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    Re: What makes a country "great" and is there a "greatest country" right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    This moronically ignores factual history. I stated in my first post please go do some basic research. It’s clear you haven’t bothered but seem to have your history dictated to you from the white nationalists history playbook .
    I was wondering when you'd get around to that tired, old leftist standby that's normally a sign the well is running dry. Honestly, I don't view this as a racial issue. The characteristics I described--the lack of the rule of law, ethnic and tribal rivalries, cronyism, political patronage, warfare--we find all over the world: the Middle East, the former Republics of the USSR, Asia, Latin America. And Europeans/Caucasians aren't immune to it. You could take the word "Balkanization" to describe part of what I'm alluding to. The reason I zeroed in on Africa is because: 1) there are numerous countries there; and 2) the continent has about 3,000 distinct tribes/ethnic groups that are the source of a lot of dysfunction. It's a cauldron for factionalism/conflict.

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    Cold war. I'm not here to educate you but that's a clue for some starting research for what that meant in Africa and Southern Americas but I'd bet that admitting geo-politics helped put incompetents into power doesn’t register.
    You need to educate yourself that Lumumba was fighting an insurgency based on the fact that the people who occupied the territory where the wealth was didn't want to share. Anyway, I'm interested in seeing how you're going to connect the dots demonstrating that countries like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and Angola were CIA puppets with CIA-installed dictators. You win a pretzel if you can do that.

    Mozambique’s 44 years of freedom: Communism, corruption, heroin

    Angola: The fall of the dos Santos clan

    Zimbabwe tries to retrieve cash smuggled overseas in Mugabe era
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    Re: What makes a country "great" and is there a "greatest country" right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I was wondering when you'd get around to that tired, old leftist standby that's normally a sign the well is running dry. Honestly, I don't view this as a racial issue. The characteristics I described--the lack of the rule of law, ethnic and tribal rivalries, cronyism, political patronage, warfare--we find all over the world: the Middle East, the former Republics of the USSR, Asia, Latin America. And Europeans/Caucasians aren't immune to it. You could take the word "Balkanization" to describe part of what I'm alluding to. The reason I zeroed in on Africa is because: 1) there are numerous countries there; and 2) the continent has about 3,000 distinct tribes/ethnic groups that are the source of a lot of dysfunction. It's a cauldron for factionalism/conflict.



    You need to educate yourself that Lumumba was fighting an insurgency based on the fact that the people who occupied the territory where the wealth was didn't want to share. Anyway, I'm interested in seeing how you're going to connect the dots demonstrating that countries like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and Angola were CIA puppets with CIA-installed dictators. You win a pretzel if you can do that.

    Mozambique’s 44 years of freedom: Communism, corruption, heroin

    Angola: The fall of the dos Santos clan

    Zimbabwe tries to retrieve cash smuggled overseas in Mugabe era
    Congratulations, you've gone in a big fat circle back to my original response to you three in post 92 - that answers your silly question about the countries bordering South Africa. Then to answer your first point, you quoted and agreed with a well known but incompetent white nationalist in post 88.

    Seems like you are saving me responding further as you confirm 1) you haven't done any basic reading and 2) you're not interested in reading around history. You basically read what you wanted (probably from very questionable American foundations and websites) and no further. History means reading a vast array around the subject which helps you to piece events and facts together.

    I waste no more time with you. You made your mind up before you read the poor quality research you found and your have no interest in changing the reading you do. Goodbye.
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    Re: What makes a country "great" and is there a "greatest country" right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Congratulations, you've gone in a big fat circle back to my original response to you three in post 92 - that answers your silly question about the countries bordering South Africa. Then to answer your first point, you quoted and agreed with a well known but incompetent white nationalist in post 88.

    Seems like you are saving me responding further as you confirm 1) you haven't done any basic reading and 2) you're not interested in reading around history. You basically read what you wanted (probably from very questionable American foundations and websites) and no further. History means reading a vast array around the subject which helps you to piece events and facts together.

    I waste no more time with you. You made your mind up before you read the poor quality research you found and your have no interest in changing the reading you do. Goodbye.
    So now it's not the CIA but the white South Africans who are responsible for the failings of the corrupt, inept Marxist-Leninist-inspired governments of Mozambique, Angola, and Zimbabwe? They, for example, put a gun to Jose Filomeno dos Santos' head and forced him to loot the Angolan central bank? These governments had, at a minimum, twenty-five years to get their **** together and haven't done it. Why is that? The legacy of apartheid? Scheming, evil white people? So who's responsible for the corruption in South Africa under the leftist ANC's watch? That's the result of apartheid, too, or are you going to blame the white Americans and Euros who railed against apartheid and supported the divestiture and sanctions movements? But then those are the good white people, right? Or are there any good white people?

    Yeah, I think when logic betrayed me and I'd run out of arguments I'd just obliquely call my opponent a bigot and fold up my tent, too.

    ANC corruption is a major cause of South Africa’s failure – and the polls will show it
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