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US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany

Godric1970

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no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

The US says it might pull out some troops from Germany amid rifts over a naval mission in the Persian Gulf and defense spending. The remarks from the US ambassador come ahead of two presidential trips to Europe.

The United States is considering withdrawing some of the US troops stationed in Germany, with Poland mooted as a possible new deployment, the US ambassador to Germany has said.

The threat of withdrawal comes amid ongoing differences between Berlin and Washington over Germany's contribution to NATO and a current spat caused by the German refusal to take part in a US-led naval mission in the Persian Gulf.

"It is actually offensive to assume that the US taxpayer must continue to pay to have 50,000-plus Americans in Germany, but the Germans get to spend their surplus on domestic programs," US Ambassador Richard Grenell told the DPA news agency, in comments carried widely by German media on Friday.

His remarks come after the US ambassador to Poland, Georgette Mosbacher, tweeted that her country would be happy for the American troops in Germany to move there instead.

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no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

What "occupation forces" does the US currently have In Europe?
 
What "occupation forces" does the US currently have In Europe?

let's see for a start Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Italy etc

The English bases are there because they can't stop kissing your arses
 
I'm pro moving American troops out of Europe.

It's a lot cheaper to station American troops in America. If we see that the Russians are about to invade, we can send troops back to Europe.

And Europe really needs to start taking care of it's defense more.
 
Those aren't "occupational forces", but I'm good with getting our troops out of Europe.
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

1. You should really try to speak only for yourself...and not for everyone in the EU and certainly not for Germany. I'm thinking they might have their own opinions and priorities.

2. I fully support the Trump administration using our bases in Germany...and the threatened removal of those bases...as leverage to get the German government to do what we want. After all, we are giving them a choice.

a. Cooperate with us.

or

b. Finance their own speed bump.​
 
let's see for a start Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Italy etc

The English bases are there because they can't stop kissing your arses


Are you purposely trying not to be taken seriously?

Me? I'm perfectly happy to leave Europe vulnerable if that's what they want.
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

let's see for a start Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Italy etc

The English bases are there because they can't stop kissing your arses

While I have questioned, for a very long time now, why the US has so many bases around the world you need to work a little more on what "occupation forces" means.
 
It's a stupid threat of a childish administration.

1) There are about 35k US troops in Germany. Of them quite a large part are support staff for US operations in the middle east and Africa. These troops won't be removed because of thier life saving jobs.

2) 35k troops even if they were all combat troops would not do much to stop a Russian attack.

3) A Russian attack would have to go through Ukraine and Poland before ever hitting Germany so it could hardly be a surprise attack.

4) A Russian attack on Western Europe would be dumber than Napoleons and Hitlers attack on Russia.. At least those two had the material and manpower superiority...the Russians don't and know it.

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Are you purposely trying not to be taken seriously?

Me? I'm perfectly happy to leave Europe vulnerable if that's what they want.

vulnerable to whom ?? it wasn't Russia that uploaded malware to our power grids it was the USA via NSA and GCHQ in London ... so i say again who is the real threat to the EU ??
 
vulnerable to whom ?? it wasn't Russia that uploaded malware to our power grids it was the USA via NSA and GCHQ in London ... so i say again who is the real threat to the EU ??

Dude, I said I'm happy for us to leave.
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

I'd be happy to see them pull out of NATO completely.
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

Technically Europeans in that area needed intervention at least twice in the last century.

Promise to behave and stop lifting crazed eugenics and racists laws from democrats?

What America Taught the Nazis (Whitman is a progressive democrat so he cannot admit that those responsible here were democrats top to bottom.) Whitmans book has good transcripts but the title would be far more accurate to say "What Democrats taught the Nazis" since every Jim Crow racist law was thought up, created, signed into law, and enforced...By Democrats.

