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Notre Dame: too symbolic to be an accident

Jak Fraam

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Monday, the first day of Holy Week before Easter, one of the greatest monuments of European history and architecture, Notre-Dame de Paris, caught fire and was badly devastated. The consequences of the fire can be compared to the destruction of the Palmyra monuments in Syria by militants of the Islamic State or the Taliban bombardments of Buddha statues in Afghanistan, because there are certain things that do not belong to a single nation, but they are part of the human heritage.
It should be noted that the cathedral survived the Hundred Years War, British rule, civil war and wars with the Huguenots, the Jacobins ... During the French Revolution, Robespierre threatened to destroy the cathedral. But after receiving compensation from the believing people, Notre-Dame was announced the Temple of Reason. During the Revolution in the building the French organized a food warehouse. The temple survived two world wars with almost no losses. At the end of the 20th century, the building was restored.

Now, Macron's time has arrived. The cathedral needs to be restored again. But the French authorities could not allocate the necessary resources - more than 150 million euros, they had less than 10 million. As always, it was necessary to ask the help of the Americans, who took the work in charge.
It seems that Monday even unbelieving French fell to their knees. All France considered that the fire in a place so well known and carefully kept fire confirmed that everything had happened without accident.
It's not a coincidence. God has just finally recalled his presence in this restless, greedy and belligerent world, and as if asking us, "Why do you need my temples if you don't need me? What do you believe besides new technologies and new territories? How did you transform France and all of Europe?
Fortunately, there is also a believing Christian part of France and Europe, who remembers that everything happens in the world under the Lord's permission. Such disasters remind people that they are crossing the forbidden "red lines" - such as Babylon and Sodom with Gomorrah.
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Therefore, whatever the versions of the ignition, the simplest conclusion is suggested. The tragedy was the sign of heaven that many contradictions have accumulated in Europe, especially in France.
In fact, all the madness that has happened in old Europe over the past decades was to end with catastrophes such as the rebellious demonstrations of "yellow vests" or the symbolic catastrophe carrying the cultural and historical symbol "Notre Dame ".
The Lord mercy endured for a long time. In fact, the endless protests of "yellow vests" and the passivity of irresponsible government were enough to provoke celestial wrath. It was enough for the illegitimate presence of French soldiers on the territory of sovereign Syria and their participation in the conflict. It was enough of the war in Libya, which was unleashed by NATO where France took an active part. For celestial anger, it was enough to continue the pretentious ambitions of Macron to reshape Europe after the next elections to the European Parliament in May. The Lord bore the betrayal of France, who knelt before the United States, neglecting her religious, family and historical values.
But patience is over. This incident was the sign of heaven that France understands where it was going.
 
But the French authorities could not allocate the necessary resources - more than 150 million euros, they had less than 10 million. As always, it was necessary to ask the help of the Americans, who took the work in charge.

I don't know where you got this bit of "info" from, but the total of "private funds" donated to the effort to rebuild the church is very close to one billion Euros!

Most of that coming from some very rich families (who are very obviously trying to buy-their-way into heaven ;^) ...

or celestial anger, it was enough to continue the pretentious ambitions of Macron to reshape Europe after the next elections to the European Parliament in May. The Lord bore the betrayal of France, who knelt before the United States, neglecting her religious, family and historical values.

But patience is over. This incident was the sign of heaven that France understands where it was going.

You've gone overboard like most "spiritualists" who think wrongly that all such events on earth are God-driven.

The fire was started mechanically by some device placed in the roof-top during some routine rebuilding procedure - as will come out soon after investigations are complete.

God has better things to do than start a fire in the Notre Dame Cathedral to punish the French people for their wayward ways ...
 
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I KNEW IT!!!!!

It has to be those damn yellowvestmuslimracistnazihomophobeextremerightchristianblackpriviledgeasiannationailist's...….I mean, they are always in the news stirring up trouble. :neutral:
 
I am going to be boring and say that maybe we should wait for the report of the ongoing investigation into what caused the fire.
 
I am going to be boring and say that maybe we should wait for the report of the ongoing investigation into what caused the fire.

