• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

BoJo warns Trump the US "must compromise for trade deal"

Infinite Chaos

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 28, 2007
Messages
23,928
Reaction score
16,476
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Mr Johnson said the US must open up its markets if a post-Brexit trade deal is to be agreed. "I don't think we sell a single joint of British lamb in the United States, we don't sell any beef," the PM said.

~

Offering an example of an American trade restriction, Mr Johnson said: "Melton Mowbray pork pies, which are sold in Thailand and in Iceland, are currently unable to enter the US market because of, I don't know, some sort of food and drug administration restriction."
He continued: "UK bell peppers cannot get into the US market at all.
"Wine shipments are heavily restricted. If you want to export wine made in England to the US you have to go through a US distributor. There is a tax on British micro-breweries in the US that doesn't apply to US micro-breweries in the UK." Link.

How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.
 
How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.

I think Boris is talking the talk, because he knows it's popular among the little Johnny Englishes. He doesn't need reality right now, he needs support. Reality won't get him support.

He knows such a deal will take ages, and he knows he can squeeze it for what it's worth. When it falls flat on its face, he'll ignore it and pick up some other thing he'll be in a fantasy world about.
 
For the food items, the USDA has clear criteria to follow to get your product onto our shelves.

The tax on microbreweries is because we tax all alcohol higher, while the UK doesn't. We don't just tax their stuff, we tax it all.

And yes, alcohol can only be distributed by select companies in select areas. I agree with that one, its a freaking racket. Welcome to the US.
 
How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.

Johnson appears to be staking out a rhetorical position for the masses. That's fine. He has to worry about political perceptions.

But what will really matter is the substance of his talks with Trump and the details hashed out between his trade negotiators and Trump's trade negotiators. From all indications, there appears to be a huge desire on both sides to do the work. That's a good start.
 
How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.
Hilarious moronic comments as usual from Boris. While it does expose the absolute hipocrisy of US trade restrictions, it also is bull**** from the Boris side.

1) Pork pies... Yea cause no one other that British wants to eat that stuff.
2) Wine...come on, he is bitching over almost non existing British Wine? Why not Scottish Whiskey a far bigger export?
3) Rail cars....er he does know that almost all British made rail cars are made by foreign owned companies?

I can go on and on with the examples he brought up as irrelevant niche exports that won't help the UK one bit in the grand scale of things.

But what it does show of course is how bad a situation the UK is in and how much the US and Trump lies about when it comes to trade.

Sent from my Honor 8X using Tapatalk
 
Boris ignores the reality that outside the EU, Britain will be desperate for any deals we can get, and Trump's "America First" policy will ensure we are totally screwed.
 
Boris ignores the reality that outside the EU, Britain will be desperate for any deals we can get, and Trump's "America First" policy will ensure we are totally screwed.

I don't think Boris Johnson (or the British people for that matter) really appreciate just how transactional Donald Trump is.

He lives and breathes for the [lopsided] deal. It doesn't matter if you are friend or foe. If he can screw you on a trade deal, he won't hesitate a New York minute to do so.
 
I don't think Boris Johnson (or the British people for that matter) really appreciate just how transactional Donald Trump is.

He lives and breathes for the [lopsided] deal. It doesn't matter if you are friend or foe. If he can screw you on a trade deal, he won't hesitate a New York minute to do so.

He is the President of the United States. His job is to get the best deal possible for US citizens. If Brits get hosed, thats their problem.
 
I don't think Boris Johnson (or the British people for that matter) really appreciate just how transactional Donald Trump is.

He lives and breathes for the [lopsided] deal. It doesn't matter if you are friend or foe. If he can screw you on a trade deal, he won't hesitate a New York minute to do so.

That's why Bozo should be cozying up to Tusk,not Trump. There are three trading blocs, China, the USA, and the biggest, the EU. Outside of those is a very cold place.
 
That's why Bozo should be cozying up to Tusk,not Trump. There are three trading blocs, China, the USA, and the biggest, the EU. Outside of those is a very cold place.

The alt-right and Putin-bots have pushed as hard as possible for Brexit and break away from the EU. You can see why the alt-right in particular are cheerleading for BoJo to sign a deal with the US. The Putin-bots know we won't sign a trade deal with a rogue Russia so they just want disruption.
 
How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.

Actually I agree. Make it a tariff free trade agreement. We can send our stuff there and they can send stuff here no tariff or restrictions, except for the normal rules once in country.
 
3) Rail cars....er he does know that almost all British made rail cars are made by foreign owned companies?

What?? The Brits don't even make their own RAIL CARS anymore either??
Bad enough they don't make their own cars anymore but I thought the rail car industry was still viable over there.
WOW, just WOW.
 
How well will this go down with the American alt-right if BoJo is really serious? Certainly the Putin supporters won't care as it adds to the disruption of the West.

Personally, I feel if we are to trade more with the US and create a new trade deal, I want the UK to be more than a vassal - no point loosing our ties with the EU just to be shackled under unequal trade rules with the US.



Boris is sensing wallowing in his own desperation. Which calls for desperate measures. So, Boris goes for pork pies, English wine, bell peppers and micro-brewery tax. That is desperation. Nothing big there, at all. If he got all that, he’d have gotten next to nothing. He’s like Trump, all right. He turns something into nothing and gets zero out of it.
 
What?? The Brits don't even make their own RAIL CARS anymore either??
Bad enough they don't make their own cars anymore but I thought the rail car industry was still viable over there.
WOW, just WOW.

They make them there, but most if not all companies are subsidiaries of foreign companies. Well we dont count steam locomotives do we?
 
Back
Top Bottom