Destroying Ireland, Phase II Begins: 2040 Plan

truthatallcost said:

Derrrr....let's do math.

Simon Coveney says that half a million of the added population to Ireland in the next 20 years are going to be foreign born. He then lists the children of foreigners, when discussing who else is to be added, and talks of Irish growth dead last.

So let's estimate that each of the 500k foreigners has 1 child (they'll likely have much more than just 1): how much does that leave for Irish growth serenity. ZERO.

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Let us see how much the nonsense level comes too, these things are facts:

More than three-quarters (77.3%) of births were to Irish mothers, while a further 11.5% of births were to women of EU nationality.

There were 62,053 registered births in Ireland

There were 30,484 deaths registered in 2017

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So every year, if the level stays around the same, 31,500 extra people in Ireland a year, you will get a population growth of in excess of half a million.

Now let's just look at the number of births, 62,053 live births means the number of Irish born children last year was almost 48,000 Irish born children. Meaning about 14,000 children were foreign born, of which half were EU citizens.

So your bull crap about there being ZERO room for Irish growth is just that, total nonsense. Especially because about 2/3 of those foreigners are other EU and European citizens with an equal fertility number, the Irish will and will remain the vastly majority "nationality" in Ireland for now and for the foreseeable future. This whole 2040 nonsense is exactly that total and utter nonsense made up by people with nefarious intentions IMHO.

beefheart said:

Nothing you have posted in this idiotic thread has made sense, it is just hyperbolic rantings by you and evasion of simple questions.

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thats true, but sometimes he is quite funny ;o)

We should force this lazy drunken irish bastards to make more babies! Cannot be that we have to live without real Irishmen in near future because of their egoism!

truthatallcost said:

From non-Irish. The birthrate for Ireland has remained stagnant from 1996-2016, remaining at less than 2 children per Irish woman, or below replacement levels, for decades.

According to the census statistics office of Ireland, actual Irish people are 2nd to last on the growth charts measuring years 2011-2016. The #1 category for growth from 2011-2016, was something the Irish government terms 'Other (Incl Mixed Background)', which is a way of obscuring who or what these people actually are.
The 2nd highest growth category was Asians, which dwarfed the Irish growth rate.

Ethnicity - CSO - Central Statistics Office

Interestingly, despite obvious signs of demographics change in Ireland, it's government has now used the same figure of 82.2 to represent the white Irish share of the population for many years now, further evidence of obfuscation when coupled with the vague description of who the 'Other (Incl Mixed Background)' are.




Well, I can tell you who Ireland's leadership anticipates will comprise the 1 million figure from population growth in the Project 2040 Plan, even though it isn't stated in the official literature.

Tánaiste (Deputy Prime Minister) Simon Coveney, when asked about the UN's Global Migration Pact, said:

"We estimate over the next 20 years that the population of Ireland will certainly grow by an extra million people. Linked to that estimate is that half of that number won't have been born in Ireland. I think that will be a really good thing for Irish society, not but we do need to manage or carefully, so we don't allow the politics of migration to play a big part in Irish politics, because I think it pulls us in a dangerous direction."

Note: I'm relegated to using an audio recording of Coveney's words as a source, because NO IRISH MEDIA COMPANY BOTHERED TO PUBLISH THEM, AFTER HIS WORDS SURFACED. Perhaps this is the result of Leo Varadkhar paying the Irish press to only speak positively in regards to P2040? We'll never know, because transparency is clearly not at the heart of this agenda.




Coveney further stated that the 1 million figure of growth in the next 20 years would consist of foreigners (500k), their children (who knows how many), and the rest being Irish.

Now I'll wait for all those who scoffed at the OP to admit they were wrong. Go on... anybody man enough to admit error?

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I thought you would ignore 15 of the 20 years I asked you about and focus on the last five years.

https://www.tcd.ie/sociology/assets/pdf/Polish migration to Ireland - A literature review.pdf

The irony of the comments on the video you link - just proving there are Irish "white culture" morons just like there are "culture morons" in any country. Ireland has a huge history of emigration which is completely lost on those who bought into the infowars version of history.

truthatallcost said:

You're being ridiculous, as per your normal state. You've previously stated how catastrophic it is when your particular ethnic group feels motivated to leave Europe for a certain middle eastern country. You've also foamed at the mouth, like Pavlov's dog, while regurgitating the media's baloney about why they're leaving Europe for the mid east. Yet you yourself migrated to.... wait for it....another European country, which is judged as being more 'hostile' than the one you left! You've manufactured more baloney than Oscar Meyer at this point Chagos.

