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Far-right AfD becomes 'strongest force in state of Brandenburg' for first time

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Alternative for Germany (AfD) is the strongest force in Brandenburg, the neighbouring state to Berlin, for the first time, according to a new poll. But the Greens are also on the up.

Ahead of a state election on September 1st, the survey, by Infratest dimap on behalf of regional broadcaster RBB 24, saw the AfD score 21 percent of the vote. That’s an increase of two percentage points compared to the last poll in April.

It comes after AfD won the largest share of the vote in Brandenburg in the European elections, with 19.9 percent.

In second place is the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD), who currently lead the state government in a coalition. A total of 18 percent of respondents said they would vote for the SPD, a drop of four points since the last poll.

The Greens also increased their share of the vote by five percentage points in the poll, reaching 17 percent. The centre-right Christian Democrats (CDU) also scooped 17 percent in the survey, a drop of three points.

Meanwhile, The Left (Die Linke) won 14 percent (minus two points), while the pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) would make it into the parliament, according to this poll, as they reached five percent.

The Freie Wähler (Free Voters) received four percent in the survey, missing the parliament threshold of five percent.

Yet despite the downward spiral of the Social Democrats, the poll also showed most people (48 percent) would like State Premier Dietmar Woidke of the SPD to remain head of the government.

His CDU challenger Ingo Senftleben received 11 percent of the vote, while eight percent of respondents would like to see the AfD's top candidate, Andreas Kalbitz as head of government.

Far-right AfD becomes 'strongest force in state of Brandenburg' for first time - The Local

The state of Brandenburg surrounds the city-state and national capital Berlin. The largely communist Die Linke party appears to be losing support, while AfD & the Greens polled +2% & +5% respectively. Premier Woidke's position seems secure for now, but a sampling size of 1000 voters in a state of 2.5 million people gives hope to those who'd like an alternative for Brandenburg, and Germany.
 
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The state of Brandenburg surrounds the city-state and national capital Berlin. The largely communist Die Linke party appears to be losing support, while AfD & the Greens polled +2% respectively. Premier Woidke's position seems secure for now, but a sampling size of 1000 voters in a state of 2.5 million people gives hope to those who'd like an alternative for Brandenburg, and Germany.

1. it is a poll, not a vote

2. it is just a few percentages above the number 2

3. still only 21% which means 79% vote for other parties

4. there are always coalitions in Germany (normally) and I am not sure anybody wants to rule with the Afd.
 
Alternative to rational people indeed.
 
and God bless them for it. though I don't agree with the "far-right" BS label...

One thing (one of many glorious things) I seen when I was over there, and I hit Hamburg, Berlin, Wittenberg, Leipzig, Weimar, Erfurt, Eisenbach, Bad Hersfeld, Koningswald, and Hannover is that German's ain't too pleased with the foreigners.

Don't let the Lügenpresse fool you...
 
Far-right, anti-immigrant nationalism in Germany. What could possibly go wrong. /s

Thankfully, most Germans do not ingest this alternative-to-facts feces. :thumbs:
 
and God bless them for it. though I don't agree with the "far-right" BS label...

One thing (one of many glorious things) I seen when I was over there, and I hit Hamburg, Berlin, Wittenberg, Leipzig, Weimar, Erfurt, Eisenbach, Bad Hersfeld, Koningswald, and Hannover is that German's ain't too pleased with the foreigners.

Don't let the Lügenpresse fool you...

They're extremely far right. It's got nothing to do with Lügenpresse; it's got everything to do with your rejection of basic reality.
 
They're extremely far right. It's got nothing to do with Lügenpresse; it's got everything to do with your rejection of basic reality.

Uh huh....:coffeepap
 
1. it is a poll, not a vote ~

Shhh.... The thread like many others is simply here to fool Americans and look.. we already have two celebrating how a POLL means the end of multi-culti and Liberal values and the rise of their beloved far right.
 
They're extremely far right. It's got nothing to do with Lügenpresse; it's got everything to do with your rejection of basic reality.

Uh huh....:coffeepap

@Tanngrisnir - Yes, it is, the AfD Brandenburg party leader has had pictures leaked of him at neo-Nazi rallies and camps.
 
@Tanngrisnir - Yes, it is, the AfD Brandenburg party leader has had pictures leaked of him at neo-Nazi rallies and camps.

oh, well hell, cuz you said so? :roll:
 
Brandenburg (the state, not the city) is one of the most sparsely populated German states with an average of 84 people per square km and if the city state of Berlin (that is surrounded by Brandenburg) didn't have its suburban sleeping quarters there, it would be even less.

Prussian Siberia some call it although Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (Baltic coast) is an even closer contender.

Neither (nor any other state in what used to be GDR) having a hope in hell of seeing the Nazis run Germany in the foreseeable future.
 
and God bless them for it. though I don't agree with the "far-right" BS label.......~
nobody cares what you agree with or don't, generally speaking in all of Germany and particularly in Brandenburg.
 
nobody cares what you agree with or don't, generally speaking in all of Germany and particularly in Brandenburg.

Same for you Chag
 
No, because objective reality says so.

