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Infinite Chaos said:
First Raab is ejected by tactical voting, then Stewart and now Gove. We also have tactical moves by Brexit Party members and supporters to remove remain minded MP's by sneakily joining local community groups to push for deselection of rivals.
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Perhaps these types of tactical moves could be the only real way out of the seemingly never ending stalemate of Brexit?

Tactical, crafty, but hopefully fruitful in the long run.
 
Snazzy said:
Perhaps these types of tactical moves could be the only real way out of the seemingly never ending stalemate of Brexit?

Tactical, crafty, but hopefully fruitful in the long run.
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It is disgusting and we all know where they have gotten that idea...

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Snazzy said:
Perhaps these types of tactical moves could be the only real way out of the seemingly never ending stalemate of Brexit?

Tactical, crafty, but hopefully fruitful in the long run.
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As Chagos has said and as you see with BoJo when he ran away rather than face the consequences of promises he made over Heathrow's 5th runway - he's only after power.

The only benefit is that he and the hard Brexiteers will "own" Brexit and history will judge them for that. Not the Russian and Americans on this forum for whom he is a useful idiot.
 
Snazzy;1070234334 said:
a useful idiot I think you have summed him up perfectly here!
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Eh, ftfy both a useless idiot

Boris Johnson: police called to loud altercation at potential PM's home | Politics | The Guardian

The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.

Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”

Oh dear Boris, lol wtf
 
Sven Karma said:
Eh, ftfy both a useless idiot

Boris Johnson: police called to loud altercation at potential PM's home | Politics | The Guardian

The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.

Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”

Oh dear Boris, lol wtf
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Sounds pretty normal to me :mrgreen:

What I'd call a bit out of the ordinary is taping a neighbor's "domestic" to then sell it to a newspaper.
 
Chagos said:
Sounds pretty normal to me :mrgreen:

What I'd call a bit out of the ordinary is taping a neighbor's "domestic" to then sell it to a newspaper.
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Like Trump, the tabloids love Johnson. He's dumb, blonde, with big tits!
 
Chagos said:
Sounds pretty normal to me :mrgreen:

What I'd call a bit out of the ordinary is taping a neighbor's "domestic" to then sell it to a newspaper.
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I think the Guardian doesn't pay for stories like this, and now everyone has a smartphone then recording a neighbour - if they're making a late night racket loud enough to be recorded - is an ordinary enough feat.

It certainly sounds 'pretty normal' behaviour for Boris the middle-aged chancer neighbour recently separated from his wife and shacked up with hot young babe from the office.

But, alas, we are looking at the behaviour of Boris all of the above about to become Prime Minister Johnson and it's not a good look, especially bearing in mind the way he's studiously minimised his exposure up till now. There will only be so many hustings and TV debates he cannot turn up for and if he's as flakey as this now, how's he going to last the course? Just like last time.

Also the Mark Field episode happening at the same time doesn't help him. People like to compare Johnson to Trump, but Trump doesn't drink, so no red wine, no story.

This is the guy who last year suggested building a bridge from Britain to Ireland, the feasibility of which makes Trump's border wall look a piece of piss.

Neither of them seems the brightest star in the firmament but either Boris Johnson's father or little brother would make a less worse job of becoming/being PM.

Flashy animal going round the paddock before the unicorn race, once again blew up on entering the stalls.

Never thought it possible till now, but what a glorious Groundhog Day might well await us with Jeremy Hunt as PM, aka Theresa May v1.5, with new children and random insult generator but exact same moron robot package underneath.
 
Sven Karma said:
I think the Guardian doesn't pay for stories like this, and now everyone has a smartphone then recording a neighbour - if they're making a late night racket loud enough to be recorded - is an ordinary enough feat.

It certainly sounds 'pretty normal' behaviour for Boris the middle-aged chancer neighbour recently separated from his wife and shacked up with hot young babe from the office.

But, alas, we are looking at the behaviour of Boris all of the above about to become Prime Minister Johnson and it's not a good look, especially bearing in mind the way he's studiously minimised his exposure up till now. There will only be so many hustings and TV debates he cannot turn up for and if he's as flakey as this now, how's he going to last the course? Just like last time.

