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    Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Boris sees his majority in the house of commons cut to ONE

    In a by-election the Tory (conservative) candidate has lost his seat and was replaced by the candidate of the LibDems, the pro-Europe party so to speak. Even with the support of the DUP the majority of his government was cut to one seat. So any 2 dissidents in his own party can sink his government.

    The by-election was necessary because of a petition of voters to unseat him after a conviction for a false expenses claim. But the Tory's ran the same candidate because last time he had a majority of 8,038 voters but in this election there was a swing of almost 9,500 votes. From an 8 thousand plus majority his opponent, LibDem candidate Jane Dodds now has a majority of 1,425 votes.

    So the situation of Boris's his government is precarious. In fact his government only has a majority because the Sinn Fein members of parliament never show up in parliament and do never vote. If they showed up and participated in the house of commons the government would fall because with those 7 seats filled he would not have a majority. But as the Sinn Fein MP's are abolitionists and want to make Northern Ireland part of a united Ireland, they never come to Westminster.
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    Re: Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Boris sees his majority in the house of commons cut to ONE

    In a by-election the Tory (conservative) candidate has lost his seat and was replaced by the candidate of the LibDems, the pro-Europe party so to speak. Even with the support of the DUP the majority of his government was cut to one seat. So any 2 dissidents in his own party can sink his government.

    The by-election was necessary because of a petition of voters to unseat him after a conviction for a false expenses claim. But the Tory's ran the same candidate because last time he had a majority of 8,038 voters but in this election there was a swing of almost 9,500 votes. From an 8 thousand plus majority his opponent, LibDem candidate Jane Dodds now has a majority of 1,425 votes.

    So the situation of Boris's his government is precarious. In fact his government only has a majority because the Sinn Fein members of parliament never show up in parliament and do never vote. If they showed up and participated in the house of commons the government would fall because with those 7 seats filled he would not have a majority. But as the Sinn Fein MP's are abolitionists and want to make Northern Ireland part of a united Ireland, they never come to Westminster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Thank you. We Americans miss much happening in Europe.
    Well it mean that Trump's mini me has just one more defector to go until he no longer has a majority and if he tries to force through Brexit with no deal I am pretty sure some in his party will jump ship to the LibDems or go rogue and go on as independents.

    And to understand what happens on both sides of the Atlantic you need to be a political junkie, like me. I cannot wait until the presidential election really gets going. It is going to be a few years before I get to vote here in the Netherlands so a nice exciting US election will really tide me over until we get going here.

    PS. Our election compared to the US one is boring, 6 weeks of campaigning. No masses of campaign ads, no bombardment with phone calls and as a whole most of our politicians act like decent human beings during the electoral process.
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    Re: Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Out of those who actually showed up (the vote was down from the General Election) the total Brexit (if you count the Conservatives as a monolithic pro-Brexit bloc) vote was higher than the obvious pro Remain vote so that needs to be factored in.
    This rural area voted leave in the referendum and that desire shows little sign of diminishing.
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    Re: Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Out of those who actually showed up (the vote was down from the General Election) the total Brexit (if you count the Conservatives as a monolithic pro-Brexit bloc) vote was higher than the obvious pro Remain vote so that needs to be factored in.
    This rural area voted leave in the referendum and that desire shows little sign of diminishing.
    It was the highest by-election turnout for over 20 years though. From the perspective of a neighbouring constituency I'd guess the Conservative bloc was more pro local boyo than anything else. One farm I drive past there has had a series of Remain etc posters by the main road since the referendum.

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    Re: Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Boris sees his majority in the house of commons cut to ONE

    In a by-election the Tory (conservative) candidate has lost his seat and was replaced by the candidate of the LibDems, the pro-Europe party so to speak. Even with the support of the DUP the majority of his government was cut to one seat. So any 2 dissidents in his own party can sink his government.

    The by-election was necessary because of a petition of voters to unseat him after a conviction for a false expenses claim. But the Tory's ran the same candidate because last time he had a majority of 8,038 voters but in this election there was a swing of almost 9,500 votes. From an 8 thousand plus majority his opponent, LibDem candidate Jane Dodds now has a majority of 1,425 votes.

    So the situation of Boris's his government is precarious. In fact his government only has a majority because the Sinn Fein members of parliament never show up in parliament and do never vote. If they showed up and participated in the house of commons the government would fall because with those 7 seats filled he would not have a majority. But as the Sinn Fein MP's are abolitionists and want to make Northern Ireland part of a united Ireland, they never come to Westminster.
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    the rat faced liar Swinson will lose her seat ... she only got in due to Tory/Labour voting tactically .... all that's gone due to bad blood between the 3 unionist parties in Scotland
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    Bringing down Johnson would not guarantee that the conservatives would not just put up another prime minister. Worst case scenario would be the Queen order a minority government formed so not likely to favor the left much anyway until the next election.

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    Re: Brecon and Radnorshire by-election: Lib Dems beat Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    Bringing down Johnson would not guarantee that the conservatives would not just put up another prime minister. .
    But anyone they came up with would need to win a vote of confidence, and with more than one Concervative MP talking about defecting that would be difficult for them to do without working with other parties.

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