Enjoy your magical thinking!
The usual ploy of the racist bigots in the AfD, deny, deny, deny and then play victim. No idea whether the poster is any kind of Nazi but his support for this kind of scum speaks volumes.

No need to dwell further on the OP, we all know about HIM. :roll:
 
@Tanngrisnir - Yes, it is, the AfD Brandenburg party leader has had pictures leaked of him at neo-Nazi rallies and camps.
He's into the neo-Nazi scene right up to his hairdo (if he had any hair, that is). Attending any rally or camp is the least of his activities in that respect.
 
Brandenburg (the state, not the city) is one of the most sparsely populated German states with an average of 84 people per square km and if the city state of Berlin (that is surrounded by Brandenburg) didn't have its suburban sleeping quarters there, it would be even less.

Prussian Siberia some call it although Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (Baltic coast) is an even closer contender.

Neither (nor any other state in what used to be GDR) having a hope in hell of seeing the Nazis run Germany in the foreseeable future.

In fact ive heard that Germany has a more solid safeguard than most countries against nazis taking over.
 
Same for you Chag

You aren't allowed to disagree with DP's #1 active narcissist don't cha know, or face the wrath of hundreds of pointless personal attacks against you by Chagos, 3rd Earl of Squat.
 
The usual ploy of the racist bigots in the AfD, deny, deny, deny and then play victim. No idea whether the poster is any kind of Nazi but his support for this kind of scum speaks volumes.

No need to dwell further on the OP, we all know about HIM. :roll:

OR....perhaps, just perhaps, people who aren't listened to -- and believe me, from the way my conversations went, a lot of people aren't being listened to -- find refuge with those who'll listen.

So it isn't so much that they're supporting Nazi's (if they are or not is really irrelevant, nothing of Germany's horrific past will return, that is a certainty) as they are supporting the position of limited immigration.

When no other party is making a meaningful attempt to stop this madness, what should those people do? Just throw their rifles in the field? No. They're going to throw their support behind those who would treat the immigration problem the way they want to see it handled. The only reason most people haven't switched over is because they're still naive enough to think that their "respectable" parties are going to come to their senses.



BTW -- We've both been around here long enough to know that whole "he's a racist, Nazi, bigot" mishugas doesn't work on me, I only laugh at that silly ****, encourage you to call me it again, because it only makes the accuser look the fool.
 
and God bless them for it. though I don't agree with the "far-right" BS label...

One thing (one of many glorious things) I seen when I was over there, and I hit Hamburg, Berlin, Wittenberg, Leipzig, Weimar, Erfurt, Eisenbach, Bad Hersfeld, Koningswald, and Hannover is that German's ain't too pleased with the foreigners.

Don't let the Lügenpresse fool you...

Sieg Heil! Down with foreigners! :roll:
 
In fact ive heard that Germany has a more solid safeguard than most countries against nazis taking over.
I don't know about "most" countries but current nation wide polls in Germany (polls, mind you) have the AfD at 12 pct (same polling source as the OP cites).

In the recent European election they made 11 pct.
 
You aren't allowed to disagree with DP's #1 active narcissist don't cha know, or face the wrath of hundreds of pointless personal attacks against you by Chagos, 3rd Earl of Squat.

Bomber Harris do it again
 
You aren't allowed to disagree with DP's #1 active narcissist don't cha know, or face the wrath of hundreds of pointless personal attacks against you by Chagos, 3rd Earl of Squat.


If he's calling me names, he's leaving someone else alone.:shrug:

The point is as I said in #20
 
OR....perhaps, just perhaps, people who aren't listened to -- and believe me, from the way my conversations went, a lot of people aren't being listened to -- find refuge with those who'll listen.
The reason that most Germans won't listen to the AfD is because they realize (unlike the blind AfD supporters) that the AfD's promises aren't worth the air they're transported on.

IOW a stop to immigration plus deportation of all those who have been granted asylum or other immigrant status won't change a thing about what the AfD supporters consider their woes to be. There are two things to consider here, one being that the AfD has practically no other program than the immigration spin its running on, the second being that the areas of Germany where one is least likely to ever come across an immigrant is that of the former GDR states. Brandenburg has around 160,000 people of foreing roots living there with more than half being EU citizens from other countries and a "mere" 10,000 from Syria and another 8,000 from all of Egypt, Algeria, Libya and Tunisia). Do the maths.

So it isn't so much that they're supporting Nazi's (if they are or not is really irrelevant, nothing of Germany's horrific past will return, that is a certainty) as they are supporting the position of limited immigration.

When no other party is making a meaningful attempt to stop this madness, what should those people do? Just throw their rifles in the field? No. They're going to throw their support behind those who would treat the immigration problem the way they want to see it handled. The only reason most people haven't switched over is because they're still naive enough to think that their "respectable" parties are going to come to their senses.
see above

BTW -- We've both been around here long enough to know that whole "he's a racist, Nazi, bigot" mishugas doesn't work on me, I only laugh at that silly ****, encourage you to call me it again, because it only makes the accuser look the fool.
I expressly stated not knowing whether you're a Nazi or not. I also stated (words to that effect) the predicament one gets into when lying down to sleep with dogs.
 
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