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and one might ask what the heck you are talking about here, were it not for the fact that past experience shows you to go all over the place like the proverbial demented hen anyway, the minute you cannot formulate any intelligent response.

Usually, as also seen here, by a comment as stupid as "if you want to protect your indoor cactus from anthrax, do not ever smear it with mayonnaise".

Showing here as well your absolute ignorance of ANY European country or, for that matter, whatever ethnic groups I belong to. .

truthatallcost said:

~.....................Now I'll wait for all those who scoffed at the OP to admit they were wrong. Go on... anybody man enough to admit error?

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I'll enlighten you here (once again) on what continuously escapes your comprehension.

Namely that your OPs are generally scoffed at by the simple expedience of coming from YOU.

Basically because anyone even remotely experienced with your past contributions has found that your offerings constitute utter absurdity most (if not all) of the time.

Even when they do not, as regularly seen, consist of distortions, misinformation and, often enough, downright lies.

truthatallcost said:

When you can formulate a question which pertains to the subject of my OP, I'll gladly answer them.

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In other words you have found yet another one of your habitual excuses to run from questions posed. Showing that you actually have no answer.

The irony here being that you probably consider this to be a particular clever move while any other observer cannot see it as anything other than pathetic and cowardly.

german hick said:

thats true, but sometimes he is quite funny ;o)

We should force this lazy drunken irish bastards to make more babies! Cannot be that we have to live without real Irishmen in near future because of their egoism!

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I'm planning to visit there this summer and, given half a chance, will do my best, inebriated or not, to contribute.:lol:

With an Irish great-grandfather I should be eligible, even where that will confuse the heck out of TAAC. Who in his habitual state of confusion born from ignorance holds me to be Jewish on account of my defending Israel's right of existence in the appropriate forum (and no, let's not go there any further).

Next thing he'll probably conclude that I'm a kosher Paddie.:lamo

truthatallcost said:

What's 'going away', is the common bonds which held the social fabric of Ireland together. Where oh where can we observe the results of a Western European country losing it's religion, and becoming 'progressive'? Oh, right next door as it turns out; England's Christian churches have become watered down, or just plain abandoned by the English, in favor of a 'progressive' shift in the culture. Guess what has filled the spiritual vacuum in England jet57? Islam. 5,200 Brits now convert to Islam per year, primarily white English women. 1/2 are atheists in the UK.

Church of England in decline, Islam fastest growing in UK: Survey - Times of India




Legal abortion is still new in Ireland. The abortion lobby will not stop seeking new laws and measures to further their agenda, until late term abortion is a 'right' of women, and the next step after that, as evidenced by the abortion lobby in the USA, is legalized infanticide. Give it time, this is how they operate.



Prove it then jet57. When did the EU state that commercial expansion in Ireland in the next 20 years is sufficient to accommodate a million new people?



As expected, you know very little about the subject you decided to comment on, which nevertheless didn't dissuade you from pretending to be an expert. Both Ireland and Scotland are nearly half the sq mile of North Carolina, respectively. And Scotland wasn't mentioned once in this entire thread.

As to what NYC has to do with Ireland, I haven't a clue.

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EU enlargement: keep the door open

Chagos said:

I'm planning to visit there this summer and, given half a chance, will do my best, inebriated or not, to contribute.:lol:

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:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

beefheart said:

Nothing you have posted in this idiotic thread has made sense, it is just hyperbolic rantings by you and evasion of simple questions.

The Irish public voted for abortion, overwhelmingly.

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Then you didn't read the thread beef. I posted the Deputy PM's words on Ireland's future migration, as well as the current trend of Irish people having the lowest growth rate of any group in Ireland.
What have you posted? Your travel plans?

Peter King said:

Let us see how much the nonsense level comes too, these things are facts:



So every year, if the level stays around the same, 31,500 extra people in Ireland a year, you will get a population growth of in excess of half a million.

Now let's just look at the number of births, 62,053 live births means the number of Irish born children last year was almost 48,000 Irish born children. Meaning about 14,000 children were foreign born, of which half were EU citizens.

So your bull crap about there being ZERO room for Irish growth is just that, total nonsense. Especially because about 2/3 of those foreigners are other EU and European citizens with an equal fertility number, the Irish will and will remain the vastly majority "nationality" in Ireland for now and for the foreseeable future. This whole 2040 nonsense is exactly that total and utter nonsense made up by people with nefarious intentions IMHO.

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It's customary that we provide a link for what we're quoting here Peter.