That's crazy talk. ;)
 
I am going to be boring and say that maybe we should wait for the report of the ongoing investigation into what caused the fire.

Regardless of the outcome of the investigation - if it proves to be purely innocent, it will most certainly be dismissed by conspiracy theorists.

I saw a photo yesterday showing an apparent outline of Christ in the flames..... Delusions of grandeur or what?
 
Regardless of the outcome of the investigation - if it proves to be purely innocent, it will most certainly be dismissed by conspiracy theorists.

I saw a photo yesterday showing an apparent outline of Christ in the flames..... Delusions of grandeur or what?

It is true that conspiracy theorists are very reliable in this respect. They always find a conspiracy. Even the absence of a conspiracy is a conspiracy.
 
Regardless of the outcome of the investigation - if it proves to be purely innocent, it will most certainly be dismissed by conspiracy theorists.

I saw a photo yesterday showing an apparent outline of Christ in the flames..... Delusions of grandeur or what?

The cross above the altar miraculously survived, though no mention is made of the firefighters who stopped that bit of roof above it collapsing in...
 
The cross above the altar miraculously survived, though no mention is made of the firefighters who stopped that bit of roof above it collapsing in...

Nothing like a bit of Divine Intervention in the form of a firefighter!
 
The cross above the altar miraculously survived, though no mention is made of the firefighters who stopped that bit of roof above it collapsing in...

I wouldn't call it miraculous since the melting point of gold is higher than temperatures likely reached by the fire.
 
I wouldn't call it miraculous since the melting point of gold is higher than temperatures likely reached by the fire.

His sarcasm is wasted on you hehe
 
It is funny reading liberals claiming that although hundreds of Catholic Churches have been vandalized just over the last year and many have been burned, liberals are apparently claiming God is protecting Notre Dame for which it is impossible that anyone could ever harm that cathedral - but God couldn't stop an accidental fire.

The French leftwing government immediately blamed workmen working on the restoration as the certain cause of the fire - even though no workmen were present that day. Lying is the #1 tactic of the leftwing apparently in France too.
 

I'm bettin' dollars to donuts you don't really want to know....But maybe I'm projecting, and in fact you do?

I got to reading that OP and thought "that's too much for daytime television."
 
Regardless of the outcome of the investigation - if it proves to be purely innocent, it will most certainly be dismissed by conspiracy theorists.

I saw a photo yesterday showing an apparent outline of Christ in the flames..... Delusions of grandeur or what?

No matter what the investigation learns, it is certain that it will be declared accidental by French government officials. Otherwise the government might have to do something and if declared an accident they don't have to do anything.
 
Monday, the first day of Holy Week before Easter, one of the greatest monuments of European history and architecture, Notre-Dame de Paris, caught fire and was badly devastated. The consequences of the fire can be compared to the destruction of the Palmyra monuments in Syria by militants of the Islamic State or the Taliban bombardments of Buddha statues in Afghanistan, because there are certain things that do not belong to a single nation, but they are part of the human heritage.

It should be noted that the cathedral survived the Hundred Years War, British rule, civil war and wars with the Huguenots, the Jacobins ... During the French Revolution, Robespierre threatened to destroy the cathedral. But after receiving compensation from the believing people, Notre-Dame was announced the Temple of Reason. During the Revolution in the building the French organized a food warehouse. The temple survived two world wars with almost no losses. At the end of the 20th century, the building was restored.

Now, Macron's time has arrived. The cathedral needs to be restored again. But the French authorities could not allocate the necessary resources - more than 150 million euros, they had less than 10 million. As always, it was necessary to ask the help of the Americans, who took the work in charge.
It seems that Monday even unbelieving French fell to their knees. All France considered that the fire in a place so well known and carefully kept fire confirmed that everything had happened without accident.

It's not a coincidence. God has just finally recalled his presence in this restless, greedy and belligerent world, and as if asking us, "Why do you need my temples if you don't need me? What do you believe besides new technologies and new territories? How did you transform France and all of Europe?
Fortunately, there is also a believing Christian part of France and Europe, who remembers that everything happens in the world under the Lord's permission. Such disasters remind people that they are crossing the forbidden "red lines" - such as Babylon and Sodom with Gomorrah.