Also the Mark Field episode happening at the same time doesn't help him. People like to compare Johnson to Trump, but Trump doesn't drink, so no red wine, no story.

This is the guy who last year suggested building a bridge from Britain to Ireland, the feasibility of which makes Trump's border wall look a piece of piss.

Neither of them seems the brightest star in the firmament but either Boris Johnson's father or little brother would make a less worse job of becoming/being PM.

Flashy animal going round the paddock before the unicorn race, once again blew up on entering the stalls.

Never thought it possible till now, but what a glorious Groundhog Day might well await us with Jeremy Hunt as PM, aka Theresa May v1.5, with new children and random insult generator but exact same moron robot package underneath.
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Bah, I've seen Boris as being what he is for so long to not have needed any of this.

What's the bet though that his fan crowd won't be bothered at all, probably holding it to have been a great way of asserting himself. I mean even I get miffed when some office babe thinks she can fool around with my laptop, just because I'm shacked up with her.

That's MY Tinder account, gawddammit.:lamo:lamo:lamo

But yeah, irony aside, all of it very much in keeping with his known antics.
 
Chagos said:
Bah, I've seen Boris as being what he is for so long to not have needed any of this.

What's the bet though that his fan crowd won't be bothered at all, probably holding it to have been a great way of asserting himself. I mean even I get miffed when some office babe thinks she can fool around with my laptop, just because I'm shacked up with her.

That's MY Tinder account, gawddammit.:lamo:lamo:lamo

But yeah, irony aside, all of it very much in keeping with his known antics.
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'Falling on own sword' being the most significant one. Jeremy Hunt is already emphasizing the importance of appearing for all media debates. He's a moron, but he's put in the hard yards. Johnson's toast, 'cos he's an empty barrel making loadsa noise (mucho ruido, pocas nueces) but with enough occasional self-awareness to know that when push comes to shove he's just Walter Mitty playing Winston Churchill.
 
Sven Karma said:
I think the Guardian doesn't pay for stories like this, and now everyone has a smartphone then recording a neighbour - if they're making a late night racket loud enough to be recorded - is an ordinary enough feat.

It certainly sounds 'pretty normal' behaviour for Boris the middle-aged chancer neighbour recently separated from his wife and shacked up with hot young babe from the office.

But, alas, we are looking at the behaviour of Boris all of the above about to become Prime Minister Johnson and it's not a good look, especially bearing in mind the way he's studiously minimised his exposure up till now. There will only be so many hustings and TV debates he cannot turn up for and if he's as flakey as this now, how's he going to last the course? Just like last time.

Also the Mark Field episode happening at the same time doesn't help him. People like to compare Johnson to Trump, but Trump doesn't drink, so no red wine, no story.

This is the guy who last year suggested building a bridge from Britain to Ireland, the feasibility of which makes Trump's border wall look a piece of piss.

Neither of them seems the brightest star in the firmament but either Boris Johnson's father or little brother would make a less worse job of becoming/being PM.

Flashy animal going round the paddock before the unicorn race, once again blew up on entering the stalls.

Never thought it possible till now, but what a glorious Groundhog Day might well await us with Jeremy Hunt as PM, aka Theresa May v1.5, with new children and random insult generator but exact same moron robot package underneath.
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The older Conservative members will ignore whatever behaviour he shows because he promises them Brexit this year. The Brexit party 5th column that has joined ;local Conservative party groups to deselect Remain or neutral MPs just want one thing. They don't care.

Jeremy Hunt as the alternative though - I despair.
 


He states while dodging questions about last night's incident that he delivers on his promises..... like when he promised to lie down in front of bulldozers with those protesting Heathrow proposed extra runway?

If you listen in the background - Brexiteers are booing Johnson being asked tough questions about his conduct. Brexit at any cost it seems.
 
Infinite Chaos said:


He states while dodging questions about last night's incident that he delivers on his promises..... like when he promised to lie down in front of bulldozers with those protesting Heathrow proposed extra runway?

If you listen in the background - Brexiteers are booing Johnson being asked tough questions about his conduct. Brexit at any cost it seems.
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He's another con man like Trump. You've got bumpy days ahead.
 
