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Putin´s side-kick Surkov: "Russia will not only expand politically or militarily; it will also expan

Putler´s side-kick Surkov (the real name daduev, he is a Chechen or Avar) : "Russia"´ll not only expand politically or militarily; it will also expand ideologically" should this Nazi&Koba bamboo - empire exist in 2019?

"Surkov sees Russia as an expansionist power. Of course, this is nothing new in "Russian" history. In the modern era, we’ve gotten used to this behavior, starting with Russia’s aggression in Georgia, its annexation of Crimea and invasion in eastern Ukraine, and its involvement in Syria. Moscow defines its sphere of influence broadly and isn’t afraid to make bold moves.

But Surkov’s point is different. Russia will not only expand politically or militarily; it will also expand ideologically. "

We Do Far More than Meddle in Foreign Elections, Top Putin Aide Taunts
 
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Since Russia is a Democracy, are we threatened and, if so, by what?
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DaveFagan said:
Since Russia is a Democracy, are we threatened and, if so, by what?
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Russia hasn't been a democracy since 2000.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
Russia hasn't been a democracy since 2000.
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Putin got more votes than his opponent.
Trump got fewr votes than his opponent.
Case closed.
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DaveFagan said:
Putin got more votes than his opponent.
Trump got fewr votes than his opponent.
Case closed.
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Saddam got more votes.
Kim got more vote.
Hitler got more votes.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
Russia hasn't been a democracy since 2000.
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no, it has never been a democracy , so called Yeltsin´s family was (is) smaller version of ozero. en empire can not be a democratic one
 
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Fledermaus said:
Saddam got more votes.
Kim got more vote.
Hitler got more votes.
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Koba (Stalin) said "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes." its a perfect formula for all totalitarian regimes
 
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Litwin said:
no, it has never been a democracy , so called Yeltsin´s family was (is) smaller version of ozero. en empire can not be a democratic one
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I disagree. Western democracy NGO's in Russia at the time judged the Yeltsin elections (1991/1996) to be relatively fair (considering the first times doing this in a very long time). The 2000 election was manipulated.

If Yeltsin had chosen Boris Nemtsov as his successor instead of Putin, the Russia of today would be very different.
 
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Just for once, Litwin has hit on something interesting which has some truth in it.

Surkov is part of a fairly popular strand of Russian thought with which I'm familiar. It's also associated with influential thinkers such as Dugin.

These thinkers, who I'll describe for convenience as nationalists, believe that Russia is a unique cultural, ethnic, geographical, and spiritual entity. They argue that throughout its history and in the various forms before the modern RF state, the Russian 'narod' has only prospered when it is vigorous and expanding. By contrast, when it is passive, it has withered and been attacked by hostile forces.

They believe that Russia needs to develop and protect its narod, and that this can only be achieved in the current world by an aggressive defence of its interests against the universalist imperialist culture of what we call the Atlanticist world.

So much more to say but any questions ......
 
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Litwin said:
no, it has never been a democracy , so called Yeltsin´s family was (is) smaller version of ozero. en empire can not be a democratic one
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Do you mean it is just like the USA?
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Westphalian said:
Surkov is part of a fairly popular strand of Russian thought with which I'm familiar.
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Vladislav Surkov is the ideologist in the Kremlin and is a very close aide and counselor to Vladimir Putin.

Surkov has Kremlin control of the Georgia and Ukraine portfolios. Russia's war in eastern Ukraine is conducted under his plenipotentiary powers and rigid oversight.
 
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Litwin said:
Putler´s side-kick Surkov (the real name daduev, he is a Chechen or Avar) : "Russia"´ll not only expand politically or militarily; it will also expand ideologically" should this Nazi&Koba bamboo - empire exist in 2019?

"Surkov sees Russia as an expansionist power. Of course, this is nothing new in "Russian" history. In the modern era, we’ve gotten used to this behavior, starting with Russia’s aggression in Georgia, its annexation of Crimea and invasion in eastern Ukraine, and its involvement in Syria. Moscow defines its sphere of influence broadly and isn’t afraid to make bold moves.

But Surkov’s point is different. Russia will not only expand politically or militarily; it will also expand ideologically. "

