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Tommy Robinson Given 9 Months in Prison, as UK Simultaneously Creates 'Committee for Journalists Saf

truthatallcost said:
I'll make this brief, since we're repeating ourselves now;

1. The English equivalent of the Brown shirts were the Black shirts, not the EDL. The very idea of an organization which claims its mission to be protecting the rights of the English is offensive to you and those like you. You will perceive any such person as 'scum', regardless of whether they're violent or not.

2. You will find ways to minimize and run interference for the most grotesque and barbaric practices of some people, while prudishly demanding that other people live up to some ridiculously impossible standards of morality.
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Except the brownshirts were the SA, I could give a flying crap what the English nazi's marched around in. The Brownshirts were the thugs of the Nazi party. The EDL is also a bunch of thugs. That you think differently is your right, I however call it as I see it.

I minimize very little, barbaric is barbaric and the EDL is also a bunch of barbaric idiots. That in the Middle East there are even worse barbaric idiots is true but I call them terrorists and not simply barbaric idiots.

And I demand nothing to live up to normal standards of morality, I however expose, ridicule and call out idiots who do not have any standard of morality in our Western Society. Simply put that is why I call Yaxley-Lennon what he truly is, an agitating muslim hating bigoted hate monger.
 
truthatallcost said:
What I was referring to was the repeated successful cover ups which took place in the UK for 20 years. Why do you comment on matters you know nothing about?
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That, coming from you, has irony meters exploding all around
Responding to you seems to be an exercise in futility. Whatever your area of expertise is, it doesn't seem to include any of the topics you comment on.
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That, coming from you, has irony meters exploding all around
 
truthatallcost said:
I'll make this brief, since we're repeating ourselves now;
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Well, seeing how you're always posting the same garbage, no matter how often you are shown to be wrong, what makes you think you're entitled to a different response every time?

1. The English equivalent of the Brown shirts were the Black shirts, not the EDL. The very idea of an organization which claims its mission to be protecting the rights of the English is offensive to you and those like you. You will perceive any such person as 'scum', regardless of whether they're violent or not.
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Nazis are Nazis, whatever their choice of attire or its color. What they claim to be doing other than being Nazis is irrelevant.

2. You will find ways to minimize and run interference for the most grotesque and barbaric practices of some people, while prudishly demanding that other people live up to some ridiculously impossible standards of morality.
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If you have problems with living up to any standard of morality, the solution cannot be sought with others.
 
truthatallcost said:
Hmm, one has earned the distinction of being designated a Global Terrorist by the US State Department, while the other had a few dust ups, and filmed a courthouse. That makes them equal in your book. Both 'pure scum'. Cool story Serenity.
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Both hate filled pieces of ****.

Yep. Scum.

Sorry if that makes your tummy hurt and it's just destroyed your moronic comment suggesting people don't criticize Choudary.

Before you say anything else stupid on that you might want to search my posts on him.

Good day.
 
Serenity said:
Both hate filled pieces of ****.

Yep. Scum.

Sorry if that makes your tummy hurt and it's just destroyed your moronic comment suggesting people don't criticize Choudary.

Before you say anything else stupid on that you might want to search my posts on him.

Good day.
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I can feel the anger in your tone, which is what I'm trying to get at here, because all one has to do in order to see liberals become unhinged with anger is to mention the name Tommy Robinson'. And I can't for the life of me, figure out why. The guy hasn't raped, killed, maimed, or crippled anyone, yet he's your version of Osama Bin Laden. Truly, I'll never understand the mentality of hating words more than violent acts. The left confounds my thinking.
 
truthatallcost said:
Hmm, one has earned the distinction of being designated a Global Terrorist by the US State Department, while the other had a few dust ups, and filmed a courthouse. That makes them equal in your book. Both 'pure scum'. Cool story Serenity.
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Both scum, but one piece of scum got 9 months and the other even bigger piece of scum got 5 years and 6 months. Both got punished accordingly to their crimes. End of discussion IMHO about Choudary.
 
truthatallcost said:
I can feel the anger in your tone, which is what I'm trying to get at here, because all one has to do in order to see liberals become unhinged with anger is to mention the name Tommy Robinson'. And I can't for the life of me, figure out why. The guy hasn't raped, killed, maimed, or crippled anyone, yet he's your version of Osama Bin Laden. Truly, I'll never understand the mentality of hating words more than violent acts. The left confounds my thinking.
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That is not so much anger as disdain for human filth like Yaxley-Lennon and terrorist scummy filth bastards like Choudary. Saying we agree with locking both up says nothing about how we view the 2.