Infinite Chaos said:

I thought you would ignore 15 of the 20 years I asked you about and focus on the last five years.

https://www.tcd.ie/sociology/assets/pdf/Polish migration to Ireland - A literature review.pdf

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Copy and paste the portion of this study which you want me to read. It's lazy to merely link a 28 page article, and expect me to know which part I'm supposed to read, in order to ascertain your point.

The irony of the comments on the video you link - just proving there are Irish "white culture" morons just like there are "culture morons" in any country.

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Yes, considering your reliance and blind faith upon your government, I'm not surprised to learn you were clueless about the existence of Irish people who desire their country remain Irish.

Ireland has a huge history of emigration which is completely lost on those who bought into the infowars version of history.

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Piggybacking on the Australian girl's comment. Nice IC, I'm sure she doesn't mind letting you cheat on your test :lol:

Chagos said:

and one might ask what the heck you are talking about here, were it not for the fact that past experience shows you to go all over the place like the proverbial demented hen anyway, the minute you cannot formulate any intelligent response.

Usually, as also seen here, by a comment as stupid as "if you want to protect your indoor cactus from anthrax, do not ever smear it with mayonnaise".

Showing here as well your absolute ignorance of ANY European country or, for that matter, whatever ethnic groups I belong to. .

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Chagos said:

I'll enlighten you here (once again) on what continuously escapes your comprehension.

Namely that your OPs are generally scoffed at by the simple expedience of coming from YOU.

Basically because anyone even remotely experienced with your past contributions has found that your offerings constitute utter absurdity most (if not all) of the time.

Even when they do not, as regularly seen, consist of distortions, misinformation and, often enough, downright lies.

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Chagos said:

In other words you have found yet another one of your habitual excuses to run from questions posed. Showing that you actually have no answer.

The irony here being that you probably consider this to be a particular clever move while any other observer cannot see it as anything other than pathetic and cowardly.

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Hopefully this will expel you from my thread, as it once did in person :mrgreen:

truthatallcost said:

It's customary that we provide a link for what we're quoting here Peter.

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It is also customary to write something realistically IMHO, because you wrote stuff in that post I responded to that was just nonsense, made up numbers with no possible link whatsoever because it was fantasy figure time.

But as you did not try google with one of my literal quotes from the Irish RTE which got their numbers from the Irish statistics office.

Birth rate continues to fall as maternal age rises

truthatallcost said:

When you can formulate a question which pertains to the subject of my OP, I'll gladly answer them.

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What a thrill it is to be able to submit a question to the Trump/QAnon brain trust.

I would call your attention to a previously asked question referencing your OP: What exactly is "recreational abortion"? I would be most appreciative of a full description of the term and when and where you witnessed "recreational abortion" in Ireland.

Chagos said:

I'm planning to visit there this summer and, given half a chance, will do my best, inebriated or not, to contribute.:lol:

With an Irish great-grandfather I should be eligible, even where that will confuse the heck out of TAAC. Who in his habitual state of confusion born from ignorance holds me to be Jewish on account of my defending Israel's right of existence in the appropriate forum (and no, let's not go there any further).

Next thing he'll probably conclude that I'm a kosher Paddie.:lamo

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Feckin Oy! A Kosher Paddy. Mazel Sláinte! :wink2:

From personal experience I'd recommend Galway, the women there are special; and Clifden while you are up that way; Killarney; Doolin on a good night; Cork (the women are beautiful and wise); Thurles and Dublin. Caution, Dublin ladies don't take any ****.

In Dublin, P-Macs. If you are in Cork Sin É is phenonmenal. Get there early everynight. In Galway, I can't remember the name of the place but with your back to the bus station looking up Eire Square take a right at Richardson's on the corner and it'll be the first pub on your right.

There is no doubt that truthatallcost can provide you with more and better information as he obviously knows Ireland and is only interested in truth.

Risky Thicket said:

Feckin Oy! A Kosher Paddy. Mazel Sláinte! :wink2:

From personal experience I'd recommend Galway, the women there are special; and Clifden while you are up that way; Killarney; Doolin on a good night; Cork (the women are beautiful and wise); Thurles and Dublin. Caution, Dublin ladies don't take any ****.

In Dublin, P-Macs. If you are in Cork Sin É is phenonmenal. Get there early everynight. In Galway, I can't remember the name of the place but with your back to the bus station looking up Eire Square take a right at Richardson's on the corner and it'll be the first pub on your right.

There is no doubt that truthatallcost can provide you with more and better information as he obviously knows Ireland and is only interested in truth.

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Clifden, so nice. My family is from nearby, a very small town called Cornamona, right on the shores of Lough Corrib.

Great part of the island. I need to go back....