We Do Far More than Meddle in Foreign Elections, Top Putin Aide Taunts
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Putin has allied with China to develop Eurasia because Russia, China, and the EU share the same continental land mass and are forever linked geographically. For that reason they ae developing initiatives that will be of benefit to those that share Eurasia. When the "Belt and Road Initiative" is mentioned, think of Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System in the USA. A great success linking the US states. Created jobs, industries, distribution, and maximized commerce to the benefit of all the states involved. Russia provides 11 time zones of natural resources, EU had well developed industry, China has huge labor market and these factors acknowledge a symbiosis for mutual benefit. That is what the USA fears and why it attempts to portray as an enemy and a danger. Russia and China do present a huge threat to the USDollar denominated World economy because it has been so poorly managed by the USA Plutocrats. The citizens of the Eurasian landmass are natural allies, not natural enemies. The EU should remember that it was Russia that wiped out 6 of the 7 Germans armies during WWII and acknowledge that contribution to the salvation of the European Nations. Japan's location off the edge of the Eurasian landmass will cause the Japanese to pause and examine more closely their relationship with the USA. India can already see mutual benefits to the initiative. The USA sends Armies and NGOs all over the World. Russia and China send diplomats. That's the current reality. Personalities of leaders are not adequate metaphors to indict Nations. Keeristtt, in the USA we project a lying, narcissistic, philanderer as our metaphor. Look behind the screem! The USA fears this alliance and recreates the Cold War and is trying to every Military/Economic/Trade/Political/FalseFlagss measures to block what is likely an inevitable alliance.
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DaveFagan said:
That's the current reality.
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You wouldn't recognize reality with a map and a description.
 
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Fledermaus said:
Yeltsin was American?

No. You fail again.
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Yeltsin was bought and sold by the USA.

..-. ..-

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Rogue Valley said:
Vladislav Surkov is the ideologist in the Kremlin and is a very close aide and counselor to Vladimir Putin.

Surkov has Kremlin control of the Georgia and Ukraine portfolios. Russia's war in eastern Ukraine is conducted under his plenipotentiary powers and rigid oversight.
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What's your point?

It's not Russia's war. But the peoples of eastern Ukraine are part of the Russian narod, although Russia fully respects Ukrainian sovereignty which is why it rejected separatist requests for incorporation into Russia.

So it's complex. But the West should have realised this before they blundered in and deposed Yanukovych.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
I disagree. Western democracy NGO's in Russia at the time judged the Yeltsin elections (1991/1996) to be relatively fair (considering the first times doing this in a very long time). The 2000 election was manipulated.

If Yeltsin had chosen Boris Nemtsov as his successor instead of Putin, the Russia of today would be very different.
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Russia: Did Yeltsin Steal the 1996 Presidential Vote? - TIME US Meddling in 1996 Russian Elections in Support of Boris Yeltsin - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

its geography will never allow "russia" to be a democratic country
 
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Westphalian said:
What's your point?
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The point is that Vladislav Surkov directs the Kremlin's war in Ukraine for Vladimir Putin.

Any changes in LNR/DNR leadership, Russian military rank officers, and Russian offensives in eastern Ukraine have to be ordered/approved by Surkov.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
The point is that Vladislav Surkov directs the Kremlin's war in Ukraine for Vladimir Putin.

Any changes in LNR/DNR leadership, Russian military rank officers, and Russian offensives in eastern Ukraine have to be ordered/approved by Surkov.
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Yes ........ I believe that is so.


But the wider point is that western universalism is not universal, and it is this which has led the West into the justification and conduct of numerous wars over the last 30 years.
 
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Westphalian said:
Yes ........ I believe that is so.
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It is so indeed. Plenipotentiary Surkov frees Putin up to formulate other mischief.
 
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Rogue Valley said:
It is so indeed. Plenipotentiary Surkov frees Putin up to formulate other mischief.
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So your point is what - that Putin delegates?


This might be a revelation to you, but only a gullible consumer of western propaganda could think Putin takes all decisions.
 
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Westphalian said:
So your point is what - that Putin delegates?
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No. The overarching point is that this is a Russian invasion and not a civil war. If it truly was a civil war, why haven't the Russian speaking oblasts climbed aboard?

Sumy? Kharkiv? Dnipro? Zaporizhia? Mycolayiv, Odesa? Where are they in this supposed civil war? Fighting the invaders.

If this was just criminal acts by some eastern Ukrainians, this war would have been over in early 2014. It's a Russian invasion, planned, managed, and fed by the Kremlin.
 
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Litwin said:
no, it has never been a democracy , so called Yeltsin´s family was (is) smaller version of ozero. en empire can not be a democratic one
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Litwin:

So the Athenian Empire negated Athenian democracy and the British Empire negated British democracy? If so, what does that tell you about the American Empire which you are always calling upon to deliver you from the jaws of Mr Putin's Mongol-Russian hordes threatening you. You wish to trade one ideological and economic straight-jacket and security state for another one with better PR? Time for some more thought about what you want and how best to get it.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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Evilroddy said:
Litwin:

So the Athenian Empire negated Athenian democracy and the British Empire negated British democracy? If so, what does that tell you about the American Empire which you are always calling upon to deliver you from the jaws of Mr Putin's Mongol-Russian hordes threatening you. You wish to trade one ideological and economic straight-jacket and security state for another one with better PR? Time for some more thought about what you want and how best to get it.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
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1) Mongol ANTI - "Russian" hordes

2) threatening you. JUST ME? NOT YOU? not your political system ?
 
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