the voters.
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Riiight....and you believe that there should be as many elections as necessary until "enough people think the same" and Remain. I got it.

A referendum was brought to the people. Bypassing Parliament and all their do what they want not what the people they represent want.

It is beyond condescending to claim that the people didn't know what they wanted when they voted. Were all the intricacies spelled out? No, but that's why the government is there, to work that out for them.

Don't need parliament, you have the people. That's how it was agreed to be decided, that's how it went. If it would have went the other way you and the rest would be saying "THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!! REMAIN!!!!" 3 cheers, down a yard or two, pat each other on the backs, and then went home for a plate of pudding and spotted dick. You know it, I know it. Cut through it.
 
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ChezC3 said:
It's is beyond condescending to claim that the people didn't know what they wanted when they voted. Were all the intricacies spelled out? No, but that's why the government is there, to work that out for them.
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They were flat lied to. They were promised free healthcare for it. It turned out that was all BS. Some are reconsidering.
 
Re: Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

ChezC3 said:
Riiight....and you believe that there should be as many elections as necessary until "enough people think the same" and Remain. I got it.

A referendum was brought to the people. Bypassing Parliament and all their do what they want not what the people they represent want.

It is beyond condescending to claim that the people didn't know what they wanted when they voted. Were all the intricacies spelled out? No, but that's why the government is there, to work that out for them.

Don't need parliament, you have the people. That's how it was agreed to be decided, that's how it went. If it would have went the other way you and the rest would be saying "THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!! REMAIN!!!!" 3 cheers, down a yard or two, pat each other on the backs, and then went home for a plate of pudding and spotted dick. You know it, I know it. Cut through it.
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No, you didn't get it at all.

A referendum was brought to the people, just as a General Election is brought to the people.

After a while the people get to decide whether the government has been performing as expected. Is this "as many elections as necessary until "enough people think the same""? No, it's not. It's called democracy. It's working on the basis that people have brains and people can see when they've been conned or not.

The referendum legally wise was quite clear. It was non-binding, the government had the final say. This was the case before the referendum and after the referendum. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and a cheat.

No, it was NOT decided they didn't need parliament. It's not my fault you didn't understand what was going on. The fact that people voted in a referendum without the fainted clue what was going on is pretty obvious.
 
Re: Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

Could be worse. The US has a nazi president, and he paints himself orange.
 
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Oborosen said:
You're forgetting that this is Germany. Calling someone a Nazi publically has some pretty serious legal issues.
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Except, of course, when they are actual Nazis.....as appears to be the case here.
 
Re: Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

Frigidweirdo said:
No, you didn't get it at all.

A referendum was brought to the people, just as a General Election is brought to the people.

After a while the people get to decide whether the government has been performing as expected. Is this "as many elections as necessary until "enough people think the same""? No, it's not. It's called democracy. It's working on the basis that people have brains and people can see when they've been conned or not.

The referendum legally wise was quite clear. It was non-binding, the government had the final say. This was the case before the referendum and after the referendum. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and a cheat.

No, it was NOT decided they didn't need parliament. It's not my fault you didn't understand what was going on. The fact that people voted in a referendum without the fainted clue what was going on is pretty obvious.
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I got it just fine. Do you realize what you wrote? WOW! I'm not even sure you do, but it is very telling. Here you are carrying about with you're woulda coulda shoulda's....your people are daft I tell ya, they can't pull up their own knickers without an instruction pamphlet, your selling of shoe polish to a bare foot man..and don't even realize in one sentence shown yourself and the fraud that is Brtitish democracy. Brilliant!
 
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The topic is not Brexit to the exclusion of the discussion set out in the OP. Let's get back to it.
 
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Other than he's not a socialist leftwinger, what proof is there that he's a "Nazi?" Anyone that isn't a socialist-fascist is called a "Nazi."
 
Re: Outrage as neo-Nazi elected town council leader in Germany

joko104 said:
Other than he's not a socialist leftwinger, what proof is there that he's a "Nazi?" Anyone that isn't a socialist-fascist is called a "Nazi."
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I wasn't going to get into the factuality of the label given, seeing as facts don't matter to anyone who isn't "Alt Right" Who is "Alt Right"? Anyone not of the Left, apparently...