Risky Thicket said:

What a thrill it is to be able to submit a question to the Trump/QAnon brain trust.

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Lol, well I do believe you have significant Irish roots as opposed to some who've commented on this thread. Each ethnic group has their own particular characteristics of speech, and ours happens to include the ability to be the most clever smartass in the room.

I would call your attention to a previously asked question referencing your OP: What exactly is "recreational abortion"? I would be most appreciative of a full description of the term and when and where you witnessed "recreational abortion" in Ireland.

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Its been discussed previously. Recreational abortion is the practice of women who irresponsibly rely on abortion in lieu of practicing safe sex. The Irish aren't as depraved as many in America yet, but its certainly a possibility. Consider this American movement, which is called 'Shout Your Abortion', designed for women to take to social media in order to brag about how many abortions they've had, and the fact that they're PROUD to kill their children. This is pure depravity and latent narcissisism disguised as a 'rights movement' at this point.

ShoutYourAbortion - Wikipedia

Shout Your Abortions brainchild, Lindy West (the one with several chins)



There were 50 million abortions last year, less than 1% for medical reasons. Recreational abortion is a very real phenomenon in the world today.

beefheart said:

Clifden, so nice. My family is from nearby, a very small town called Cornamona, right on the shores of Lough Corrib.

Great part of the island. I need to go back....

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Clifden blows me away. I don't know how to describe it: small, friendly, lively and not, accessible, beautiful, welcoming. Clifden, at least the last time I was there, was less screwed over by tourists. It is an amazing place. But, then, where in Ireland is it not amazing?

Everywhere you go you are afraid to leave because you think the next place cannot possibly be as unique and wonderful. And on the way to your next destination you stop somewhere you've never heard of and you love it and you are afraid to leave thinking the next village or town can't possibly be as grand. And then it is and you do that over and over again.

I've been doing that for 36 years and I just can't get enough. Maybe it is because it's my blood, Nobber and Limerick, but that doesn't matter.

Truthatallcost can provide us with more information.:roll:

beefheart said:

Clifden, so nice. My family is from nearby, a very small town called Cornamona, right on the shores of Lough Corrib.

Great part of the island. I need to go back....

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Risky Thicket said:

Clifden blows me away. I don't know how to describe it: small, friendly, lively and not, accessible, beautiful, welcoming. Clifden, at least the last time I was there, was less screwed over by tourists. It is an amazing place. But, then, where in Ireland is it not amazing?

Everywhere you go you are afraid to leave because you think the next place cannot possibly be as unique and wonderful. And on the way to your next destination you stop somewhere you've never heard of and you love it and you are afraid to leave thinking the next village or town can't possibly be as grand. And then it is and you do that over and over again.

I've been doing that for 36 years and I just can't get enough. Maybe it is because it's my blood, Nobber and Limerick, but that doesn't matter.

Truthatallcost can provide us with more information.:roll:

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Let's take our Travel with Rick Steves convo to the appropriate place guys. This isn't the Conde Nast Hot Spots for Tourists forum.

truthatallcost said:

Let's take our Travel with Rick Steves convo to the appropriate place guys. This isn't the Conde Nast Hot Spots for Tourists forum.

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Hey, just because you haven't been to Ireland and know precious little about it is no reason for you to intervene on our conversation.

You seem jealous that you started a thread and you know so little...and so many others know much more.

Risky Thicket said:

Clifden blows me away. I don't know how to describe it: small, friendly, lively and not, accessible, beautiful, welcoming. Clifden, at least the last time I was there, was less screwed over by tourists. It is an amazing place. But, then, where in Ireland is it not amazing?

Everywhere you go you are afraid to leave because you think the next place cannot possibly be as unique and wonderful. And on the way to your next destination you stop somewhere you've never heard of and you love it and you are afraid to leave thinking the next village or town can't possibly be as grand. And then it is and you do that over and over again.

I've been doing that for 36 years and I just can't get enough. Maybe it is because it's my blood, Nobber and Limerick, but that doesn't matter.

Truthatallcost can provide us with more information.:roll:

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I liked the Maam's Cross area as well, the graveyard in Clonbur has my great grandparents and great great, and who knows what else.

truthatallcost said:

Lol, well I do believe you have significant Irish roots as opposed to some who've commented on this thread. Each ethnic group has their own particular characteristics of speech, and ours happens to include the ability to be the most clever smartass in the room.



Its been discussed previously. Recreational abortion is the practice of women who irresponsibly rely on abortion in lieu of practicing safe sex. The Irish aren't as depraved as many in America yet, but its certainly a possibility. Consider this American movement, which is called 'Shout Your Abortion', designed for women to take to social media in order to brag about how many abortions they've had, and the fact that they're PROUD to kill their children. This is pure depravity and latent narcissisism disguised as a 'rights movement' at this point.