"Whitman’s “smoking gun” is the transcript of a June 5, 1934, conference of leading German lawyers gathered to exchange ideas about how best to operationalize a racist regime. The record reflects how the most extreme among them, who relied on Krieger’s synoptic scholarship, were especially drawn to American legal codes based on white supremacy. The main conceptual idea was Freisler’s. Race, he argued, is a political construction. In both America and Germany, the importance and meaning of race for the most part had been determined less by scientific realities or social conventions than by political decisions enshrined in law."
In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States.
 
Technically Europeans in that area needed intervention at least twice in the last century.

Promise to behave and stop lifting crazed eugenics and racists laws from democrats?

What America Taught the Nazis (Whitman is a progressive democrat so he cannot admit that those responsible here were democrats top to bottom.) Whitmans book has good transcripts but the title would be far more accurate to say "What Democrats taught the Nazis" since every Jim Crow racist law was thought up, created, signed into law, and enforced...By Democrats.

"Whitman’s “smoking gun” is the transcript of a June 5, 1934, conference of leading German lawyers gathered to exchange ideas about how best to operationalize a racist regime. The record reflects how the most extreme among them, who relied on Krieger’s synoptic scholarship, were especially drawn to American legal codes based on white supremacy. The main conceptual idea was Freisler’s. Race, he argued, is a political construction. In both America and Germany, the importance and meaning of race for the most part had been determined less by scientific realities or social conventions than by political decisions enshrined in law."
In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States.

You mean Southern Dixiecrats who all turned Republican after Nixon promised them he would put civil rights on the back burner. It's not the Democrats fault that the racist South refused to vote for the party of Lincoln for 100 years. It was Democrats that passed and signed the Civil Rights amendment that ended segregation. The racist South turned red after that and remains so to this day with the blessings of the GOP.
 
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Technically Europeans in that area needed intervention at least twice in the last century.

Promise to behave and stop lifting crazed eugenics and racists laws from democrats?

What America Taught the Nazis (Whitman is a progressive democrat so he cannot admit that those responsible here were democrats top to bottom.) Whitmans book has good transcripts but the title would be far more accurate to say "What Democrats taught the Nazis" since every Jim Crow racist law was thought up, created, signed into law, and enforced...By Democrats.

"Whitman’s “smoking gun” is the transcript of a June 5, 1934, conference of leading German lawyers gathered to exchange ideas about how best to operationalize a racist regime. The record reflects how the most extreme among them, who relied on Krieger’s synoptic scholarship, were especially drawn to American legal codes based on white supremacy. The main conceptual idea was Freisler’s. Race, he argued, is a political construction. In both America and Germany, the importance and meaning of race for the most part had been determined less by scientific realities or social conventions than by political decisions enshrined in law."
In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States.

See, your misunderstanding stems from confusing party affiliation with ideology. Back then it was the conservatives in the Democratic Party who 'codified' racism. Hell, back then there were lots of liberal Republicans, too, and still were in my lifetime.
Different nowadays, sure, but it's still a new development that conservatives are all GOP and liberals mostly Democrats. Reagan and Goldwater and other western conservatives pretty much crowded out the liberals from the east and made the Republican Party a conservative bastion and attracted the southern conservatives (Dixiecrats) away from the Democratic Party.
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

I agree, there is no reason for us to be stationed in Germany.
Russia isn’t going to start anything. I don’t see Russia as a threat.
If Russia was going to secure possession of parts of Europe they would never have relinquished control over the Eastern Bloc countries and Baltic Countries.
 
See, your misunderstanding stems from confusing party affiliation with ideology. Back then it was the conservatives in the Democratic Party who 'codified' racism. Hell, back then there were lots of liberal Republicans, too, and still were in my lifetime.

This progressive lie is utilized by democrats to hold on to political power and control those they have no business in controlling.
I don't blame you for it. Progressives have been pushing this lie for generations to escape their responsibilities in eugenics, fascism, their ties to Nazis, etc. (Whitman is a progressive democrat so he has to obfuscate and call democrats "Americans" instead of noting that 100% of these were and are democrats.)

Honest Abe himself will thoroughly refute your either uninformed or flat out agenda driven incorrect opinion. I cast no judgement. Merely correction.

