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    Tory Leadership Race Updates

    Tory leadership: Johnson tops first MPs' ballot - BBC News

    Boris Johnson wins the first round of voting- by more than double against his closest rival. Go Boris!

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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    What a damn fiasco... at this point assuming Boris takes this I am unsure anyone can secure a Brexit deal.
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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    What a damn fiasco... at this point assuming Boris takes this I am unsure anyone can secure a Brexit deal.
    Boris will.

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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    This is the Tory MP vote.

    The proof in the pudding will be presented when the pudding is served. That'll be when the membership gets to choose between the two remaining candidates.
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    It doesn't really matter who will be the British PM he won't stand for long with the way the British politics works, they all end up weeping in a sudden Downing street announcement.
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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    What a damn fiasco... at this point assuming Boris takes this I am unsure anyone can secure a Brexit deal.
    For convenience's sake, copying this (in its pertinent part for here) from the other thread:

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    ~.......................What BoJo is aware of however (I've pointed out that he's not stupid despite having the buffoon record) is that if he pursues a no-deal exit, he's going to face a no-confidence vote in parliament. Which the Tories will lose on account of not every Tory's loyalty to the party stretching that far. Many of those that voted down yesterday's motion are aware of plenty of future opportunities to scuttle a no-deal scenario and will, if push comes to shove in that manner, swallow the toad of general elections.

    IOW we're all no further than before in the sense that Boris is or will be just as hamstrung as Theresa was. I suspect that, should the Tories hoist him into the saddle, most will do it in the awareness of his being able to secure a deal that is only along the lines (IOW not much dissimilar) to the one we already have. Just that his charisma will assist him into spinning it thru parliament better than May was able to.

    Of course the ERG fraudsters won't share that view but they do not constitute a Tory majority.
    ....with my having bolded the part over what sort of deal seems probable.

    One need add that if Boris attempts to prorogue parliament to push anything thru without it (he's so far ducked that issue despite robust questioning), he'll be toast as much as the whole government will be.

    In his presentation of yesterday and the questioning that followed, he showed his past mastery at side-stepping. That may disgust many but is, in his case, not unwise. If you have no idea of what you're going to do, committing yourself to ANY sort of future action would be stupid. But that can cannot be kicked indefinitely.
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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    What a damn fiasco... at this point assuming Boris takes this I am unsure anyone can secure a Brexit deal.
    Boris will.
    Boris will become PM barring a major foot in mouth scenario and he will probably deliver the Canada+++ agreement that was offered by the EU some 2 years ago - it's how much he will stitch up Northern Ireland that remains the question.

    In years to come, when people ask how the whole of Eire was reunited, they will point to Brexit and then the not insignificant part Bojo played in both.
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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    If Boris Johnson becomes our prime minister, not that many of the other lot are much better... but God help us, I mean really, if this is what British Politics has come to... **** it really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If Boris Johnson becomes our prime minister, not that many of the other lot are much better... but God help us, I mean really, if this is what British Politics has come to... **** it really.
    Yeah. The collective cognitive dissonance is getting a bit much.

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    Re: Tory Leadership Race Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If Boris Johnson becomes our prime minister, not that many of the other lot are much better... but God help us, I mean really, if this is what British Politics has come to... **** it really.


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