Also, you are repeating your utterly ridiculous :bs that he is the lefts version of Osama Bin Laden, which is total, utter, complete and stupid nonsense. Our Osama Bin Laden is Osama Bin Laden, the man the left wanted hunted down immediately but the conservative right decided to get distracted by settling old scores with Saddam. Was I happy Saddam left office? Sure, but not at the expense of not hunting down Bin Laden. If we had done that the terrorist movement might have been much weaker now. So no, our Bin Laden is Bin Laden. Yaxley-Lennon is just a disgusting piece of filth, nothing more and nothing less.
 
truthatallcost said:
I can feel the anger in your tone, which is what I'm trying to get at here, because all one has to do in order to see liberals become unhinged with anger is to mention the name Tommy Robinson'. And I can't for the life of me, figure out why. The guy hasn't raped, killed, maimed, or crippled anyone, yet he's your version of Osama Bin Laden. Truly, I'll never understand the mentality of hating words more than violent acts. The left confounds my thinking.
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By the same perverted logic, Goebbels was no big deal.

It isn't the left that confounds your thinking, it's your wretched ideology that goes against all logic and thus leaves you utterly devoid of any such thing.

Add to all of that your blatant dishonesty and you need be defined no more as what sort of poster you are.

It's no wonder that you worship Yaxley.
 
Chagos said:
~ Add to all of that your blatant dishonesty and you need be defined no more as what sort of poster you are.

It's no wonder that you worship Yaxley.
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He's effective with the already converted and those who parrot the same views. He's not effective in the slightest with anyone with a bare modicum of thinking skills or interest in facts and logic.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
He's effective with the already converted and those who parrot the same views. He's not effective in the slightest with anyone with a bare modicum of thinking skills or interest in facts and logic.
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As voted for by 2.2% of the constituency he stood for in the European Parliament elections.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
He's effective with the already converted and those who parrot the same views. He's not effective in the slightest with anyone with a bare modicum of thinking skills or interest in facts and logic.
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Sven Karma said:
As voted for by 2.2% of the constituency he stood for in the European Parliament elections.
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In principle, a certain type of social failure has to band together with those sharing that deficit, so as to feel as not being alone and thus gaining a feeling of self-worth that others (those more adequately equipped) achieve by simply pulling upon their own boot straps and taking responsibility for themselves.

If within that group one can become the biggest attention whore of the lot and thus succeed in garnering publicity by any means, the way to leadership of that community is just a matter of time.

The only trouble for these deluded twits being that they're not in the very specific circumstances of Germany in the early 30s and are therefore not going anywhere at all, other than within their self-echoing bubble of delusion.

Apart from being the ideal target for emotive address, Yaxley-Lennon is most demonstrably (and therefore factually) stupid and that assessment can validly be extended to all his supporters.
 
Peter King said:
Both scum, but one piece of scum got 9 months and the other even bigger piece of scum got 5 years and 6 months. Both got punished accordingly to their crimes. End of discussion IMHO about Choudary.
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Two of Choudary's loyal followers beheaded Lee Rigby in broad daylight, on a London street Peter. Choudary's release from prison will only serve to agitate the radical Islamic presence in the UK. Choudary was hoping to use the failed ISIL caliphate to overthrow the UK, and usher in an Islamic State in Britain. That's been his dream all along. Then we have Tommy Robinson, another 'extremist' in the eyes of some, whose crime was..... filming a building!! Yes, the great English people have been subverted and perverted by a very satanic force in the world.
 