Abraham Lincoln Online

"But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the "gur-reat pur-rinciple" that "if one man would enslave another, no third man should object," fantastically called "Popular Sovereignty;" but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live." Not one of all your various plans can show a precedent or an advocate in the century within which our Government originated. Consider, then, whether your claim of conservatism for yourselves, and your charge or destructiveness against us, are based on the most clear and stable foundations.

Again, you say we have made the slavery question more prominent than it formerly was. We deny it. We admit that it is more prominent, but we deny that we made it so. It was not we, but you, who discarded the old policy of the fathers. We resisted, and still resist, your innovation; and thence comes the greater prominence of the question. Would you have that question reduced to its former proportions? Go back to that old policy. What has been will be again, under the same conditions. If you would have the peace of the old times, readopt the precepts and policy of the old times."

Interesting that you would look to the same type argument that Taney used to justify slavery in his dredd scott brief. This brings progressives and democrats in a straight line from supporting trail of tears, sharecropping, slavery, welfare, support of minority abortions, straight to you...today, here, and now.

Lincoln did not even see slavery as a racial issue. It was and is an issue of theft and unfairness contrary to the conservative views of the founding fathers and their bedrock documents of the country.

Slavery was doomed until Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin and one democrat party unabashedly stepped forth to represent the slave industry.

Theft and unfairness were and are primary qualities of the democrat party.

Republicans were formed to opposed them.

Don't believe it?

Lets look.



Rife with policies of taking from one group of people and giving to another.

If America is so awful why are democrats paying for, encouraging, and organizing caravans of families to die in rivers trying to get here?
 
I'm pro moving American troops out of Europe.

It's a lot cheaper to station American troops in America. If we see that the Russians are about to invade, we can send troops back to Europe.

And Europe really needs to start taking care of it's defense more.

You have no idea what you are talking about!!!

I was part of a reforger mission you have no idea what it takes to pick up an entire military base and move it to Germany...
 
no doubt the English will continue to genuflect at the US alter along with Poland

when we leave the UK the dotard trump and america will receive two fingers from Scotland, already posted on that yank ambassador to poland's twitter feed and told her what i thought about her and america

why doesn't the US get all of it's occupation forces out of Western Europe we don't or need want you

US threatens to withdraw troops from Germany | News | DW | 09.08.2019

Godric1970:

Offer too much overt resistance to the USA and rump UK or raise your archers' fingers to Ameica too many times and you may find Scotland on the receiving end of Anglo-American unconventional warfare that leaves Scotland an economic basket case. Sub bases and air bases will still be demanded of you and if Scotland pursues a foreign policy which is too maverick or too unaligned with either the rest of Britain or the USA, than it could become the next Venezuela.

You should proceed more carefully or your zealotry and animus may destroy that which you claim to love the most.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
You mean Southern Dixiecrats who all turned Republican after Nixon promised them he would put civil rights on the back burner. It's not the Democrats fault that the racist South refused to vote for the party of Lincoln for 100 years. It was Democrats that passed and signed the Civil Rights amendment that ended segregation. The racist South turned red after that and remains so to this day with the blessings of the GOP.


Republicans hate factual history, they love to try to bull**** people with "alternative facts" in hopes that the general public is as ignorant as they are and will believe that their deception...
 
I agree, there is no reason for us to be stationed in Germany.
Russia isn’t going to start anything. I don’t see Russia as a threat.
If Russia was going to secure possession of parts of Europe they would never have relinquished control over the Eastern Bloc countries and Baltic Countries.


Do you consider Iran or others in the middle East threats???
 
Two guys is not a "conservative Bastion" of dixiecrat switches....

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LOL Thanks for not arguing that Nixon enticed the Dixiecrats in the South to vote Republican and that the racist south remains Republican to this day. Like I said you can't blame the Democrats for the fact that racists would not vote for the party of Lincoln for 100 years. You can however blame Nixon for courting the Dixiecrats and embracing their racism with open arms. That is why they lost the black vote forever.
 
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