The fact remains that a number of things could have prevented his gaining the seat, but no one took action. That being said, is a country going to make a mockery out of its own institutions by forcing the resignation or ousting of an elected official (from a legal political party mind you last I checked actual Nazi's were verboten) or will they simply take it in stride, allow the man to serve out his term and work strenuously to prevent all of the Left's fantasized nazi policies he wants to enact from taking place? Will they be a Democracy or a Democracy*?
 
Why should any attention be given to the German leftwing indigenous population? They have essentially self sterilized themselves with next to zero birth rate and are destined to extinction. They is no reason to pay attention to a group that established values that erase themselves from the future anymore then allowing someone who is suicidal tell you how to live your life.

The political contest in Germany is between conservative indigenous Germans and non-indigenous Muslims. That is the political battle line in Germany. The indigenous German leftwing is dying off, though it will take over half a century for them to be nearly fully self eradicated as the non-indigenous German Muslims want.
 
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joko104 said:
Other than he's not a socialist leftwinger, what proof is there that he's a "Nazi?" Anyone that isn't a socialist-fascist is called a "Nazi."
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The party put Rudolf Hess up for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.
 
The NPD is a Nazi party, period.

Efforts to ban it were however rejected by the German Constitutional Court by use of the following explanation:

The NPD is indeed clearly anti-constitutional, ideologically related to the historical Nazi Germany and "wishes to replace the existing constitutional order by an ethnically defined, "ethnic community-orientated authoritarian nation state", but currently, in view of its insignificance in political events, presents no concrete threat to the liberal democratic order.

It's insignificance resulting from the fact that it not once in its existence has managed to enter the Federal Parliament.

The Bundesverfassungsschutz (Agency for protection of the Constitution, German version of Homeland Security) nevertheless has it under constant surveillance.

Whether they can waste man-power on surveillance of some hick town janitor in a place that practically nobody has heard of, is however beyond my ken.
 
Chagos said:
~ Whether they can waste man-power on surveillance of some hick town janitor in a place that practically nobody has heard of, is however beyond my ken.
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Won't hurt to do so. Look at how America took its eyes off white extremists with guns and plenty of ammo.
 
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ChezC3 said:
I got it just fine. Do you realize what you wrote? WOW! I'm not even sure you do, but it is very telling. Here you are carrying about with you're woulda coulda shoulda's....your people are daft I tell ya, they can't pull up their own knickers without an instruction pamphlet, your selling of shoe polish to a bare foot man..and don't even realize in one sentence shown yourself and the fraud that is Brtitish democracy. Brilliant!
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Bye!!
 
Good news! Soon we’ll get rid of all the European progressive crap.


Enviado desde mi iPad utilizando Tapatalk Pro
 
Rogue Valley said:
Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.
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Indeed!

Humorously, the amount of people that have replied to this thread is more than the amount of people needed to oust the Nazi scumbag.

In fact the number of pages in this thread is almost more than the number of people needed to oust the Nazi scumbag - and it hasn't even reached double figures yet.
 
So now the question remains was this all just for show. Did Merkel's team vote this guy into office, only to grab headlines and virtue signal? Was staging a press day for kicking out the "nazi" so soon after AfD's huge gains really all this was? I wouldn't put it past the rotten bitch.

Now, the self-righteous, self-loathing, and self-absorbed will run on here and call it a CT, and I guess technically, that could be what you call it. But as a political stunt, it is an extremely plausible CT.

Get your party members in some "hick town" to vote in a "nazi janitor" and then let the Press go at it....All they need is one AfD to come to the "janitor's" defense and then it is off to the races.

Every publication, broadcast, internet post would be about the AfD coming to "Nazi's" defense. Next would be bringing up some of AfD's less than reputable members, talk of how an AfD member shared a bier and brezel with a NDP member some time 20 years ago and then, BOOM! AfD = Nazi will be all you hear....
 
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