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UK faces food and fuel shortages in no-deal Brexit, says leaked plan

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UK faces food and fuel shortages in no-deal Brexit, says leaked plan | CNN

The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.

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8/18/19
London - With less than 75 days until Britain is set to exit the European Union, a government report leaked to newspaper the Sunday Times reveals the disastrous effects a no-deal Brexit would unleash on the country. The United Kingdom would likely face food, fuel and medicine shortages if it crashes out of the bloc without a transition deal, according to the forecasts compiled by the Cabinet Office under the code name "Operation Yellowhammer." The dossier also predicts the introduction of a hard border in Ireland, which has been a main sticking point in negotiations, and severe travel disruptions at UK ports that could last up to three months. Medical supplies coming from Europe will be "vulnerable to severe extended delays," and the availability of fresh food will be reduced, causing prices to rise, the newspaper reported. It added that the public and businesses remain largely unprepared for a no-deal Brexit, and that growing "EU exit fatigue" had hampered contingency planning. "This is not Project Fear — this is the most realistic assessment of what the public face with no deal," a senior government source told the Sunday Times. "These are likely, basic, reasonable scenarios — not the worst case." A Downing Street spokesperson told CNN "we will not comment on leaked documents."
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This is the [ignored] reality.

Related: Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
 
Rogue Valley said:
UK faces food and fuel shortages in no-deal Brexit, says leaked plan | CNN

The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.

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This is the [ignored] reality.

Related: Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
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Awww...and to think they only had THREE YEARS to deal with this already.

Buyer's remorse is something opponents play on. Tactics of delay, coupled with doom and gloom predictions in order to change minds out of fear and regret.

Three years ago the government was given it's instructions by the referendum. Many MP's did not want to do it at all, while other's did not want to do it "cleanly," but only with strings.

Now instead of having time (years) to make adjustments in a reasonable turnover period, there are less than three months.

The hope is that people "come to their senses and remain." If not, then delay, delay, delay until they DO!
 
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Rogue Valley said:
UK faces food and fuel shortages in no-deal Brexit, says leaked plan | CNN

The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.

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This is the [ignored] reality.

Related: Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
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Kate Holton and the people she quoted are pretending not to know things...good little liberals, they are.

They don't mention that Boris Johnson has this issue covered. He is working with the US trade negotiators to work out a trade deal. This deal will be agreed to the day after UK leaves the EU.

Anyway, it looks like Johnson has much the same problem that Trump has...people in the government working against him. Oh well...
 
Consequences... the UK has almost gone out of their way to make this a complete fiasco.
 
WCH said:
Isn't that how Socialist regimes [EU] historically treat people who don't agree with them?
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Lol calling the EU socialist is hilarious... You mean the Conservative run EU who promotes the free market and so on...is now suddenly socialist because the UK is run by idiots?

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Rogue Valley said:
UK faces food and fuel shortages in no-deal Brexit, says leaked plan | CNN

The Sunday Times obtained documents showing that Britain will face shortages if it leaves the European Union without a transition deal.

5d589bc52400003500b999fd.jpeg




This is the [ignored] reality.

Related: Leaked Documents Show UK Faces Food, Fuel And Drugs Shortages In No-Deal Brexit
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Well, on the plus side, if the free-trade deal with the U.K. goes through, it sounds like our farmers reeling from the Chinese refusal to purchase American foodstuffs may have some new customers. :)
 
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PeteEU said:
Lol calling the EU socialist is hilarious... You mean the Conservative run EU who promotes the free market and so on...is now suddenly socialist because the UK is run by idiots?

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Calling the EU a "regime" alone was disqualifying. Its 28 sovereign countries that act as one, not 1 country pretending to be 28 like some (usually US'er) rightards believe...
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Calling the EU a "regime" alone was disqualifying. Its 28 sovereign countries that act as one, not 1 country pretending to be 28 like some (usually US'er) rightards believe...
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Oh?

So each country has its own currency and monetary policy?
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Calling the EU a "regime" alone was disqualifying. Its 28 sovereign countries that act as one, not 1 country pretending to be 28 like some (usually US'er) rightards believe...
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Indeed. But where does the locus of power of the EU lie? To say that Luxembourg has as much power and say as France or Germany would elicit a horse laugh from anyone.
 
Felis Leo said:
Well, on the plus side, if the free-trade deal with the U.K. goes through, it sounds like our farmers reeling from the Chinese refusal to purchase American foodstuffs may have some new customers. :)
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Are you putting us on? The entire UK population is 66 mn. Pretty close to the population of Beijing and Shanghai. Do you honestly believe a US/UK trade deal will ameliorate Trumps China trade fiasco?

Or replace the EU? I believe even the Brits here will agree that this US-save-the-day notion is pie in the sky (and partisan) thinking.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
Are you putting us on? The entire UK population is $66 mn. Pretty close to the population of Beijing and Shanghai. Do you honestly believe a US/UK trade deal will ameliorate Trumps China trade fiasco?

