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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The EU also owes the UK,
    already accounted for in the current deal or will be accounted for
    so this is a shrewd move by Boris-
    Nope
    it will force the EU bureaucrats to the bargaining table.
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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    More disrupting than the uncertainty of whether or the UK is going to leave? At least if it's without a trade deal, the market will be quick to price in the consequences, and the UK government can quickly see where the deficit lies and conclude new trade deals individually to make up for the losses. This uncertainty doesn't do anyone any good.
    Perhaps, but then who's to blame fir the uncertainty? Johnson's allies turned down the deal they had and keep voting to wait and hope for a better one.

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The EU also owes the UK, so this is a shrewd move by Boris- it will force the EU bureaucrats to the bargaining table.
    They were at the bargaining table. The deal was rejected.

    The question is whether the EU is willing to do it again. So far, they are not.

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    I think it is time for the Queen to step in and dissolve parliament and call new elections. Why? Boris and Co are planning a coup. They want the Queen to put parliament in recess until after Brexit date, to force a hard Brexit. By putting Parliament in recess, the new Conservative PM can avoid having a vote of no confidence against him/her and being forced into an election before October and Brexit....

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I think it is time for the Queen to step in and dissolve parliament and call new elections. Why? Boris and Co are planning a coup. They want the Queen to put parliament in recess until after Brexit date, to force a hard Brexit. By putting Parliament in recess, the new Conservative PM can avoid having a vote of no confidence against him/her and being forced into an election before October and Brexit....

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    As for the threat. It has been floated before and is idiotic and suicidal. It is basically a default and would mean that any future negotiation with the EU would be problematic.

    On top of that, any country outside the EU wanting a trade deal or treaty would think twice because if the UK is willing to screw over the EU, then what on earth are they not willing to do with them?

    And the EU can play that game as well..any country making a deal with the UK, will lose any trade deal with the EU... Not that the EU would do such a thing.

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    Dissolving Parliament? Is that within the Crowns power? What are the conditions for use of this maneuver?
    Well, a coup (prorogation of Parliament) would do nicely.
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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    Dissolving Parliament? Is that within the Crowns power? What are the conditions for use of this maneuver?
    Unfortunately it looks like she can't. One of the first things David Cameron and the Tories did in 2011 was to remove that ability...

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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    If you need to have matters explained to you, you profess your ignorance.

    Where that is a good approach of itself, it precludes you from seeing (or not seeing) anything at all.
    Just another Fletch gaslighting routine. Don't feed it, it only grows into something gassier.
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    Re: UKs Johnson threatens to withhold $50 billion Brexit payment

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    already accounted for in the current deal or will be accounted for NopeNope.
    I disagree. If Boris plays it tough then the EU ministers will bend over like they always do.

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