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Therefore, whatever the versions of the ignition, the simplest conclusion is suggested. The tragedy was the sign of heaven that many contradictions have accumulated in Europe, especially in France.

In fact, all the madness that has happened in old Europe over the past decades was to end with catastrophes such as the rebellious demonstrations of "yellow vests" or the symbolic catastrophe carrying the cultural and historical symbol "Notre Dame ".

The Lord mercy endured for a long time. In fact, the endless protests of "yellow vests" and the passivity of irresponsible government were enough to provoke celestial wrath. It was enough for the illegitimate presence of French soldiers on the territory of sovereign Syria and their participation in the conflict. It was enough of the war in Libya, which was unleashed by NATO where France took an active part. For celestial anger, it was enough to continue the pretentious ambitions of Macron to reshape Europe after the next elections to the European Parliament in May. The Lord bore the betrayal of France, who knelt before the United States, neglecting her religious, family and historical values.

But patience is over. This incident was the sign of heaven that France understands where it was going.

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I KNEW IT!!!!!

It has to be those damn yellowvestmuslimracistnazihomophobeextremerightchristianblackpriviledgeasiannationailist's...….I mean, they are always in the news stirring up trouble. :neutral:

Yes they are. Just over the last year hundreds of Catholic Churches in France have been vandalized, many burned by arson, and the French government is currently demolishing almost every Catholic cathedral in France - but certainly no one - not one person - would ever, ever, ever dare hurt the tourist trap Notre Dame cathedral just because they wouldn't dare.

All the Muslims and anarchists posting their cheering the fire all are fake. If we know anything we know how much radical Muslims and anarchist atheists love the Catholic church. :roll:
 

No more than 5% of French are Catholic now. Muslims outnumber Catholics and the vast majority of French are atheists. If it ever is reopened, probably it will be a museum dedicated to attacking the history of the Catholic church while adding elements of Islam and other religions to the displays.

Predictably, the government currently is demolishing virtually every Catholic cathedral in France. Those still function as a Catholic church are being vandalized and burned. Notre Dame cathedral is just a tourist trap, nothing else. The act that the French government gives a damn about it won't last long past this news cycle. If the French government gave a damn it would not be demolishing all ancient Cathedrals claiming they are not worth bothering with and probably to end all the attacks, protests and riots around them. No one wants them and many want them destroyed.

But that probably is rational. If the old cathedrals are unusable and just a source of conflict, with the government nor anyone else willing to spend the money to restore or preserve them, why not demolish them? All of them are "works of art" in their own way and decades or centuries in the future they may be regret having destroyed them as they are history - just like towns and cities that demolish their historic district buildings sometimes regret it. But for now, few people care.
 
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The cross above the altar miraculously survived, though no mention is made of the firefighters who stopped that bit of roof above it collapsing in...

Considering that the melting point of gold is 1,948°F?

Eh, mebbe not so miraculous after all.
 
It is interesting reading some people posting the Catholic Church should have instead spent the money helping the poor instead of building Notre Dame - yet I don't read anyone claiming rather than spending a billion dollars restoring Notre Dame the billion dollars should be spent helping the poor now. There are no poor people in France now?

While the billion pledged REALLY be given? Anyone can make a pledge of a donation. That doesn't mean they'll actually give the money.
 
The Lord bore the betrayal of France, who knelt before the United States, neglecting her religious, family and historical values.
But patience is over. This incident was the sign of heaven that France understands where it was going.
If the lord wanted to give a sign, why did he burn down his own church? Why didnt he burn something like, the Louvre, or the Eiffel Tower instead?
 
It is funny reading liberals claiming that although hundreds of Catholic Churches have been vandalized just over the last year and many have been burned, liberals are apparently claiming God is protecting Notre Dame for which it is impossible that anyone could ever harm that cathedral - but God couldn't stop an accidental fire.

The French leftwing government immediately blamed workmen working on the restoration as the certain cause of the fire - even though no workmen were present that day. Lying is the #1 tactic of the leftwing apparently in France too.

According to the OP, God caused the fire.

But you've already made up your mind. It was Muslim terrorists, even if it wasn't Muslim terrorists.
 
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