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    Re: Work life in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    It is a disgrace that people do not get parental leave after birth. In the Netherlands women have 16 weeks of maternity leave. 6 weeks before the due date and 10 weeks after the due date. Maternity leave has to be started at the latest 4 weeks before the due date. But then the after birth maternity leave becomes 12 weeks so that it remains 16 weeks.

    Say the birth takes place 3 weeks before the due date and the woman started her maternity leave 6 weeks before the due date than the 3 weeks gets added onto the after birth maternity leave so that it remains 16 weeks.

    If the birth takes longer the total maternity leave is extended so that it will still be 10 weeks after the date of birth that a woman has maternity leave.

    If a child has had to remain in hospital for several weeks than the maternity leave can be extended for a few more weeks.

    Maternity leave is also for people who are on benefits. They too get 16 weeks of maternity leave.

    People who are pregnant of twins or more get extra maternity leave of about 4 weeks. They can stop working 10 weeks before the due date.

    From 2020 the leave that mates/husbands/fathers of newborns get will be 6 weeks.

    If you child gets ill and nobody is able to care for the child, you can request 2 weeks of short term carers leave in the space of a year. During that time you will get the sick leave pay of 70% of your normal wage.

    And then there is long term carers leave but that is not usually paid for by the employer unless the contract of the employee or the central agreement for that kind of work regulates that it is paid.

    So as a Dutch parent you have maternity/paternity leave, parental leave (2 months in the first few years of your child's life) and carers leave.

    Then there is calamity leave. Say your child falls and hurts himself and you have to take them to hospital that falls under calamity leave but that is only a short term paid leave system for real emergencies and calamities.

    Then you also get child benefits for each child you have up to age 18.

    If your child is 5 or younger you will get 247 dollars per 3 months. If you child is from 6 to 11 you will get 300 dollars per 3 months. If you child is from 12 to 17 you will get 353 dollars per 3 months. And that is per child, if you have 2 children you will get twice those amounts.

    Life is reasonably good for Dutch parents and children, add to that the paid leave that parents have, it is not that strange that Dutch children are really happy. Good wages, plenty of free time, extra money for having children, etc. etc. etc. makes for a decent system for parents and children.
    The rest of the first world does a lot of intelligent things that we should do here. However, every time it's tried, the right throws a tantrum and holds back progress. It's frustrating.

    I was somewhat surprised to find that I was offered nothing when it came to paternity leave. Even a few weeks would have helped. My wife had a good delivery, but was in a lot of pain afterwards. After a week, I had to say, "welp, see ya, honey, I'm off to work. Good luck!" It's ****ing stupid to have a work / life setup like that.

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    Re: Work life in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by eman623 View Post
    In Finland about 35% of people have college degrees. In the US it's 50%. Why is that?
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    Madame Ambassador Yovanovitch: "The State Department is being hollowed out from within." (the understood predicate - by Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo).

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    Re: Work life in Europe

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    It's more like the other way round.
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    Re: Work life in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
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    Random rightwing rag site. The actual numbers are 41% in Finland and 36% in US for a 4 year tertiary education.



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    Re: Work life in Europe

    Yes, I know very well it isn't 50% in the US.

    More Trumpian bloviating.


    Madame Ambassador Yovanovitch: "The State Department is being hollowed out from within." (the understood predicate - by Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo).

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