Or replace the EU? I believe even the Brits here will agree that this US-save-the-day notion is pie in the sky (and partisan) thinking.
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No to both your questions. What I argue that such a free trade deal would unarguably be mutually beneficial for the United States and the United Kingdom. Far more so than leaving our harvest to rot on the vine and the UK to go hungry.

I understand that you want to maintain the integrity of the EU as a counterweight against Russia, whatever the personal preferences of the majority of the population within those individual member states may think. But the people of the U.K. voted to leave the EU three years previous; they did not vote to leave NATO. I think we should do what we can to help keep the U.K. on our side without isolating it further.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
58 million people vs 1.4 billion great trade off
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The choice is not between 1.4 billion and 58 million new customers for our agricultural product. That 1.4 billion are already lost pursuant to the hard line that fascist China is taking (And as far as I am concerned, good riddance). Presently the choice is between 58 million new customers and 0 new customers.
 
Felis Leo said:
No to both your questions. What I argue that such a free trade deal would unarguably be mutually beneficial for the United States and the United Kingdom. Far more so than leaving our harvest to rot on the vine and the UK to go hungry.
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So the US will feed the UK? And I'm sure under terms most favorable to the US. After all, Trump is transactional if nothing else.

Felis Leo said:
But the people of the U.K. voted to leave the EU three years previous
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Voting to leave the EU (a non-binding referendum) via a Brexit deal is quite different than crashing-out with no deal. No one voted for that.
 
Rogue Valley said:
So the US will feed the UK? And I'm sure under terms most favorable to the US. After all, Trump is transactional if nothing else.
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Perhaps. But I cannot imagine that if it is pursuant to a free trade deal it will be all that much more unfavorable to the UK than the terms they were under when they were buying agriculture produce from the Dutch and French among others.

Rogue Valley said:
Voting to leave the EU (a non-binding referendum) via a Brexit deal is quite different than crashing-out with no deal. No one voted for that.
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True. But nevertheless, they as a country voted to jump out of the plane. And out they shall go whether they grabbed a functioning parachute or not. :shrug:

The British people had no say as to the terms that the EU were going to give them upon their intended departure, which, by all accounts, were as harsh and unfavorable as possible to prevent other countries from wishing to leave.
 
Felis Leo said:
They as a country voted to jump out of the plane. And out they shall go whether they grabbed a functioning parachute functions or not.
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Not by choice. That is a huge distinction you are ignoring. Johnson is going around his government's wishes and will even close parliament to get his way.

A sneaky prick like Trump with his bogus "national emergencies".
 
WCH said:
Isn't that how Socialist regimes [EU] historically treat people who don't agree with them?
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The shortages would be due to UK inspections and duties to be applied to EU products coming into the UK. The UK could easily avoid them for months if they do not do inspections and apply tariffs. Allowing for the free movement of goods (ie food stuffs). That has nothing to do with the EU, that is all internal UK decisions. It is not up to the EU to hire UK inspectors, or staff for duty enforcement. So blame the Conservative party of the UK, not the EU
 
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PeteEU said:
You asked for countries with their own currency and monetary policy, I gave you that... and then you focus on Euro countries? Why?
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That's not what I asked, I asked if EACH country has their own currency and monetary policy.
 
Mycroft said:
Kate Holton and the people she quoted are pretending not to know things...good little liberals, they are.

They don't mention that Boris Johnson has this issue covered. He is working with the US trade negotiators to work out a trade deal. This deal will be agreed to the day after UK leaves the EU.

Anyway, it looks like Johnson has much the same problem that Trump has...people in the government working against him. Oh well...
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Yeah, and wait to see how Catholic Irish Americans rise as one (Republican or Democrat) if Brexit harms the Good Friday Agreement. Pelosi, whatever your politics is accurate in stating that Congress may block any deal if the GDA is put at risk.

Felis Leo said:
~ if the free-trade deal with the U.K. goes through~
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Well, that will be a bigger success for Liam Fox than the deal he struck with the Faroe Islands and the Palestinian Authority.

Felis Leo said:
Indeed. But where does the locus of power of the EU lie? To say that Luxembourg has as much power and say as France or Germany would elicit a horse laugh from anyone.
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In some areas but if a little country like Luxembourg says no in a vote then they have as much power. After all - little Ireland with it's population of 4.8million is being supported by the EU against the destruction of the Good Friday Agreement by a no-deal Brexit.

Felis Leo said:
Perhaps. But I cannot imagine that if it is pursuant to a free trade deal it will be all that much more unfavorable to the UK than the terms they were under when they were buying agriculture produce from the Dutch and French among others.
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A deal within the EU is as equals. A UK~US deal will be one-sided especially with the "America First" doctrine.

KevinKohler said:
That's not what I asked, I asked if EACH country has their own currency and monetary policy.
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9 of the 27 don't use the Euro. Two opted out specifically and that will be 8 out of 26 on 31st October.

True. But nevertheless, they as a country voted to jump out of the plane. And out they shall go whether they grabbed a functioning parachute or not. :shrug:
 
KevinKohler said:
That's not what I asked, I asked if EACH country has their own currency and monetary policy.
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Apologies I miss read. No there is a group who chose freely to join the Euro.

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