Peter King said:
That is not so much anger as disdain for human filth like Yaxley-Lennon and terrorist scummy filth bastards like Choudary. Saying we agree with locking both up says nothing about how we view the 2.

Also, you are repeating your utterly ridiculous :bs that he is the lefts version of Osama Bin Laden, which is total, utter, complete and stupid nonsense. Our Osama Bin Laden is Osama Bin Laden, the man the left wanted hunted down immediately but the conservative right decided to get distracted by settling old scores with Saddam. Was I happy Saddam left office? Sure, but not at the expense of not hunting down Bin Laden. If we had done that the terrorist movement might have been much weaker now. So no, our Bin Laden is Bin Laden. Yaxley-Lennon is just a disgusting piece of filth, nothing more and nothing less.
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Not to embark on a trip to the rabbit hole, but Bill Clinton was offered Bin Laden no less than 9 times, and refused to engage. Clinton was a *****, Bush was a war monger. Its that simple, and it's why OBL operated for 20 years as a terrorist.

If Robinson we're done away with tomorrow, it wouldn't change any of the corruption or deceit in the UK and EU. He's a very small player on the political scene, and not someone who wields much power. So exerting undue hatred and vitriol at Tommy Robinson makes me question the motives of his haters. I think that they are directing so much hate at Robinson precisely because he's a small fish in a large pond, and because you can call Robinson scum without that tinge of guilt you feel when you call Islamic terrorists scum, for example.
 
truthatallcost said:
Not to embark on a trip to the rabbit hole, but Bill Clinton was offered Bin Laden no less than 9 times, and refused to engage. Clinton was a *****, Bush was a war monger. Its that simple, and it's why OBL operated for 20 years as a terrorist.

If Robinson we're done away with tomorrow, it wouldn't change any of the corruption or deceit in the UK and EU. He's a very small player on the political scene, and not someone who wields much power. So exerting undue hatred and vitriol at Tommy Robinson makes me question the motives of his haters. I think that they are directing so much hate at Robinson precisely because he's a small fish in a large pond, and because you can call Robinson scum without that tinge of guilt you feel when you call Islamic terrorists scum, for example.
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Fortunately, what you think or what any of your asinine deductions lead you to question, matters not a damn to overall British society.

As to your equally dishonest claim of OBL having been offered 9 times to the US (under whatever administration), I'd ask anyone else for evidence.

But seeing it's you, why bother?
 
truthatallcost said:
Two of Choudary's loyal followers beheaded Lee Rigby in broad daylight, on a London street Peter. Choudary's release from prison will only serve to agitate the radical Islamic presence in the UK. Choudary was hoping to use the failed ISIL caliphate to overthrow the UK, and usher in an Islamic State in Britain. That's been his dream all along. Then we have Tommy Robinson, another 'extremist' in the eyes of some, whose crime was..... filming a building!! Yes, the great English people have been subverted and perverted by a very satanic force in the world.
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Seeing how you know nothing of the English people, any post of yours that attempts to describe them only makes you look more foolish every time.
 
truthatallcost said:
Not to embark on a trip to the rabbit hole, but Bill Clinton was offered Bin Laden no less than 9 times, and refused to engage. Clinton was a *****, Bush was a war monger. Its that simple, and it's why OBL operated for 20 years as a terrorist.

If Robinson we're done away with tomorrow, it wouldn't change any of the corruption or deceit in the UK and EU. He's a very small player on the political scene, and not someone who wields much power. So exerting undue hatred and vitriol at Tommy Robinson makes me question the motives of his haters. I think that they are directing so much hate at Robinson precisely because he's a small fish in a large pond, and because you can call Robinson scum without that tinge of guilt you feel when you call Islamic terrorists scum, for example.
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What does Yaxley-Lennon's nonsense have to do with the EU? And he has done nothing to fight corruption or deceit in the UK. He was too stupid to follow a judges rules after falling afoul of them not too long ago and receiving a suspended sentence at that time. Normally for a person with some intelligence that would mean that they would try and avoid the law breaking behavior but the fake martyr of right wing islam haters thought he was above the law, well he was not and he now has to suffer the consequences.