ShoutYourAbortion - Wikipedia

Shout Your Abortions brainchild, Lindy West (the one with several chins)

There were 50 million abortions last year, less than 1% for medical reasons. Recreational abortion is a very real phenomenon in the world today.

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More bull crap about abortion I see. Your assertion that it recreational is utter bull.

Your explanation of what recreational abortion is is utter tripe on top of being total bull ****.

Recreational means something you do something to enjoy yourself when you are off work. Abortions are never something enjoyable, your claim of there being recreational abortion is total nonsense.

truthatallcost said:

For all of the skeptics out there, I'd offer this- consider the size of Ireland, in comparison with the USA. It is tiny. Flooding the Emerald Isle with 1,000,000 outsiders will destroy the unique culture, and place of the Irish people.

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Oppressive laws favoring one culture over others is what destroys culture. And these usually come in the form of a dominant culture viewing itself as vulnerable and wanting to "protect" itself from an influx of other cultures.

Open immigration and unrestricted assimilation improves culture. Every time. Full stop. My culture is much better with pizza and tacos than it would have been without them.

Trying to prevent immigration and assimilation accomplishes two things: It stunts the growth of your culture by sheltering it from the beauty and ingenuity present in other cultures, and it directly damages your culture by sowing hatred, distrust, and paranoia.

truthatallcost said:

Another poster on DP created a thread almost a year ago about the legalization of recreational abortion in Ireland, which was the first major phase of the plan to destroy traditional Ireland, and erode it's culture. I replied to the thread with this warning:



Little did I know at the time, that the plan for Phase II of destroying Ireland was already in the works. The Irish government bills Project 2040 as,

"The objective of Project Ireland 2040 is to provide a comprehensive social, economic and cultural infrastructure for all our people to flourish, so that together we can create a better society."

This is to be done by spending €116 billion to ready Ireland for some unnamed economic goal. On it's surface, it sounds like a vague plan to improve infrastructure. But Project 2040's true intent is to drive up the population of Ireland by over 1 million people:

"Project Ireland 2040 anticipates that an extra one million people will live in Ireland by 2040, with a further two-thirds of a million working here. To accommodate this, it sets out plans to build an additional half a million homes.

Where are these "extra one million people" going to come from? Ireland now (since 2018) offers Irish women abortion on demand, which will further lower the 1.92 children on average that ethnic Irish women give birth to, in their life time. So you see, Prime Sinister Leo Varadkhar is anticipating replacing all those aborted Irish babies, with members of the third world. Varadkhar was the driving force behind both the 2018 abortion bill, and Project 2040.

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For all of the skeptics out there, I'd offer this- consider the size of Ireland, in comparison with the USA. It is tiny. Flooding the Emerald Isle with 1,000,000 outsiders will destroy the unique culture, and place of the Irish people.

Project 2040 must be stopped, and Leo Varadkhar must be exposed as the poison that he is. He should be sent packing back to Mumbai.

Project Ireland 2040: How it hopes to tackle 7 key questions for the next two decades

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Yes, 1 million extra people will live in Ireland, most of the born there and some coming from other EU countries/the UK to work there. It is not a plan to add a million new immigrants as you seem to imply with you comment "project 2040 must be stopped and Varadkhar sent to Mumbai. Which is ignorant and a tad racially discriminatory to boot. He was born in Ireland, is the Taoiseach of Ireland and there is no need for him to go back to Mumbai. He was born in Dublin and he is an Irishman. To suggest he should go back to Mumbai is idiotic because he did not come from there.

Ireland knows it's population is growing, they are a population where only 13% is over the age of 65, 21.5% is between 0 and 14, 11.8% is between 15 and 24 and a massive 43.2% is aged 25 to 54.

Ireland Demographics Profile 2018

Meaning the population will grow massively because with a population growth of 1.15%, the population will grow with a minimum of 25.3% and that is just the 22 times 1.15% projected growth, not taking into consideration that this number will grow because the number will be 30% or so due to those people now growing up in the next 22 years will also produce more children. So let us take 25.3% growth from the current number of people living in Ireland. That would approximately 1.2 million extra people on the Emerald island.

So making plans for housing, teaching, employing, providing healthcare, extra police, etc. etc. etc. is not only necessary, IT IS SMART PLANNING!!!! To make this into something sinister and evil/poison/destroying Ireland is just plain ignorant and really showing your total lack of knowledge of what is of smart governing.