Rogue Valley said:
He's another con man like Trump. You've got bumpy days ahead.
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Well, he may be going down well with the unthinking among the Conservatives but everyone else in the electorate has seen just how shifty he is. This weekend has really highlighted that he is evasive to the core even to some of his supporters.
 
Infinite Chaos said:


He states while dodging questions about last night's incident that he delivers on his promises..... like when he promised to lie down in front of bulldozers with those protesting Heathrow proposed extra runway?

If you listen in the background - Brexiteers are booing Johnson being asked tough questions about his conduct. Brexit at any cost it seems.
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Why do people even care about the police being called to his flat by some neighbor who didnt like him? Is this some sort of "gotcha" thing that's important?
 
PoS said:
Why do people even care about the police being called to his flat by some neighbor who didnt like him? Is this some sort of "gotcha" thing that's important?
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If it were as simple as that Johnson's answers in that video would not have been so embarrassingly evasive; he was being interviewed by a Tory/Brexiteer journalist so that was friendly questioning on the subject. The episode is also typical of a huge number of his past misdemeanours (Darius Guppy tape e.g.).
 
Sven Karma said:
If it were as simple as that Johnson's answers in that video would not have been so embarrassingly evasive; he was being interviewed by a Tory/Brexiteer journalist so that was friendly questioning on the subject. The episode is also typical of a huge number of his past misdemeanours (Darius Guppy tape e.g.).
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That whole incident is a big nothingburger. Boris is right to be dismissive of it.
 
PoS said:
That whole incident is a big nothingburger. Boris is right to be dismissive of it.
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Au contraire. Tory grandee Sir Malcolm Rifkind told BBC Radio 5 Live: "If you are a candidate to be prime minister and the police have been called to your house - fairly or unfairly - the fact is there was a police visit. You don't just say 'no comment' ... That implies you may have something you don't want to disclose."

Boris Johnson: ‘Lack of judgement’ over police incident says Sir Malcolm Rifkind - The Scotsman
 
The Guardian view on Boris Johnson: a question of character

One answer, from his former editor Max Hastings, is that “I’m not sure he’s capable of caring for any human being other than himself.” His record in office, too, is one of carelessness and self-promotion. As mayor, he was careless with public money, backing the doomed garden bridge which cost taxpayers £43m. As foreign secretary, he was careless with Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe’s fate; Iran used his remarks to haul her back to court. Again and again – as a journalist, MP and Brexit’s cheerleader – he was and seems utterly careless about the truth, appearing committed only to whatever advances his prospects.
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Americans now have the misfortune of having a callous and narcissistic personality in the Oval Office. Caveat emptor.
 
Since Boris Johnson's wife has chucked him out of the family home and now his girlfriend has told him to get out of her flat, we are basically talking about having a homeless guy as Prime Minister. Except most Big Issue sellers would probably do the job better.
 
Sven Karma said:
Since Boris Johnson's wife has chucked him out of the family home and now his girlfriend has told him to get out of her flat, we are basically talking about having a homeless guy as Prime Minister.
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Are there no beds in 10 Downing St? :doh

If people are condemning him for not commenting on what happened in his flat, then UK citizens are even sillier than I thought. The cops said there was nothing, so there is literally, nothing to consider, except maybe jailing that nosy neighbor who made a false emergency call.
 
PoS said:
Are there no beds in 10 Downing St? :doh

If people are condemning him for not commenting on what happened in his flat, then UK citizens are even sillier than I thought. The cops said there was nothing, so there is literally, nothing to consider, except maybe jailing that nosy neighbor who made a false emergency call.
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I appreciate facts aren't really your thing, but BoJo is not actually in residence at no.10 yet, and it doesn't seem likely Theresa will let him crash on the sofa meantime (especially after what happened to Ms. Symonds' one) so :doh right back at ya.

BoJo's obsession with keeping Gove off the final ballot may well come back to haunt him, Gove's cocaine shame might well have inhibited him from pursuing the matter in the way the less compromised Jeremy Hunt can.
 
Sven Karma said:
I appreciate facts aren't really your thing, but BoJo is not actually in residence at no.10 yet, and it doesn't seem likely Theresa will let him crash on the sofa meantime (especially after what happened to Ms. Symonds' one) so :doh right back at ya.
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You made a claim he would be a homeless PM, otherwise what was the point of even bringing that up... :roll:
 
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