He is not a small player, he is a lowlife of the political field, someone who preys on hatred and spreads and enlarges that hatred. And the only reason we write about Yaxley-Lennon is because you keep bringing up the thug scumbag. You seem to have an obsession with this lowlife hate monger which is why we need to correct your nonsensical glowing claims about Yaxley-Lennon.
 
truthatallcost said:
Two of Choudary's loyal followers beheaded Lee Rigby in broad daylight, on a London street Peter. Choudary's release from prison will only serve to agitate the radical Islamic presence in the UK. Choudary was hoping to use the failed ISIL caliphate to overthrow the UK, and usher in an Islamic State in Britain. That's been his dream all along. Then we have Tommy Robinson, another 'extremist' in the eyes of some, whose crime was..... filming a building!! Yes, the great English people have been subverted and perverted by a very satanic force in the world.
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You mean he was breaking the law? Or does that still not compute in your illogical brain? He was breaching the ruling of the court, he was violating the sanctity of the legal process, he was doing it just to spread hatred and he has been punished for this crime before, what Yaxley-Lennon is should surprise no one, he is a thick idiotic thuggish hatemongering criminal.
 
Peter King said:
You mean he was breaking the law? Or does that still not compute in your illogical brain? He was breaching the ruling of the court, he was violating the sanctity of the legal process, he was doing it just to spread hatred and he has been punished for this crime before, what Yaxley-Lennon is should surprise no one, he is a thick idiotic thuggish hatemongering criminal.
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I've proven my case already.
 
Kiwimac said:
Nope

There's a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in.
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In his case there are cracks large enough to sail a US carrier group through, side by side, not one after the other.
 
TheParser said:
I join other members (and guests) in expressing best wishes to Mr. Robinson.

Hopefully, his lawyers can do something to make sure that he is not beaten up or raped in that prison.

What has happened to England in the last several decades is very sad. Maybe the new prime minister can do something to improve the situation.
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Let's call the criminal by his real name. Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon.
 
Robinson was convicted in 2011 of using "threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour" during a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton the previous year. Robinson reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting a 100-man brawl, during which he chanted "EDL till I die". He was sentenced to a 12-month community rehabilitation order with 150 hours' unpaid work and a three-year ban from attending football matches.[7][6]

Robinson was arrested again after an EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets in September 2011 for breach of bail conditions, as he had been banned from attending that demonstration. Robinson later began a hunger strike while on remand in HM Prison Bedford, saying that he was a "political prisoner of the state",[46] and refused to eat what he believed was halal meat.[47] A handful of EDL supporters protested outside the prison in support of Robinson during his incarceration; the support peaked at a turnout of 100 protesters on 10 September.[48] Robinson was released on bail on 12 September.[49]

On 29 September 2011, Robinson was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn in April that year.[9][6] He was sentenced to 12 weeks' imprisonment, suspended for 12 months.[10]

On 8 November 2011, Robinson held a protest on the rooftop of the FIFA headquarters in Zürich against FIFA's ruling that the England national football team could not wear a Remembrance poppy symbol on their shirts.[6] For this he was fined £3,000 and jailed for three days.[50]

Tommy Robinson (activist) - Wikipedia
 
TheParser said:
I join other members (and guests) in expressing best wishes to Mr. Robinson.

Hopefully, his lawyers can do something to make sure that he is not beaten up or raped in that prison.

What has happened to England in the last several decades is very sad. Maybe the new prime minister can do something to improve the situation.
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I have no best wishes for Yaxley-Lennon, he has committed a crime and now must do his crime.

I do hope he will not come to harm in jail, especially not rape so I hope the prison system protects him because even hatemongers deserve to sit out their jail term in safety.

And with Boris Johnson as leader the UK will actually go through a very bad future because Boris is an idiot and will make the situation much worse.
 
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